Extreme technicality

[Frost]

This isn't a "is excessive technicality good or bad discussion", this isn't an argument about the place technical drumming has in music, nor is it a place to argue jazz vs metal or unreasonable tempo.

It's just a place to show off and discuss some absolute marvels of drumming as like it or not, some drummers are inhuman in their technical capacity.

This is an audio track from Czech band called Lykathea Aflame, while I don't love the music (some of it sounds wonderful to my ears but other parts are quite noisy), the drumming however is utterly mind blowing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dx8TP9UMX8

Here's a cool video....notice the left hand, it's nothing but a blurr toward the end of the solo....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr7SfAHRTys

Another oldie but goodie....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faqbw96flWY

[Frost]

Breaking my own rules, nobody understands the meaning of technical wankery until they watch Rusty Cooley play guitar....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97LTj-_8at0

[Frost]

Originally Posted by Tommycanuhearme

Another oldie but goodie....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faqbw96flWY

I'd almost call that more of a chair solo! Musical opinions aside that was incredibly entertaining.

[DrumEatDrum]

Originally Posted by Frost

This is an audio track from Czech band called Lykathea Aflame, while I don't love the music (some of it sounds wonderful to my ears but other parts are quite noisy), the drumming however is utterly mind blowing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dx8TP9UMX8

Sorry, as soon as the vocals came on, I had to turn it off!

Originally Posted by Tommycanuhearme

Here's a cool video....notice the left hand, it's nothing but a blurr toward the end of the solo....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr7SfAHRTys

neat.

Originally Posted by Tommycanuhearme

Another oldie but goodie....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faqbw96flWY

Ah, I've heard of Barrett Deems, the so called "worlds fastest drummer", but I'd never actually seen a clip of him play. Nice chair solo!

[Frost]

Originally Posted by DrumEatDrum

Sorry, as soon as the vocals came on, I had to turn it off!

I understand that much at least, I don't love death growls, I find they can fit the music now and then, they serve a dynamic purpose occasionally, for example, growls and sopranos, growling is animalistic and because of that can have a certain power and quality to it, like a lion roaring, operatics are beautiful and together if done right the contrast can highlight the qualities of the other. Now and then it also serves to carry music from one part to another where the music is already very melodic and textured and adding further melody would be redundant.

There is actually singing in that song, I wish I could have just found the drummer but the band are fairly obscure, I can just tell you now that I've listened to a lot of technical metal before and Lykathea Aflame have some of the most insane drumming I've ever heard, John Longstreth kind of insane, it's impressive if not always musical.

[MisterMixelpix]

Never fails to impress, Lord Marco Pitruzella: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vaGDS0bDh0

Also, Ron Casey of Brain Drill now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnTJ7cdgM0g

More later.

I could not find any music in either one of those videos, just random notes played fast.
I find it kinda sad that this kind of garbage is so wide spread, remember what the Count said, "It don't mean a thing if it aint got that swing".

[MisterMixelpix]

Good for you. Swing doesn't interest me. Give me dissonance and aggression any day of the week.

[dairyairman]

Originally Posted by MisterMixelpix

Also, Ron Casey of Brain Drill now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnTJ7cdgM0g

it's weird. that was a fairly impressive display of blasting and so on, but where is the bass drum?

[MisterMixelpix]

Originally Posted by dairyairman

it's weird. that was a fairly impressive display of blasting and so on, but where is the bass drum?

It's under there, you just can't hear it due to poor recording quality. The whole album was recorded on an acoustic kit, so if you look up the actual tracks you can hear what it sounds like. Needless to say, he's got some quick feet to match the hands.

[Thaard]

Spastic ink, Planet X, Panzerballet. Check´em out!

[joeysnare]

mushugga and arsis (we are the nighmare album with dean cesna playing drums)

[MisterMixelpix]

Def on Arsis. Cesna's a monster.

[Frost]

For death metal Arsis are technically quite exciting,

Check out this clip by Origin - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIMW0aHN0ks

Not pretty sounding music but as far as speed and precision goes it's rather impressive.

I thought this was to be a thread about technique, instead it's turned into metal drummers which have no technique other than single stroke rolls done over and over, at least not any they are displaying in these videos.
Here's some technique for ya....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn9fkAGwJcM

[Frost]

I think speed is it's own technique, there are certainly techniques for kicking and stroking at those speeds in time. Feel free to post other techniques like you did, here is something from the non-metal end of the spectrum,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4hq3HY5t0o

[Mr. Pasquini]

Originally Posted by Frost

I think speed is it's own technique, there are certainly techniques for kicking and stroking at those speeds in time. Feel free to post other techniques like you did, here is something from the non-metal end of the spectrum,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4hq3HY5t0o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A

Bobby Jarzombek video. All of these tracks are exceptional. If you have 14 minutes, watch the whole thing.

[Frost]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pasquini

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A

Bobby Jarzombek video. All of these tracks are exceptional. If you have 14 minutes, watch the whole thing.

That is some bizarre cymbal placement

[Scorched]

Although Ron's already been posted, Brain drill are the wankiest band around.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0LjQlf2fJw

[MisterMixelpix]

He really is a beast, isn't he? Not too varied, but I'd argue he might be the fastest blaster out there right now.

[Drum-Head]

Some people are so narrow-minded it boggles me...

[Scorched]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8PhLxpDBBM

Really good drummer. Independance is insane.

Originally Posted by MisterMixelpix

He really is a beast, isn't he? Not too varied, but I'd argue he might be the fastest blaster out there right now.

Yeah man he's definitely up there, And he's got way more power at those speeds than Marco ever had.

Originally Posted by Mr. Pasquini

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A

Bobby Jarzombek video. All of these tracks are exceptional. If you have 14 minutes, watch the whole thing.

Bobby use to teach at a drum shop where I live in San Antonio, he almost bought a kit from me, but he decided it wasn't quite what he was looking for.

[Drum-Head]

Please check out Julian Percy on Youtube (RIP). He was awesome!

[Tim Waterson]

Originally Posted by Tommycanuhearme

Here's a cool video....notice the left hand, it's nothing but a blurr toward the end of the solo....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr7SfAHRTys

this GUY is cool I hearb a bit about him from Art Verdi.
Better and cleaner than a lot of guys with HUGE kits
Tim

[Frost]

Speaking of huge kits, Terry Bozzio...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvCVlmhRQds

[joeysnare]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pasquini

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A

Bobby Jarzombek video. All of these tracks are exceptional. If you have 14 minutes, watch the whole thing.

the one bobby does called "school" has always been one of my favs, i wish i had the limb indpendence that he has.

[joeysnare]

oh and anything that chris cole is involved with, that man is a master technician!

[zakhopper316]

david king, he's probably to advanced for all of us tho

[Hedon]

Originally Posted by Scorched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8PhLxpDBBM

Really good drummer. Independance is insane.

damn, never heard his name before. this guy is incredible.

[keep it simple]

Originally Posted by Drum-Head

Please check out Julian Percy on Youtube (RIP). He was awesome!

Wow, such a young guy to die. Shame, colossal ability. Liked his solo drum stuff much more than his playing in a musical context though.