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Old 08-02-2010, 08:51 PM
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I want to try out a Vintage Emporer on my COB Superphonic.Is the Vintage Emporer the same as Bonham used or did he use a standard Emporer?
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:06 PM
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When I got my complete set of vintage emps for my kit, the salesman did say they were different. Not sure how different though. I put 'em on the kit and away I go....they sound great.

If it's vintage, I would think it's slightly thinner, since long ago everything used to be somewhat smaller (look at the vintage cymbals, they're much thinner then their contemporary counterparts).

But I'm sure your Supra will sound great. The whole "playing" bit is another issue, eh? ;)
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:53 PM
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When I got my complete set of vintage emps for my kit, the salesman did say they were different. Not sure how different though. I put 'em on the kit and away I go....they sound great.

If it's vintage, I would think it's slightly thinner, since long ago everything used to be somewhat smaller (look at the vintage cymbals, they're much thinner then their contemporary counterparts).

But I'm sure your Supra will sound great. The whole "playing" bit is another issue, eh? ;)
I think Remo's website says they're two plies of 7.5 mil rather than 7 mil Mylar... it also says it's bright, rather than dark compared to regular ones.

Never played on either so I can't compare myself, although I'm more than certain there's members here who have. I'm sort of curious what the difference in sound is too.
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:23 PM
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I think Remo's website says they're two plies of 7.5 mil rather than 7 mil Mylar... it also says it's bright, rather than dark compared to regular ones.

Never played on either so I can't compare myself, although I'm more than certain there's members here who have. I'm sort of curious what the difference in sound is too.
Ah, must be thicker then!

Actually, I just put on a regular emperor on my other snare and I seriously cannot tell the difference.
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:09 PM
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I have Vintage Emperors on all tom batters, and a 'new' Coated Emperor on my snare, because they didn't have a VE when I went to the store. The VE is a tiny bit thicker as posted. Also, the coating is over smooth white plies, so it's a bit warmer. Also, they look to be a brighter white because of the white underneath the coating, even though they have the same coating as the 'new' Coated Emperors. A great head!
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Old 08-03-2010, 12:38 AM
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I want to try out a Vintage Emporer on my COB Superphonic.Is the Vintage Emporer the same as Bonham used or did he use a standard Emporer?
Back when Bonham was playing, they didn't make a "vintage" line. According to his Wikipedia entry, they were simply coated Emperors. However, today's vintage Emperors may sound more like 60's/70's Emperors. Couldn't tell you, I was busy learning how to walk and use the potty back then...
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Old 08-03-2010, 12:43 PM
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My kid recently played a (very nice Gretsch) backline kit with VEs on the toms, sounded great, very Bonham-y. Not the sound we ordinarily go for, but nice nonetheless.

Also, take Remo's bright/warm descriptions with a very large grain of salt.
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:16 AM
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Bonham played black dots. Remo Controlled Sound clear heads.
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:41 AM
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Bonham played black dots. Remo Controlled Sound clear heads.
Only on the Vistalites. On the maple kits he used coated emps.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:00 PM
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Bonham played black dots. Remo Controlled Sound clear heads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mrNjz_U0ZM
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:29 PM
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I have Vintage Emperors on my toms and snare. Before this I played regular coated Emperors, so I have a pretty good idea of the difference. They are a little more controlled than regular Emperors, but that is not very noticeable. What you will notice is the deeper punch and the added durability. They are absolutely the best heads that I have ever played.

I can get deeper sounds out of my toms than I could with regular Emperors, but they are still lively heads, not like Pinstripes with tape or anything like that. I have large toms and tune fairly tight, much like Bonham, for the full volume of the head and I never lose that deep punch.

You will not be disappointed either on the snare or the toms.
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