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Old 08-21-2010, 11:17 AM
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Default What do you think of the demon drive double pedal?

I have seen a number of threads on the pearl fourm where people have had problems with the demon drive (i just saw one where a guy was talking about a screw stripping when trying to covert the pedal from short board to long board. Here is the thread. http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/sh...ht=demon+drive

I have read that some poeple have had problems with the pedal clamping to a bass drum hoop. One said that it made the back of the pedal raise off the floor and he was not able to get that fixed. I also read that the pedal clamp has a hard time clamping to thicker bass drum hoops. Anyone had any problems with this?

These are just some of the issues that i have seen where people have had problems with the demon drive.

I have also seen reviews and threads where people have said that they have not had really any problems with the demon drive.

I am thinking about buying the demon drive double pedal and i just want to know if you that own the double pedal demon drive are happy with yours? Has pearl fixed all the problems with this double pedal so that if i buy one now it will be working great? This pedal is not cheep and i dont want to spend a lot of money on it just to have all kinds of problems and have to send it back.

So all you owners of this pedal please tell me what you think of it.
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Old 08-21-2010, 02:55 PM
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We have experienced none of these issues. My son uses a Sonor and a Tama kit with no problems attaching to the bass drum hoop. He also gigs regularly an attaches to a huge variety of donor kits.
Only think I can think of is the user complaining of this doesnít know to raise the front of his kick to level with the back.

A striped screw is also likely a user issue not a design issue. They likely strip screws on other equipment as well through little or to much torque.

However he didnít like the stock beaters and we swapped out to the optional pearl wood beaters. He loves these but they ate through a super kick 2 in a week. Installed a new SK2 and a Kevlar double patch and itís been fine for 6 or 8 months.


No other issues at all.
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Old 08-21-2010, 04:51 PM
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So all you owners of this pedal please tell me what you think of it.
I gave you my thoughts in your first thread on the topic: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ht=demon+drive

Why do we need yet another thread on the same thing?
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:47 AM
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My advice.... GET IT!!! I had it since it came out and loved every second of it - except 3 months after I bought it for $800 they dropped the price to $650. My playing got a whole lot smoother and faster. I'd pay $800 for it again.

I have had a minor problem with the heal of the pedal lifting off the ground, but only 1/64" if that. Not noticeable at all when you play.
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:39 PM
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I think it's a waste of money IMO. I have tried a couple of them they were all the same. It would smooth and easy to push down to a certain point. About the last inch before the beater hit the head is where the pedal stopped. From this point you have to put more leg into it. Nothing smooth or fast about that. Yeah Pearl came up with a kool looking pedal and gave it a badass name..but really it's not gonna make you play any better. I think the Eliminator is still by far a better product than the Demon Drive.

You wanna develop pedal speed try using a old Ludwig speed king. I personally cannot get that style of pedal moving but I've seen a few drummers that could and you put them on any pedal and nothing hindered their playing. It's the drummer that rules the pedal. I honestly cannot justify 500-600 for a double pedal. I have used Axis pedals and they are a strong pedal and quick/smooth, Pick up a used one you can't go wrong. I mean if you have the cash for a Demon Drive go for it if thats what you want. But I personally would not even use it if they even gave it to me.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:42 PM
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I have seen a number of threads on the pearl fourm where people have had problems with the demon drive .......

.....(i just saw one where a guy was talking about a screw stripping when trying to covert the pedal from short board to long board. > 1 below <

...I have read that some people have had problems with the pedal clamping to a bass drum hoop and lifting.> 2 below <

..... I also read that the pedal clamp has a hard time clamping to thicker bass drum hoops. Anyone had any problems with this? > 3 below <

....So all you owners of this pedal please tell me what you think of it.
1) If the guy put in 3 of the 4 screws tight then tried to force in the 4th at a bad angle - maybe so - no problem with mine.

2) pedal lifts (a little) if hoop adjustment is not correct before tightening.

3) No hoop problem, the thickness adjustment is there - use it.

There are so many adjustments - if you spend the time to test ALL the positions - you will find the PERFECT feel for you.

