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Old 09-10-2010, 11:22 AM
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I have a Vater Vintage Bomber beater that I love. However, while I rotate it regularly to even out the wear the fluff is starting to flatten out.

I could pick at the flattened bits to fluff them up more again but I'm wondering if anyone else has dealt with this issue and might have some tips ...
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Old 09-10-2010, 11:43 AM
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I'm picturing a little afro-pick in the beater sticking up on the side that doesn't hit the head. Whenever you have to fluff it out, the pick is right there!
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Old 09-10-2010, 01:22 PM
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LOL ... introducing the new Barbie Afro Pick!
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Dip it in polyester resin, that'll take care of the problem... fluffy will be ready to ROCK!

No more fluffin' the beater between songs.
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Old 09-10-2010, 03:26 PM
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Awww Les *pout*

Been there, done that with rock. I'm looking to gaze in browner pastures now - and I love my fluffy beater. I woulda thought that at least one of you practical he-men with a backyard shed would have some clever solution to expend the beater's life ...
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Old 09-11-2010, 01:03 AM
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* facepalm*

All hope is lost ...
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Bo joked about an afro pick but I think that really might do it...

You can probably pick one up at a hair supply store that sells ethnic hair products (you have aboriginals in AU right?)

Something like this ought to do it:

http://www.ulta.com/ulta/browse/prod...LAID=202390681

Even better than that would be a pet brush with wide teeth.

http://www.bicwarehouse.com/pet-groo...tm_medium=Base

Use LIGHT quick strokes, you're fluffing it, not removing a topcoat. It won't grow back. I saw an old boss use the pet brush method to fluff up an Elmo costume. Best job I ever had...
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:42 AM
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Bo joked about an afro pick but I think that really might do it...

You can probably pick one up at a hair supply store that sells ethnic hair products (you have aboriginals in AU right?)

Something like this ought to do it:

http://www.ulta.com/ulta/browse/prod...LAID=202390681

Even better than that would be a pet brush with wide teeth.

http://www.bicwarehouse.com/pet-groo...tm_medium=Base

Use LIGHT quick strokes, you're fluffing it, not removing a topcoat. It won't grow back. I saw an old boss use the pet brush method to fluff up an Elmo costume. Best job I ever had...
Hey Red, whaddaya mean it won't grow back? It can't be dead! It just CAN'T! *sniffle*

That actually makes sense. Ta. It just needs to not be too wide- or too close-toothed.

There's a wood beater underneath the fluff, which is weird. I would have thought having a felt layer underneath would help its longegevity.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:48 AM
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I was going to say Viagra. Perhaps I was thinking of a different fluffy beater...
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For suede shoes and jackets on flat spots I would use an emery board,don't know if it would go deep enough but might be worth a try.
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Take the beater off and throw it in the dryer for about 20 minutes..Fabric Softener not necessary
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Old 09-11-2010, 08:19 PM
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All afro-pick jokes aside....I think by the time you've considered what to do and done it, I think if you were clocking your time, you would have spent more money doing that rather than just having bought a new one! These beaters can't be more than $20 (US). I would suspect you make almost as much (or more) for one hour at your regular job.

Get on the phone and order one. Be brave, your heart must go on.... ;)
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Old 09-12-2010, 01:43 AM
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DED and Brady ... you guys have fluffy beaters? Is this some kind of Neanderthal thing?? Wow, I must have lead a sheltered life ...

Eames, I think a brush or comb would work better than emery board, which I think might just wear it off ... ?

GD, you can't take the fluffy head off. A comment about its construction. I'm guess it's a wood or hard cork beater underneath. Then you have something like a lambs' wool jacket on over the top of it, and it looks like it's seamless.

Bo, the beater costs A$40. It's less than my hourly rate, yep, but money isn't the issue for me - it's waste. I always try to squeeze every last ounce of life out of stuff I own because I don't want to be a stereotypical wasteful Westerner who takes the amazing good fortune I have to be born in one of the lucky countries for granted. I guess that's exactly what I am, but I try not to be ... so replacing it is a last resort.

Have a look at the t-shirt I'm wearing in my avatar and you'll see what I mean :)


Another issue, for the chemical buffs here. Some of the the plastic-y stuff from my black dot kick drum head has worked its way into the fibres of the fluff that's caused clumping like chewing gum in your hair. Do you think metho would dissolve it?

My next kick drum head won't have a spot on it. Like I say, I love the fluffy beater - more of an organic boom sound than a thud, which to my ear works best with a very small kick drum (16").
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In that case tie it to your car bumper and drag it around the block a few times.
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:41 PM
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Or maybe goad it to pick a fight with a big guy at a seedy bar? :-P

In the end I went with Bo's & Red's suggestion (although I baulked at leaving an afro comb in the fluff).

First I used metho to loosen the clumping from the black dot on the skin and picked off the worst of it with my fingers. Then I found an old hair brush little knobs on the end of the bristles that I don't use any more to pick up the flattened fluff. That seems to be as good as it gets.

Thanks to those with sensible suggestions ... and to the bloody comedians :)
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Hey I was serious about the dryer!!!!!
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Shampoo and blow dry should do the trick. But before that, dissolve the gunk w/ a petro based solvent. Goof off, kerosene, petrol, should work, but if the fluffy beater fibers are petro based, then don't use a petro based solvent.
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Old 09-13-2010, 01:54 AM
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GD, the spin dryer would work if the beater was removable. Not sure about the Mafioso treatment :)

Larry, shampoo and blow dry without conditioner is a recipe for unsightly split ends. Then I'd have to get them cut off and my fluffy beater would become less fluffy.

I wasn't game to use turps to remove the gunk, just in case it dissolved some important glue. Hang on, do you US guys use the term "turps"? Mineral turpentine.
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I think its time to face reality Polly... its a damn beater, its not gonna change its ways.

