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Old 06-28-2010, 06:07 AM
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Hello everyone, My name is Preston Hadley. I am new to this forum. We do not spam, so no worry, personally i dislike spammers. I have been drumming for 10 years now. I have played for several years not knowing the incredible power, response and attack that Direct Driven pedals offered.
I know as well as many of you do that the Tama Iron Cobra Pedal remains one of the
dominating forces in drumming technology. Im proud to present Stomp Drive, a company
that retro-fits traditional chain-driven drum pedals with Direct Drive Systems. Our
first and upcoming product featured is The Stomp Drive (Iron Cobra Power-Glide)
Direct Drive System *Patent Pending*. We do not resale Iron Cobra Pedals, we
have developed our retro-fit product designed to attach to your existing Iron Cobra
Power-Glide Pedal. You will have the choice of either The single or double. The single will be for our single pedal players, and of course the double is for our double pedal players.
We have these both currently in stock.
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Single : $49.95 + Shipping & Handling(For All), Tax(Indiana Only)
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These high quality direct drive links are 100% U.S. made and 100% CNC machined out
of aircraft grade billet aluminum for strength. These have an applied black anodized hard coat Type III, very tough surface finish, around 70 RC.







The Stomp Drive (Iron Cobra Power-Glide) Direct Drive System*Patent Pending*,
is a 3 segment solid aluminum link between the pedal axis and the foot board. The
link is assembled with 2 bearings, giving you better control over power, attack, and
response. The Stomp Drive Direct Drive System allows no slack between the pedal
beater and the foot board. This product replaces your traditional Iron Cobra chains.

Features
  • Solid Aluminum Link
  • Bearing Driven (ABEC 7)Class baring
  • Black Anodized Hard Coat Type III
  • Mounted with original Pedal screws
The Stomp Drive Direct Drive link is a great alternative to more expensive pedals
that are already Directly-driven, such as the Pearl Eliminator Demon Drive & Axis.

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Old 06-28-2010, 09:02 PM
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interesting idea, i was waiting for somebody to do something along these lines...

but....

how is having a direct link attached to the cam going to effect the how the cam works? seems to me you just turned a power glide into a direct link rolling glide. now we all know a direct drive is going to have a different feel and different power but is this trade off really worth it?
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:13 PM
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I would actually get this if I had an IC.
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:01 PM
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interesting idea, i was waiting for somebody to do something along these lines...

but....

how is having a direct link attached to the cam going to effect the how the cam works? seems to me you just turned a power glide into a direct link rolling glide. now we all know a direct drive is going to have a different feel and different power but is this trade off really worth it?
It doesn't effect the cam at all. It just replaces the chain. Making it a solid link between the pedal board and the beater. Instead of a limp chain.
It keeps all the original characteristics of smooth feel and fluid action.
But it really intensifies the Iron Cobra.
Giving it more power, attack, and response.
Chains have slack, which cause less response and you have to adjust.
Direct Drive just adds incredible power, attack, and response. Your pedal is not altered in any way. It still keeps all its features.
I have been drumming for 10 years now. I have used my Iron Cobras Power Glide nearly every step of the way. Always with chains. I have a pair of Stomp Drive Direct Drive Links on mine now. And I can definitely feel a difference. I love how precise it is.
I also thought the same thing for Pearl Demon Drive and Axis but they are just too expensive.
But here are some videos.

Here is our video of Clearance and description of Stomp Drive Retrofit Links.
This video is also viewable at our website on the homepage. http://www.stompdrive.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx6c000qGnk

Here is our video pedal motion and description of Stomp Drive Retrofit Links.
This video is also viewable at our website on the homepage. http://www.stompdrive.com

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Old 06-28-2010, 10:35 PM
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I've never been a fan of direct drive pedals that I've played, but I've never played a high end one...

I might think about this for my Cobras.
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:54 PM
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Very cool! Will you be adapting this invention to other brands? DW? Pearl (Eliminator)?
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:55 PM
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It doesn't effect the cam at all. It just replaces the chain. Making it a solid link between the pedal board and the beater. Instead of a limp chain.
It keeps all the original characteristics of smooth feel and fluid action.
But it really intensifies the Iron Cobra.
Giving it more power, attack, and response.
Chains have slack, which cause less response and you have to adjust.
Direct Drive just adds incredible power, attack, and response. Your pedal is not altered in any way. It still keeps all its features.
I have been drumming for 10 years now. I have used my Iron Cobras Power Glide nearly every step of the way. Always with chains. I have a pair of Stomp Drive Direct Drive Links on mine now. And I can definitely feel a difference. I love how precise it is.
I also thought the same thing for Pearl Demon Drive and Axis but they are just too expensive.
But here are some videos.

