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Old 03-31-2015, 07:31 PM
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Back in the day,a lot of us jobbers made decent money playing weddings and dances at places like the VFW and small clubs(ask Vince Colaiuta).

Polkas were always a standard at weddings cause you had to know at least a couple to get by.

Part of the combo was an accordion player and believe it or not,before 1960 was the most studied instrument in America.

One of my worst experiences was at UC San Diego(I was studying experimental percussion with Jean Charles Francois) where on May 1st ,because I could play a polka ,was asked by an accordion player to fill in for a paying noon gig ($20 bucks).

I said ,oh what the hell ,an easy $20 bucks.
They students proceeded to throw pennies and oranges at us for the 30 or so minutes we played.
After the gig ,the accordion player who was from Orange County,asked me if I wanted to play some gigs up there and I said no thank you.

So the question is why all the hate?

I mean you can hum a Polka ,but not Varese.
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Old 03-31-2015, 07:49 PM
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Lawrence Welk

A symbol of that periods split between generations.
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Old 03-31-2015, 08:16 PM
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Lawrence Welk

A symbol of that periods split between generations.
He's still on after all of these years on PBS.
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Why is the accordian so hated?.
As a Mexican I have no idea what in the Hell you're talking about...

...hating the accordion, NOW I've heard everything...
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Default Re: Why is the accordian so hated?

It is not hated.
Entire genres of music are based around it (Cajun Zydeco, Country, German folk, many ethnic sounds)....and it has bled into a lot of rock and pop music (Paul Simon, Dylan, Band, Mumford....).
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Default Re: Why is the accordian so hated?

I don't hate accordions. I hate accordion players.

JK. I'm joking! OMG lighten up!

I'd hate bagpipes before I hate accordion, but it's really kind of dumb to hate any inanimate object. Hate is something I reserve for certain humans lol. George W comes to mind. I don't hate any musical instrument. Accordion has certain applications where nothing else will do.
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I'd hate bagpipes before I hate accordion...
Ok, now you're crossing the line there Larry! As a (former) pipe band drummer I find that HIGHLY offensive!

If we're gonna hate any inanimate object, especially an instrument it should be the vuvuzela. *shudders*
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So drummers can have someone to look down on. ;)
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I have a healthy respect for the accordion.

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I've always thought accordion was cool. Before the Beatles and all that early rock 'n' roll, it was the instrument that all the kids played. That guy with the pelvic sorcery really changed everything!
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It is not hated.
Entire genres of music are based around it (Cajun Zydeco, Country, German folk, many ethnic sounds)....and it has bled into a lot of rock and pop music (Paul Simon, Dylan, Band, Mumford....).
Well Hwood would give us Steve Urkel in lederhosen and how uncool the music was.

Look ,I never thought much of LWelk and I was a die hard big band guy,but I mean there was outright spite for a band with an accordion player in the mix.

Actually one of my favs with the accordion:

They Might Be Giants-Ana Ng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEjutUbgpH8
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dont tell "Weird Al" Yankovic that :)
i like the accordian , but then again , i like the kazoo ! lmfao
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There was an accordion player who was driving home late one night after a gig. He was very tired and kept dozing off behind the wheel before recovering. This happened several times before he decided to pull over at a truck stop diner and get some coffee. He parked way out in the parking lot (last spot left) and went inside where there was only booth left in the very back at the other end. He ordered his coffee and, as he began to drink, he realized he had left his accordion in plane site in his car. Immediately he jumped up from his table, ran across the diner, out the door, and across the parking lot, but, it was too late. Someone had smashed his window and left.................another accordion!

Maybe people hate accordion jokes more than accordions.
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The accordion and the bagpipes are hated because they are both stupid instruments. That's the only reason I can come with...

Of course I'm just messing around.

But really, some instruments make sounds that have to be appreciated to be liked. I think a lot of people can't or won't appreciate the accordion because they hear it and think of Lawrence Welk. I'm thinking the only type of music more hated than disco is polka.

Even today when I hear Mexican music I ask myself why they are listening to Lawrence Welk music...lol
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The accordion and the bagpipes are hated because they are both stupid instruments. That's the only reason I can come with...

Of course I'm just messing around.

But really, some instruments make sounds that have to be appreciated to be liked. I think a lot of people can't or won't appreciate the accordion because they hear it and think of Lawrence Welk. I'm thinking the only type of music more hated than disco is polka.

Even today when I hear Mexican music I ask myself why they are listening to Lawrence Welk music...lol
Primary purpose of those forms of music was to dance to.

I had a friend of an uncle complain how Gene Krupas big band was lousy because nobody could dance to the music.

I've noticed out on the west coast,the only live music that people dance to seems to be Mexican.
Other dance music is all DJ's.

I remember going to Holiday Inns back in my youth and there were a great number of cover bands that folks danced to.

I guess it is cheaper to DJ,but as much as people out here b!tch about aesthetics ,you never miss what you never had.
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Even today when I hear Mexican music I ask myself why they are listening to Lawrence Welk music...lol
I have to be honest as this is the second time Lawrence Welk was mentioned in this thread. I had to Google who he is as I had nooo idea. I ended up watching a few clips of his TV show where a band was playing Swing music and ended up more confused than when I started.
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I grew up on Lawrence Welk and I'm only 20.

True story: I always wanted to be a tap dancer. I would shuffle up a storm and I always wanted tap shoes but my parents never got me any. But they eventually did get me drums...I don't think they thought that one through too well.

My dad has an accordion and he used to take lessons when he was young. I've only dabbled around with it, though.
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I love hearing accordian in Mexican music. The Mavericks have used it to great effect in their music. Most notably the song "All You Ever Do Is Bring Me Down" and that song rocks!!
I was part of a morning radio show here in Phoenix for years and one of the guys "Skippy" played accordian. Gotta tell you, it looks hard to play, with all that pumping and finger work on both sides of the bellows. We'd do live appearances and he'd play requests and people loved it. Ever hear Stairway to Heaven, Folsom Prison Blues or Mozart's Clarinet Concerto on accordian? Skippy could play 'em and it sounded great.
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The students proceeded to throw pennies and oranges at us for the 30 or so minutes we played. So the question is why all the hate?
Are you sure it was the accordion they were hating on?

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Even today when I hear Mexican music I ask myself why they are listening to Lawrence Welk music...lol
Because:

Tejano is the name given to various forms of folk and popular music originating around the Texas-Mexico border in the late 1800s. Tejanos were mostly involved in ranching and agriculture, and their only diversion was the occasional traveling musician who would come to the ranches and farms to sing traditional Mexican songs that were passed down through the generations. In the 1850s, Europeans from Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic migrated to Texas and Mexico, bringing with them the waltz, polkas, and other popular forms of music and dance. As the Tejano musicos traveled into areas where the European immigrants lived, they began to incorporate the oom-pah sound into their music.

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Are you sure it was the accordion they were hating on?


Try playing polkas at Sproul or Frank Ogawa Plaza and I think you'll get what I'm talking about.

Bring in a Yamaha keyboard that emulates an accordion and there won't be anywhere near the drama.
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Go listen to Gianluigi Trovesi and Gianni Coscia's album "In cerca di cibo" and tell me you don't love the accordion!

http://www.amazon.com/In-cerca-cibo-.../dp/B00004SPOG

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I have a healthy respect for the accordion.

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But at the same time, I can't help but think Al helped millions of 80's kids view the accordion as more as a comedy musical instrument rather than a "serious" instrument, and thus the OP's experience.
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