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Old 04-27-2010, 12:08 AM
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Default Extreme technicality

This isn't a "is excessive technicality good or bad discussion", this isn't an argument about the place technical drumming has in music, nor is it a place to argue jazz vs metal or unreasonable tempo.

It's just a place to show off and discuss some absolute marvels of drumming as like it or not, some drummers are inhuman in their technical capacity.

This is an audio track from Czech band called Lykathea Aflame, while I don't love the music (some of it sounds wonderful to my ears but other parts are quite noisy), the drumming however is utterly mind blowing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dx8TP9UMX8
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:33 AM
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Here's a cool video....notice the left hand, it's nothing but a blurr toward the end of the solo....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr7SfAHRTys
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:46 AM
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Another oldie but goodie....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faqbw96flWY
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:27 AM
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Breaking my own rules, nobody understands the meaning of technical wankery until they watch Rusty Cooley play guitar....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97LTj-_8at0
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:31 AM
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Another oldie but goodie....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faqbw96flWY
I'd almost call that more of a chair solo! Musical opinions aside that was incredibly entertaining.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:35 AM
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This is an audio track from Czech band called Lykathea Aflame, while I don't love the music (some of it sounds wonderful to my ears but other parts are quite noisy), the drumming however is utterly mind blowing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dx8TP9UMX8
Sorry, as soon as the vocals came on, I had to turn it off!

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Here's a cool video....notice the left hand, it's nothing but a blurr toward the end of the solo....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr7SfAHRTys
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Another oldie but goodie....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faqbw96flWY
Ah, I've heard of Barrett Deems, the so called "worlds fastest drummer", but I'd never actually seen a clip of him play. Nice chair solo!
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:42 AM
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Sorry, as soon as the vocals came on, I had to turn it off!
I understand that much at least, I don't love death growls, I find they can fit the music now and then, they serve a dynamic purpose occasionally, for example, growls and sopranos, growling is animalistic and because of that can have a certain power and quality to it, like a lion roaring, operatics are beautiful and together if done right the contrast can highlight the qualities of the other. Now and then it also serves to carry music from one part to another where the music is already very melodic and textured and adding further melody would be redundant.

There is actually singing in that song, I wish I could have just found the drummer but the band are fairly obscure, I can just tell you now that I've listened to a lot of technical metal before and Lykathea Aflame have some of the most insane drumming I've ever heard, John Longstreth kind of insane, it's impressive if not always musical.
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:10 AM
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Never fails to impress, Lord Marco Pitruzella: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vaGDS0bDh0

Also, Ron Casey of Brain Drill now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnTJ7cdgM0g

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Old 04-27-2010, 03:51 AM
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I could not find any music in either one of those videos, just random notes played fast.
I find it kinda sad that this kind of garbage is so wide spread, remember what the Count said, "It don't mean a thing if it aint got that swing".
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:55 AM
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Good for you. Swing doesn't interest me. Give me dissonance and aggression any day of the week.
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Also, Ron Casey of Brain Drill now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnTJ7cdgM0g
it's weird. that was a fairly impressive display of blasting and so on, but where is the bass drum?
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it's weird. that was a fairly impressive display of blasting and so on, but where is the bass drum?
It's under there, you just can't hear it due to poor recording quality. The whole album was recorded on an acoustic kit, so if you look up the actual tracks you can hear what it sounds like. Needless to say, he's got some quick feet to match the hands.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:20 PM
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Spastic ink, Planet X, Panzerballet. Check´em out!
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mushugga and arsis (we are the nighmare album with dean cesna playing drums)
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:07 PM
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Def on Arsis. Cesna's a monster.
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:35 PM
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For death metal Arsis are technically quite exciting,

Check out this clip by Origin - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIMW0aHN0ks

Not pretty sounding music but as far as speed and precision goes it's rather impressive.
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I thought this was to be a thread about technique, instead it's turned into metal drummers which have no technique other than single stroke rolls done over and over, at least not any they are displaying in these videos.
Here's some technique for ya....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn9fkAGwJcM

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Old 04-27-2010, 04:56 PM
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I think speed is it's own technique, there are certainly techniques for kicking and stroking at those speeds in time. Feel free to post other techniques like you did, here is something from the non-metal end of the spectrum,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4hq3HY5t0o
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I think speed is it's own technique, there are certainly techniques for kicking and stroking at those speeds in time. Feel free to post other techniques like you did, here is something from the non-metal end of the spectrum,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4hq3HY5t0o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A

Bobby Jarzombek video. All of these tracks are exceptional. If you have 14 minutes, watch the whole thing.
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:32 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A

Bobby Jarzombek video. All of these tracks are exceptional. If you have 14 minutes, watch the whole thing.
That is some bizarre cymbal placement
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Although Ron's already been posted, Brain drill are the wankiest band around.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0LjQlf2fJw
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Old 04-27-2010, 09:08 PM
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He really is a beast, isn't he? Not too varied, but I'd argue he might be the fastest blaster out there right now.
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Some people are so narrow-minded it boggles me...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8PhLxpDBBM

Really good drummer. Independance is insane.

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He really is a beast, isn't he? Not too varied, but I'd argue he might be the fastest blaster out there right now.
Yeah man he's definitely up there, And he's got way more power at those speeds than Marco ever had.
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Bobby Jarzombek video. All of these tracks are exceptional. If you have 14 minutes, watch the whole thing.
Bobby use to teach at a drum shop where I live in San Antonio, he almost bought a kit from me, but he decided it wasn't quite what he was looking for.
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Please check out Julian Percy on Youtube (RIP). He was awesome!
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Here's a cool video....notice the left hand, it's nothing but a blurr toward the end of the solo....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr7SfAHRTys
this GUY is cool I hearb a bit about him from Art Verdi.
Better and cleaner than a lot of guys with HUGE kits
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:01 AM
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Speaking of huge kits, Terry Bozzio...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvCVlmhRQds
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A

Bobby Jarzombek video. All of these tracks are exceptional. If you have 14 minutes, watch the whole thing.
the one bobby does called "school" has always been one of my favs, i wish i had the limb indpendence that he has.
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oh and anything that chris cole is involved with, that man is a master technician!
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david king, he's probably to advanced for all of us tho
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Really good drummer. Independance is insane.
damn, never heard his name before. this guy is incredible.
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Please check out Julian Percy on Youtube (RIP). He was awesome!
Wow, such a young guy to die. Shame, colossal ability. Liked his solo drum stuff much more than his playing in a musical context though.
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