Here is our video of Clearance and description of Stomp Drive Retrofit Links.
This video is also viewable at our website on the homepage. http://www.stompdrive.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx6c000qGnk

Here is our video pedal motion and description of Stomp Drive Retrofit Links.
This video is also viewable at our website on the homepage. http://www.stompdrive.com

Thank You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIvABcTyIbM
i understand your just replacing the chain with a link system, BUT the powerglide cam has a varying curvature to the cam so the cam speeds up as it rotates. you've taken the ability for the cam to accelerate as the footboard lowers. it's now a fixed speed a la rolling glide cam.

my question about it is how does the loss of acceleration compare agianst the added power of the direct drive? is the direct drive adding more power then what is lost, less, equivilent?

i did actually read your website, watched the youtube video and read what other people had said from a few other forums yesterday before i posted the first post thismorning, although i have yet to see anything from somebody who's used it. i'm not dissing it in anyway, i really hope it works with no real draw backs cuz i love my ic's and i would love to have a direct drive. if it works i'll probably pick up half a dozen sets....
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:12 PM
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Sort of a question on DD in general. I've played on Axis and Eliminators in store briefly and really liked the feel. I listened to a friend's complaint with DD petals, he didn't use them because the foot board snaps up too quickly as it's lacking the slack that a chain drive provides.

I play with a whole lot of heel-toe, and I'm looking into a set of Cobras, so would my playing benefit from a direct drive setup?
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:29 PM
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Sort of a question on DD in general. I've played on Axis and Eliminators in store briefly and really liked the feel. I listened to a friend's complaint with DD petals, he didn't use them because the foot board snaps up too quickly as it's lacking the slack that a chain drive provides.

I play with a whole lot of heel-toe, and I'm looking into a set of Cobras, so would my playing benefit from a direct drive setup?
I have been playing these for 4 weeks now and with direct drive. I also use heel-to-toe and i really cant tell it snapping back quick at all. Its almost an extension of your foot.
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:36 PM
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i understand your just replacing the chain with a link system, BUT the powerglide cam has a varying curvature to the cam so the cam speeds up as it rotates. you've taken the ability for the cam to accelerate as the footboard lowers. it's now a fixed speed a la rolling glide cam.

my question about it is how does the loss of acceleration compare agianst the added power of the direct drive? is the direct drive adding more power then what is lost, less, equivilent?

i did actually read your website, watched the youtube video and read what other people had said from a few other forums yesterday before i posted the first post thismorning, although i have yet to see anything from somebody who's used it. i'm not dissing it in anyway, i really hope it works with no real draw backs cuz i love my ic's and i would love to have a direct drive. if it works i'll probably pick up half a dozen sets....
Well if you have noticed these are currently designed for the original IC's. They do not have as much curvature.
The speed and power is equal to or better. Yes well we have Jared Falk owner of RailRoad Media , he is a professional drummer and instructor. He is doing a review on it as we speak.
here is his link www.jaredfalk.com
Once he puts up his review im sure he will explain his opinion on the pedal. He has an influential opinion.

I understand. I personally believe and im not bias, that these are really amazing and are worth the time and money. But yes once Jared Falk gets his review up i will post it on all of the forums and sites. All I can say right now is they are extremely smooth, durable, fast , and precise.
Thank You, just as a reminder we do have a return policy so that your not stuck with what you buy. And we are a secure site.
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:37 PM
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Very cool! Will you be adapting this invention to other brands? DW? Pearl (Eliminator)?
Yes DW and Pearl are actually our next options.
Pearl Eliminator
And DW 7000
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:38 PM
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I've never been a fan of direct drive pedals that I've played, but I've never played a high end one...

I might think about this for my Cobras.
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Hmmmm...........do you have any vidoes of people actually playing this with thier feet?

You had me interested until you mentioned Jared Falk!
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:39 PM
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Hmmmm...........do you have any vidoes of people actually playing this with thier feet?

