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Old 01-26-2013, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Remo Fiberskyn

So the question is has the Fiberskin technology changed at all since this thread started 7 years ago? Mine sounded a little tinny and not hide-like.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:06 PM
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Nope. Fiberskyn's still a Fiberskyn.
Remo has, however, found a way to make a head from the coating they use for the Fiberskyn.
The head is called Skyntone( http://www.remo.com/portal/products/.../overview.html ) and I'm very curious as to how it performs (dreams of a "Legacy" type sound returning to Remo's stable).






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Old 01-27-2013, 12:05 AM
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Remo has been on the third generation of Fiberskyn for at least ten, maybe 15 years.

I've used the Skyntone head on my snare drum before and I like it, but it is a thin head and seems to like higher tuning only. Remo has expanded into a larger range of sizes for tom toms, but I'm too in love with Aquarian Modern Vintage to give 'em a shot right now.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:09 AM
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Winston,

If you're old enough to remember using the old Remo Legacy heads, does the Skyntone remind of you that one?



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Old 01-27-2013, 05:56 AM
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I'm old enough to remember them, but I've never seen or played them. Back at that time I was a Pinstripe guy...

The Skyntone heads are 7mil (Diplomat weight) have a nice dark tone and very subdued attack, even tuned up.

What were the qualities of the Legacy heads? I've heard about them a lot, but since I've never seen or heard them for myself I really don't know what to compare them to.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:17 PM
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Legacy's were very warm and fat with a mellow attack, but not "tubby" like a Pinstripe.
The Fiberskyn was the Legacy's replacement, after issues with the coating cropped up.
Comparitively, the Fiberskyn is much drier and less open.
Thanks for the info on the Skyntone. I gotta drop by the local Ted Brown next week anyway, so maybe I'll look at them a little closer then.



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I'd also give the Aquarian Modern Vintage a shot. They don't have that "freshly carved off an animal" look Remo is fond of, but I think they sound better than any of Remo's "calfskin-style" heads by a long shot and the coating is just as bullet proof as any other Aquarian head..
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:21 PM
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And they aren't very good if you ever use brushes.
Which is why they used it for the Ed Thigpen Brush Up practice pad.


Huh??

If anything, they retain brush sound long after the coating has gone on Coated Ambassadors.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:44 PM
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I'd also give the Aquarian Modern Vintage a shot. They don't have that "freshly carved off an animal" look Remo is fond of, but I think they sound better than any of Remo's "calfskin-style" heads by a long shot and the coating is just as bullet proof as any other Aquarian head..
I'll play devil's advocate.
I've been hearing about the "warm", "calf-like" descriptives of the MV/AV heads for years.
So much so, that I got a set for my kit.
Here's a pic of my kit outfitted with new MV's...



According to Aquarian, what the "vintage" series really boils down to is a double thick texture coating.
This is supposed to add extra warmth and mellowness to the head.
What I experienced is that they made my drums sound like the cardboard boxes they came in.
I was truely shocked, but learned a lesson.
Anything that boils down to having a "thicker-than-usual" coating on it, is not going to come out warmer, but rather drier and with increased presence of attack.
When I realized this, I also realized I'd proven this to myself a few times over the years.
The afforementioned Legacy vs. Fiberskyn. Although a slightly different formulation, the FS is basically a Legacy with an extra thick coating.
Same goes for the old Control Sound heads.
I had always noticed that when you hit the dot, the attack becomes much more apparant. When used as a bass drum head, it adds a little extra "slam" to the sound of the drum.
Maybe if I used a "rock" tuning, the results may be different, but I've always tuned my drums for tone and a nice, round sound and in that instance, the heads failed miserably.



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Old 01-29-2013, 12:05 AM
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How long did you stick with the Modern Vintage heads? I've found they take some breaking in before the edginess mellows out.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:39 AM
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No "edginess" about it.
I got the same talk from others. I think I stuck with it maybe a month or two.
It's hard to remember anymore. It's been about 10-11 years since this happened (the pic I posted is from 2002, IIRC).
But I do remember clearly that the sound never changed.
Flat as a pancake.
...and you're going to tell me I should'vbe stuck with it longer.
I've heard it all before.
I used to sell Premier drums, so I know a little about heads that require breaking in, but these things really were the exact opposite of what everyone had said about them.
Regular TC's were a hundred times better.
It's my experience and a lesson that I still adhere to.
It also proves that not everyone gets the same results to the same treatment.




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