If its just about the sound, some 'fluffy stuff' on the bass drum head will get you there and you can use a regular beater.

You can easily rotate/replace material on a head as opposed to trying to prevent the inevitable. Cork, wool, etc. different sounds ⇒ fast.

Your beater by its nature is going to compress and become just another wad.
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Old 09-14-2010, 04:52 AM
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Thanks for the useful thread link, Les. I missed that one. I'd agree with Chonson that the Vater Vintage Bomber isn't very durable. What I've done will help it retain its unique qualities a little but that's all.

DMC's idea of having a velcro attachment is very good. That way you don't have to replace the whole beater, just the attachment. I don't like to burn through consumable fast because it makes me feel wasteful.
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O.K. Pollyanna, You can come clean with us,I think what happened was that when you were a child you had to give up your sheepskin like all other kids.(I know how you down unders are about your" Shee Shee's") It all probably started innocently enough,you were trying to sort the beater out and left it on the coffee table,and you sat down in front of the T.V. with a hot cup of tea and biscuits and started watching cartoons or an old movie and the next thing you knew you had the beater pressed to the side of your cheek,reminding you of an idyllic time in your childhood .Go ahead and get the Sheepskin,we won't tell anybody,I promise.
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I'd try spraying it with a mist of water and apply a light shampoo. Give it a good rub and towel dry. Apply another mist and towel dry followed by a heavier mist then blow dry.
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:25 AM
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Haha Eames, I was never lame enough to need a sheepskin. I had a litle cotton pillow ... nice idea about cuddling up to the beater, although it's synthetic fluff.

Wy, shampooing without conditioner?? Shame!

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I would take it to a dry cleaners that provides a full line of clothing care services. They restore flattened sheepskin, rugs, coats, etc. This might just need a good washing and drying to put the hair fibers back to their original condition.
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Polly,
If you can't get that little fro happening again, try this: grab a couple of the biggest cymbal felts you can find and replace the hard felt beater head on an old beater w/ the cymbal felts (I also added a few rubber (neoprene) rings cut from an old sound-off tom pad). The rusty beater weight you see in the pic is only there because the arm didn't have a washer, but it does help w/ the feel. It's as quiet at the bomber, but imo it gives a better sound because there's no solid core hitting as w/ the bomber. The ratty looking thing I've posted worked so well I haven't bothered to make a nicer one.
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I think it's time to get modern Pol, how bout picking up one of these?

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DMC, interesting idea. Noted! The weird old woman who runs the local dry cleaning shop is going to give me strange (r than usual) looks :)

Big Foot, very inventive! My only concern is I'm guessing the sound would be more definite with the felt beater than the Bomber because of the smaller surface area touching the drum surface. Once the Vater dies I'll definitely try it out, though, maybe with a woolly coat ...

Red, I'm looking to go retro rather than modern. I used standard rock beaters for a long time but I'm now playing a lounge-y style (as per my band's website link in my sig). So my focus is on softening the impact because I used to be a pretty heavy thumper and I still don't feel confident feathering the bass drum.
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It's been days. You have yet to try something? I think my method will work. It's just a beater. Give the damned thing a wash.
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I thought you were kidding :) Earlier on I said I'd sorted out the problem:

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First I used metho to loosen the clumping from the black dot on the skin and picked off the worst of it with my fingers. Then I found an old hair brush little knobs on the end of the bristles that I don't use any more to pick up the flattened fluff. That seems to be as good as it gets.
But now there's plenty of contingency should it need more treatment ...

BTW, curious about what the web pages look like on your phone? Do you see the images or only text?
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Pol please bear with me. My body is screaming. It is a rough time. :)
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Pol please bear with me. My body is screaming. It is a rough time. :)
No probs, Wy. Take it easy ... my fingers are a mess so I might take a breather too and get on the pad. My revitalised Madam Fluffy gets a chance to strut her stuff tomorrow night :)
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Hey Polly, Your woolly coat idea got me thinking (some pain involved w/ that). So I dug out my daughters old Barbie stuff and I found the answer to your woes! There's a matching skirt that might work for those more formal gigs.
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Andy, it isn't the $$, it's more about making the most of what I have and avoiding waste.

Bigfoot, an inspiring solution - how well the cardigan hangs on while I'm doing Tomas Haaake-like blasts to Summertime and Cry me a River is another matter ...
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DMC, interesting idea. Noted! The weird old woman who runs the local dry cleaning shop is going to give me strange (r than usual) looks :)

Big Foot, very inventive! My only concern is I'm guessing the sound would be more definite with the felt beater than the Bomber because of the smaller surface area touching the drum surface. Once the Vater dies I'll definitely try it out, though, maybe with a woolly coat ...

Red, I'm looking to go retro rather than modern. I used standard rock beaters for a long time but I'm now playing a lounge-y style (as per my band's website link in my sig). So my focus is on softening the impact because I used to be a pretty heavy thumper and I still don't feel confident feathering the bass drum.
Hope it works. If you detached the beater from the shaft, they could probably just toss it in with the next load of dry cleaning or wool laundry.

Is it really made of sheepskin?
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Hope it works. If you detached the beater from the shaft, they could probably just toss it in with the next load of dry cleaning or wool laundry.

Is it really made of sheepskin?
Thanks DMC - it worked out well last night. Mme Fluffbomb lives!

There's no seam or anything that looks detachable (except maybe under the covering). It's very much like lamb's wool but it's actually synthetic http://www.vater.com/media/reviews/BomberReview.pdf. Ideal for playing laid back music with a small kick drum because it allows for easier feathering and emphasises the bottom end.

When it really wears I'll take the cover off and see if I can make something to replace it. I like that cymbal felt idea too (complete with woolly jumper :)
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