You had me interested until you mentioned Jared Falk!
We will very soon in fact. When we get it I will post that video here.

Why i am curios?
Jared Falk has nothing to do with this other than he is doing a review. Just to be clear.
He just requested to a review.
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This is an interesting idea for those who would like to keep their pedals but switch to direct drive.
This only works if someone already has a cobra & wants to keep it instead of upgrading to a high end pedal. If you add the cost of IC's plus 2 Stomp Drive you get:
$380 + $100 = $480
The price range of most direct drive pedals is $450-$650 (Not counting the super expensive new Axis 21 pedal). I'm sure there is some interest for this product but I think you will have a lot of competition due to the over-saturation of new gear in the pedal market.

What would you say is the advantage of upgrading to Stomp Drive vs buying an actual high end pedal designed with direct drive already? (Other than money).
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This is an interesting idea for those who would like to keep their pedals but switch to direct drive.
This only works if someone already has a cobra & wants to keep it instead of upgrading to a high end pedal. If you add the cost of IC's plus 2 Stomp Drive you get:
$380 + $100 = $480
The price range of most direct drive pedals is $450-$650 (Not counting the super expensive new Axis 21 pedal). I'm sure there is some interest for this product but I think you will have a lot of competition due to the over-saturation of new gear in the pedal market.

What would you say is the advantage of upgrading to Stomp Drive vs buying an actual high end pedal designed with direct drive already? (Other than money).
Well it will be for other pedals in all different price ranges. So the totals will not always be 380-480. the difference between 480-600 can mean a lot to people. We are offering this for pedals who dont have Direct Drive. Im a prime example i have had my iron cobras for 8 years. i wanted direct drive but wanted my cobras. so we designed and made a set for iron cobra, we will be making systems for DW, Pearl, Mapex, and etc. Well there is alwasy competition. It has the same feel and precision. And is of the same quality. And allows you to own direct drive on the pedals you love without having to buy new pedals. Stomp Drive Direct Drive Systems are very high end, and are very smooth. We use the best materials for these. A $100 upgrade to a 3 year olds pedal is better than buying a $600 pedal new. Its all about personal preference i guess. Hope I helped Cheers.
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The option of chain, strap and now direct drive.....on the same pedal!!

Great option. I can certainly see a market for this idea.
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The option of chain, strap and now direct drive.....on the same pedal!!

Great option. I can certainly see a market for this idea.
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How would this work for the Eliminator? I think what draws many people to the Elims is the customizability; mainly the interchangeable cam system and I don't see how this could work with the cam system, at least not economically.

The thing that allows the cam system to work is that there's a flexible drive (chain or belt) that goes over the cam which allows the cam to control where the pivot point is, which changes the feel. With DD the drive isn't flexible, so it would have be designed for one or none of the cams.

If it was one (ie the stompdrive installs over the cam) then you'd have to have 4 (errr... actually six) different models available and force the buyer to choose which they want (and some people like switching them up so it could be costly). If it was none (ie you have to remove the cam before installing the stompdrive) then you're obviously throwing out the whole cam system.

Of course I could be way off on all of this too... Just curious 'cause I like the idea of having even MORE options... for some reason...
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How would this work for the Eliminator? I think what draws many people to the Elims is the customizability; mainly the interchangeable cam system and I don't see how this could work with the cam system, at least not economically.

The thing that allows the cam system to work is that there's a flexible drive (chain or belt) that goes over the cam which allows the cam to control where the pivot point is, which changes the feel. With DD the drive isn't flexible, so it would have be designed for one or none of the cams.

If it was one (ie the stompdrive installs over the cam) then you'd have to have 4 (errr... actually six) different models available and force the buyer to choose which they want (and some people like switching them up so it could be costly). If it was none (ie you have to remove the cam before installing the stompdrive) then you're obviously throwing out the whole cam system.

Of course I could be way off on all of this too... Just curious 'cause I like the idea of having even MORE options... for some reason...
We have not designed our Version for the Eliminator Yet. So I cannot answer questions just yet.

Yeah I understand. When we get the info we need we will Post it on the forums and our website.