The quad beater from pearl works great with the Demons.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:45 PM
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I think it's a waste of money IMO. I have tried a couple of them they were all the same. It would smooth and easy to push down to a certain point. About the last inch before the beater hit the head is where the pedal stopped. ....
Sure you could set it up like that >> where it does not hit the drum head << but why would you do that????
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:51 PM
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My advice.... GET IT!!! I had it since it came out and loved every second of it - except 3 months after I bought it for $800 they dropped the price to $650. My playing got a whole lot smoother and faster. I'd pay $800 for it again.

I have had a minor problem with the heal of the pedal lifting off the ground, but only 1/64" if that. Not noticeable at all when you play.
And now it's $530...a nice drop in price.
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Old 09-23-2010, 04:01 PM
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And now it's $530...a nice drop in price.
Try 5 Star Drum Shop >> Dales Drum Shop, Harrisburg PA (on ebay also) they just dropped their prices too
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Old 09-24-2010, 12:06 AM
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I think it's a waste of money IMO. I have tried a couple of them they were all the same. It would smooth and easy to push down to a certain point. About the last inch before the beater hit the head is where the pedal stopped. From this point you have to put more leg into it. Nothing smooth or fast about that.
That sounds more like a set up issue than a pedal issue to me. The pedal works just fine, if it stopped before the head for you, then I'm calling user error.

Trust me, the beater hits the head........if it doesn't, then it's a mystery to me why I keep hearing the deep resonant thump of the kick drum each time I put my foot down on the DD.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:22 AM
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I haven't had any problems with mine thus far. (I've owned one for a solid 8 months).

What I liked about it was not that is was was a direct drive or long board or any of that. What I liked was the adjustability of the pedal. I spent about an hour tweaking the settings and was able to find the perfect settings for my feet.

The one thing I'm not a fan of is the beaters though...

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Old 09-24-2010, 05:28 AM
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The one thing I'm not a fan of is the beaters though...
Agreed......as per my post in the linked thread, I swapped mine out for quad beaters. I much prefer the feel of a little more weight higher up on the pedal.

I don't think we're alone either......looks like a few people are getting rid of the stock ones.
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:50 AM
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Sure you could set it up like that >> where it does not hit the drum head << but why would you do that????
It's not that it's set up like that. From the beginning of the stroke all the way to the impact of the head is not smooth. 92% of the stroke is smooth the last 8% of it you have to put the effort in it. I don't like it, and it was everyone I ever tried.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:01 PM
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Very disappointed with this pedal and the Pearl Company and will never buy another Pearl product again.An older drummer friend of mine asked me to come over and try out the Demon that he just bought and tell me what i thought about it because he knew that i played lots of double bass and used a DW 9002.I tried it and thought that it was pretty smooth,but not worth the money.He told me he didn't want it because double bass wasn't for him and he would give me a good deal if i wanted to buy it,so i tried it out for a while and decided i would buy it because it was a pretty good deal and i could always use another double pedal and it did feel pretty smooth.I used it for a couple weeks and one of the screws on the drive shaft attaching to the pedal striped out when i was setting up for a show !! I couldn't believe it and called Pearl for some support seeing that the pedal was only a couple months old and was told that because i was not the original purchaser that they could not do anything for me ! ! ! I told them that i had used and still own Ludwig,Yamaha,Tama,Axis,Jaques Cappelle,and DW pedals over the last 30 years and never had any screws strip on any of those pedals.He told me that i should play those pedals instead after i said to him,so you don't stand behind your product even when it is pretty clear that the product itself is defective ? For those who think i overtightened and did it myself then why didn't i strip any other screws on any other pedals in the the last 30 years ? ? I think it has to do with the fact that the material they use for the driveshaft is cheap plain and simple.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:28 PM
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I think... I would rather buy trick or axis. and I have. both.
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Very disappointed with this pedal and the Pearl Company and will never buy another Pearl product again.An older drummer friend of mine asked me to come over and try out the Demon that he just bought and tell me what i thought about it because he knew that i played lots of double bass and used a DW 9002.I tried it and thought that it was pretty smooth,but not worth the money.He told me he didn't want it because double bass wasn't for him and he would give me a good deal if i wanted to buy it,so i tried it out for a while and decided i would buy it because it was a pretty good deal and i could always use another double pedal and it did feel pretty smooth.I used it for a couple weeks and one of the screws on the drive shaft attaching to the pedal striped out when i was setting up for a show !! I couldn't believe it and called Pearl for some support seeing that the pedal was only a couple months old and was told that because i was not the original purchaser that they could not do anything for me ! ! ! I told them that i had used and still own Ludwig,Yamaha,Tama,Axis,Jaques Cappelle,and DW pedals over the last 30 years and never had any screws strip on any of those pedals.He told me that i should play those pedals instead after i said to him,so you don't stand behind your product even when it is pretty clear that the product itself is defective ? For those who think i overtightened and did it myself then why didn't i strip any other screws on any other pedals in the the last 30 years ? ? I think it has to do with the fact that the material they use for the driveshaft is cheap plain and simple.
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I'll keep you posted, but so far, so good.

