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Old 10-07-2010, 09:28 PM
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Ok, so I've been playing drums for about 2 years now almost. I started out with these superrr thin and light sticks.. They were horrible for me, dropped em constantly. Then I got 5Bs and they were cool. Size was good, however I found them to be a little heavy (I do a lot of fast paced drumming and complicated fills, so I need lightness and speed.) Im currently using 7As and I love their wieght. They're a litttttle thin, but I can hold on to them atleast haha. Now, im not too farmiliar with stick types. Is there one with light wieght like the 7As but a little thicker?(no thicker than 5B's thickness though) Id like to try something like that. Thanks guys!
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:33 PM
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5A is a great compromise between power and weight.
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:49 PM
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I had a similar predicament. Someone on this forum recommended Vater fatback 3A. Diameter is between a 5A and 5B with a shoter taper. Tried 'em and love 'em. I find Vater's consistancy is great stick to stick too.
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:56 PM
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Great size for me is .550--vic firth 85A. Try them. Great sticks, awesome feel too. I have some of the AJ american jazz firth sticks too and those can be 5B diameter with a long taper so they feel super light. Keep trying sticks until you find your choice. I always try different sticks. they all sound different and feel different.

You may also want to try maple sticks? Ive heard they are lighter then hickory.
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:59 PM
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Ok, so I've been playing drums for about 2 years now almost. I started out with these superrr thin and light sticks.. They were horrible for me, dropped em constantly. Then I got 5Bs and they were cool. Size was good, however I found them to be a little heavy (I do a lot of fast paced drumming and complicated fills, so I need lightness and speed.) Im currently using 7As and I love their wieght. They're a litttttle thin, but I can hold on to them atleast haha. Now, im not too farmiliar with stick types. Is there one with light wieght like the 7As but a little thicker?(no thicker than 5B's thickness though) Id like to try something like that. Thanks guys!

Try using a maple stick, lighter.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:02 PM
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I do a lot of fast paced drumming and complicated fills, so I need lightness and speed.
http://www.vicfirth.com/product/buyn...php?button=SJM
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:07 PM
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I second the notion of using a maple stick. I happily used the Vic Firth SD9 for many years when I wanted a fatter and lighter stick.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:08 PM
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Just a thought, i switched to 5B's and I feel like I am faster than when I played with 747's. The larger stick changed my fulcrum point where i hold them and made speed easier to obtain to my surprise. Do you have a teacher or someone who can look at where your hands are on the stick? speed does not come from stick size, more so from proper technique.
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:40 AM
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Regal Tip Maple 8A's are great sticks.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:13 AM
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Keep you're 7A's and get some grip tape. Wrap them suckers up for better grip, as well as a little weight at the butt end. Try it out.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:15 AM
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5A is a great compromise between power and weight.
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Yup, 5A is your stick, and mine too.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:52 PM
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Keep you're 7A's and get some grip tape. Wrap them suckers up for better grip, as well as a little weight at the butt end. Try it out.
it seems like at that point wouldnt you be better off just getting the 5A's
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Old 11-19-2010, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Stick question.

I personally prefer the Vic Firth 55A's. They are halfway between 5A's and 5B's in thickness.
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Old 11-20-2010, 03:49 AM
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Regal tip 5A's (wide)- thickness close to most 5B's, but seem lighter to me. Love them.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:29 AM
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+1 for 5A's.

I have a similar story to TFitting:

I used to use 7A's like you, until about 15 years ago I got some lessons that improved my technique. As I practiced and better technique emerged, I found the 7A's were now too light. I changed to 5A's then, and still playing them now. Faster than I used to be too :)

Just a thought...
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: Stick question.

All great suggestions. If you like the diameter of 5B sticks, the maple suggestion may be the way to go. The SD9 is a great stick but Vic Firth also has models with different tips, too. My favorites are the SD9 and SD2 Bolero. Check the website.

Another stick that's pretty cool is the Vic Firth Akira Jimbo stick- it's a 5A (.565 diameter), with a coating that gets sticky as it warms up.
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Old 11-22-2010, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: Stick question.

7A sticks...I never liked the tone it extracted from the drums, not enough weight for the job IMO. They sound thin. I use them when I'm forced to play ultra quiet, that's it.

The thicker the stick, the better tones it extracts from the drum, JMO.
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Old 11-22-2010, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Stick question.

If lighter sticks with bigger diameters are your thing, definitely try maple. Also consider getting a larger stick with a longer taper - this will make the stick "feel" lighter.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: Stick question.

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+1 for 5A's.

I have a similar story to TFitting:

I used to use 7A's like you, until about 15 years ago I got some lessons that improved my technique. As I practiced and better technique emerged, I found the 7A's were now too light. I changed to 5A's then, and still playing them now. Faster than I used to be too :)

Just a thought...
Oh man i coulnd't imagine a stick too light. I use 7A's and am thinking about trying some 8A's
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: Stick question.

Ditto on Maple. Whatever size you get you'll notice the difference in weight.
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Old 11-29-2010, 11:14 AM
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Practice with your 5A's, and surely your 5's will feel like 7's.
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Old 11-29-2010, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: Stick question.

My usual stick size is 5A.
When I'm practicing with my band I use 2B's. Then when I'm performing at a gig, I switch over to my 5A's.
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:18 PM
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7A sticks...I never liked the tone it extracted from the drums, not enough weight for the job IMO. They sound thin. I use them when I'm forced to play ultra quiet, that's it.

The thicker the stick, the better tones it extracts from the drum, JMO.
I used to feel the same way, Larry - 5As all the way.

These days I only use Billy Stewart Zildjian sticks, the lightest 7As I could find. I find the weight of sticks makes me hit the drum differently - if you use 7As and straight after using 5As, it will seem thin but if you use them for a while your ear/body does seem to adjust. Mine did, anyway. Still, if went back to playing rock I'd also go back to 5As, for sure.
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:45 PM
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As 5A is the most common stick you really should try them first. It's strange that you've gone from 7A to 5B and missed them out.

Wouldn't it be nice if we started the drum stick numbering convention from scratch. It's a complete puzzle to a beginner.

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Old 12-06-2010, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Stick question.

Vater Sugar Maple sticks but warning: they are not as strong as normal sticks (wood begins with a H but cant remember the rest..) so may have the buy sticks more oftens. However I love the 5A size but the weight of 7' so they are perfect for me!
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Stick question.

Regal Tip makes a W or wide series. 5BW is just a bit fatter than a 5B. I bought a Jazz series W which is about a 7A but a little fatter.
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Old 12-11-2010, 03:47 AM
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what about a carbostick... carbon fibre stick?
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Old 12-11-2010, 08:29 PM
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check this link out:http://www.bopworks.net/
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Old 12-11-2010, 09:45 PM
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Bopworks are some of the best sticks out on the market IMO. All are usually shorter and thinner than today's stick, and made of hickory. They feel, sound, and last much better than any other stick I've owned or played, though some hickory Pro-Marks I tried were pretty nice - the 747's I believe.
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