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If ,or when you make a stomp drive for the eliminator you should make it fit without any of the plastic cams installed. There would be less pieces involved, less chance for any sort of play or looseness, and plastic pieces to fail or get worn out. BUT I think you should also make a design that looses the cam totally, like this one http://derekroddy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16972 . It would have alot lighter feel, and that guys design also has a VDL(Axis) like adjustment option. Your design offers only one feel for the pedal, which you may like or not.
Installing a totally new DD system and taking the cam out would be harder to do but I believe most pedals have a similar axle. I guess some are metric sized afferentnd others are measured in inches( whatever you call your american system) so you wouldn't have to desing a different cam attachment for every pedal.
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If ,or when you make a stomp drive for the eliminator you should make it fit without any of the plastic cams installed. There would be less pieces involved, less chance for any sort of play or looseness, and plastic pieces to fail or get worn out. BUT I think you should also make a design that looses the cam totally, like this one http://derekroddy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16972 . It would have alot lighter feel, and that guys design also has a VDL(Axis) like adjustment option. Your design offers only one feel for the pedal, which you may like or not.
Installing a totally new DD system and taking the cam out would be harder to do but I believe most pedals have a similar axle. I guess some are metric sized afferentnd others are measured in inches( whatever you call your american system) so you wouldn't have to desing a different cam attachment for every pedal.
Thats our plan. The Eliminators just came in so were starting soon.
Our goal is for people not having to tear the entire pedal apart.
I mean I understand the VDL benefits. but if we can create adjustments without removing pedal components that would be the most awesome thing I believe. As a drummer I would rather add instead of breaking down my pedal. I appreciate your words. Thanks for sharing anzi.
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Another question for you here. Just saw that Tama came out with these babies:

http://www.tama.com/new

This looks like everything I'd want in a pedal minus the DD. So will the Iron Cobra part fit on this and if not, how likely is an aftermarket part for the Speed Cobra? Also, will it fit on the IC jr?
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Another question for you here. Just saw that Tama came out with these babies:

http://www.tama.com/new

This looks like everything I'd want in a pedal minus the DD. So will the Iron Cobra part fit on this and if not, how likely is an aftermarket part for the Speed Cobra? Also, will it fit on the IC jr?

It might we havent tested that. Might be something to look into because it is a new pedal and no one has really requested it. or mentioned until now. We also do not know that yet. I had a guy email yesterday asking about the IC Jr. All I could say is if he wanted to try them we have a respectable return policy. You can buy try and return. heres our Policy.
You can do this for the new SC and the IC Jr.

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Old 07-15-2010, 11:17 PM
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I had a guy email yesterday asking about the IC Jr. All I could say is if he wanted to try them we have a respectable return policy.
Actually that was me. I don't own an IC jr at the moment, was more researching different options. It seems a bit spend-ey to rush out and buy a linkage and pedal if I'm not sure yet if they'll work together. I was hoping this was something you had already tried before. R&D or something like that...
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I think the idea is marvelous, but I have one concern: have you checked whether it is entirely legal to use the Iron Cobra brand to market your product? What I mean to ask is that do you know whether or not Tama Drums is able to drag you to court, put you out of business, and later on venture to offer a similar product at a cheaper price after seeing how large a demand the Stomp Drive can generate?
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Actually that was me. I don't own an IC jr at the moment, was more researching different options. It seems a bit spend-ey to rush out and buy a linkage and pedal if I'm not sure yet if they'll work together. I was hoping this was something you had already tried before. R&D or something like that...
Well R&D does not apply for the IC Jr. Because it is built for the IC Power-Glide. I have had numerous emails about the IC Jr. We have no purchased the IC Jr. Were working on designs for the Pearl Eliminator and DW 7000 And Upcoming Mapex Falcon. But someone might take the chance to try it on the Jr. But like I said we designed it for the IC Power- Glide. But I understand where your coming from, specially when you dont even have the pedal.
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I think the idea is marvelous, but I have one concern: have you checked whether it is entirely legal to use the Iron Cobra brand to market your product? What I mean to ask is that do you know whether or not Tama Drums is able to drag you to court, put you out of business, and later on venture to offer a similar product at a cheaper price after seeing how large a demand the Stomp Drive can generate?
Thank You. What we are doing is completely legal, because we are not using the Iron Cobra name to market our product. Our product is a Retrofit: the addition of a new accessory, technology, or feature(s) to an older system. Our Product is an add on. We are not claiming to be Tama, nor does our product incorporate the Tama name on it. Our product is marked, or lazer engraved Stomp Drive. They are not able to drag us into court. What we are doing is completely legal. Retrofitting is not a crime. If and when the Tama name is used by our company it is to indicate what our product is used with or for. So the use of their name in fact if anything drives traffic for them. Tama is too large of a company to built retrofit kits for the IC Power-Glide and older pedals. Their solution would simply be to build a new Direct Drive Drum Pedal. But yes what we do is completely legal. The only times their company named is used. Would be on our site and to inform what our product is for. We are Stomp Drive.
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Thank You. What we are doing is completely legal, because we are not using the Iron Cobra name to market our product. Our product is a Retrofit: the addition of a new accessory, technology, or feature(s) to an older system.
Kind of like the aftermarket for cars. Tons of stuff there.