Been very happy with mine, but I've only had them several months.....time will tell in the durability stakes, I guess.
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DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THIS CHEAPLY MADE JUNK.
I have way over 10 pedals, the pearl demon drive is very well made.

I do not agree that its cheaply made.
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DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THIS CHEAPLY MADE JUNK.
you work for Tama don't you....

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Have you tried it out? And I don't mean in-store, I mean actually tinkered around with it for a few hours on your kit.

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I think it has to do with the fact that the material they use for the driveshaft is cheap plain and simple.

I would say the threads on the length adjustment of the Z LINK is crap, like most all other pedals connecting shafts. PEARLS no different, they're right in there with crap.
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I think it has to do with the fact that the material they use for the driveshaft is cheap plain and simple.

I would say the threads on the length adjustment of the Z LINK is crap, like most all other pedals connecting shafts. PEARLS no different, they're right in there with crap.
The thing that ALMOST nobody knows is that no matter what the manufacturer says, with these kind of connecting shafts you'll never have the same amount of movement on both sides of connecting shaft UNLESS (for example let's say we have a master and a slave pedal) the shafts of a master and a slave pedal are parallel. That's pretty much the position in which you can't play so we're screwed. With the kind of transmition that's used in connecting a slave pedal with master you'll always have the loss in motion because:
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2) you have 2 more ball bearings
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Oh, when will I get a second bass drum :/
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I think it has to do with the fact that the material they use for the driveshaft is cheap plain and simple.

I would say the threads on the length adjustment of the Z LINK is crap, like most all other pedals connecting shafts. PEARLS no different, they're right in there with crap.
Well I cannot say anything about the Z Link since I have always used 2 bass drums and 2 single pedals.

Having the ability to tune 2 BD's to different pitches makes a world of difference in sound.
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THIS CASE MUST BE SOLVED!
Well I have to say, I went to the store and they were kind enough to lend me the double demon for a couple of days to see if I liked it. I had put some posts up regarding its pros and cons and got some good advice so I wanted to check them out. I currently own Eliminators and do like them so i thought the the next step up with Pearl with the Demons would be nice.
Anyways got them home and wow they look great pretty cool lots of options to tinker with although took a long time to get right the way I like them but no big deal, ok so the feel, they felt great smooth although right off the bat I didn't like the beaters they came with, not enough weight. After getting used to them I thought they were a nice product but in Canada here $650 plus, I though what a rip!!!!!
Like I said I was probably just used to the Eliminators but i did give these a fair shot after the 2 days I probably played them for about 5 hrs. Didn't have a problem with the durability, they seemed solid but you can go get brand new Eliminators for half the price. If Pearl wants to make these thing for the masses then why the hell do these things cost almost $700 bucks.
So from my opinion WAY WAY WAY overrated due to the price.

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I checked some of these out the other day at the local music store that i somewhat endorse. Played for about 15 minutes, made some adjustments, then played for another 30 to 40. Pretty nice pedals, lots of adjustment, like everyone else the beaters aren't to great. All in all nice, good playing pedal. Def. dont like them any better then my 9002 ecspecially for the kind of outrageous price. Thanks for listening and i must say its nice to be affiliated with the music store and get to try all the new equipment out although i almost always stick with the old shit i have.
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:25 PM
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These Demons really have garnered a lot of attention haven't they...

But I don't think they warrant their price. They are very nice to play, but at double the price of the Eliminator (at least here in South Africa) I wouldn't come near them. And I don't their look. They are ugly.
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