I think this is a very cool idea. I'd be interested in seeing this for a DW5000. That's a pretty popular pedal.
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Kind of like the aftermarket for cars. Tons of stuff there.

I think this is a very cool idea. I'd be interested in seeing this for a DW5000. That's a pretty popular pedal.
Yup true.
Thank You. Were about to start design on the DW7000. You can vote on our website for which pedal u want. its a poll on the homepage. Thanks for the advice Pavlos
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Yup true.
Thank You. Were about to start design on the DW7000. You can vote on our website for which pedal u want. its a poll on the homepage. Thanks for the advice Pavlos
I'm pretty sure if it fits the 7000 it will probably fit the 5000 without too many adjustments...
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I'm pretty sure if it fits the 7000 it will probably fit the 5000 without too many adjustments...
That would be great if it did.
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That would be great if it did.

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If you could fashion an adjustable link* like the one below for AXIS, you'd have a lot of buyers.


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Heres our kit for the Pearl Eliminator

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It's great that you designed separate beater angle and footboard height adjustments for elims! I still miss that vdl-like adjustment, but eliminator has the powershifter heelplate... This is starting to get tempting. Could it be possible for you to measure how much your linkage weights compared to pearls belt and/or chain.I could really feel the difference with the chain and belt, which was alot lighter. I really should get paid more for my gigs so I could afford to try these. :)
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Sumthin' like this for AXIS please!




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It's great that you designed separate beater angle and footboard height adjustments for elims! I still miss that vdl-like adjustment, but eliminator has the powershifter heelplate... This is starting to get tempting. Could it be possible for you to measure how much your linkage weights compared to pearls belt and/or chain.I could really feel the difference with the chain and belt, which was alot lighter. I really should get paid more for my gigs so I could afford to try these. :)
Thanks. As far as weight, I cant tell you just yet, but very soon. But I can use our Stomp Drive system for Iron Cobra and compare. The weight of the original chains of the Iron Cobra are 2.0 ounces. Our direct drive system for the Iron Cobra only weighs 3.3 ounces fully assembled. So the difference between those are nearly 1.3 ounces. But the Eliminator has a blet and its kinda light, But its attachment pieces are heavy so it might pan out to weight not much more than the original belt just as the Iron Cobra. But were not certain yet. I will keep you informed. :)
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the original chains of the Iron Cobra are 2.0 ounces. Our direct drive system for the Iron Cobra only weighs 3.3 ounces fully assembled.

An ounce is a fairly considerable amount of weight... so IC will be even heavier (by 1.3 oz) than stock. Hmmmm
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I have to say, if it weren't for the fact that these are $100 BEFORE shipping I'd likely already have a set. As awesome as it is, I just literally cannot see what justifies that cost. Surely the materials aren't that expensive, and I heavily doubt there's that much to the manufacturing process.
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I have to say, if it weren't for the fact that these are $100 BEFORE shipping I'd likely already have a set. As awesome as it is, I just literally cannot see what justifies that cost. Surely the materials aren't that expensive, and I heavily doubt there's that much to the manufacturing process.
We believe in satisfying customers in any way we can. Our work and products are top quality and very precise. We use precision CNC equipment. Our Products are built to help you. Also to better you and give drummers who want direct drive, on there pedals, the possibility. Quite a bit can go into machining, finishing, and assembly. But thank you for your kind words. Also shipping is a flat rate of nearly $6. We are currently machining the Pearl Eliminator Retrofit. It features an adjustable link. For those who want to adjust the beater independently from the foot board.
This new design can be viewed here.

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