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Old 03-03-2010, 04:42 PM
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This is a contuniation of an older thread, but this thread contained too much irrelevant information so I deemed it necessary to start anew. To summarize the old one:

Before lathing:



After lathing:



And today, completely built, it finally arrived at my home! After being held by customs for nearly two weeks, and after two failed attempts at delivery at my house, I went to pick it up at the local post office. Some pictures:















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Old 03-03-2010, 05:26 PM
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Congrats Phil, it is stunning! Must feel great to finally have it. It sits like an emperor amongst the Tamas! : )
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:39 PM
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Thanks aydee! Yes, it completely made my day! I actually had to be very careful when bringing it home - I was shaking with excitement...
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:55 PM
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Wow- that is effing sweet.

by far one of the nicest snare drums I have ever seen. I can't imagine how good it sounds. do you have any sound clips?

more pics please.

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Old 03-03-2010, 11:27 PM
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Wow, that's an absolutely stunning drum! Must sound like a gunshot!

Glad you finally received it after the saga you went through. enjoy!
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Fi-freaking-nally. That was about time, wasn't it. I'm glad you finally have it at your home. Beautiful pictures but please take more :-).
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:16 AM
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Big Phil, I would be afraid to even hit it. What gorgeous work again by Francois. Take a break once in a while from smiling or you will look like Bob the Viagra man.

Edit. It looks bigger than 6,5 inches.
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:42 AM
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Thanks everyone for the comments. I am indeed very happy that I finally have my snare drum. It looks even nicer in person and sounds awesome! I'm thinking about giving it a name... and have been staring at it for most of the evening. I also have a lot of experimenting to do with tuning. Poor neighbours...

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Edit. It looks bigger than 6,5 inches.
Upon measuring I came to the conclusion that it is indeed 7 inches deep rather than the 6,5 I asked for. A bit of a shame, but I am sure I can find a solution for it with Unix.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:09 AM
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My God, she's a Beast! Congrats on that magnificent specimen of a drum.
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My God, she's a Beast! Congrats on that magnificent specimen of a drum.
She sounds like one too!
I think I actually don't even mind about the extra depth - I am currently pondering whether or not to have that fixed - I got a quote from a Dutch stave manufacturer but he advised me to try it out first and see if it's absolutely necessary.

I´ll post some extra drum porn:

















That strainer butt in the top picture looks a little off - must have been a monday. I don't mind.

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Old 03-04-2010, 04:00 PM
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Oh, and one more picture: the knife with which I opened the package, which has a bubinga handle. All very ceremonial :)

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Upon measuring I came to the conclusion that it is indeed 7 inches deep rather than the 6,5 I asked for. A bit of a shame, but I am sure I can find a solution for it with Unix.
Ouch...that kinda sucks.

A nice snare drum, nonetheless. Congratulations on surviving the wait!
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Ouch...that kinda sucks.

A nice snare drum, nonetheless. Congratulations on surviving the wait!
Well a 1/2" difference is highly unnoticeable... I can have the shell cut down by a Dutch stave drum builder but both he and François say it's probably not a good idea. It can be done, but will be tricky because of the strainer, and the proportions with the lugs will be off balance.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:23 PM
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Altho I regret that mistake, you'll get increased bottom sound from your snare.
Do you give permission tu use some of your pics to put on my website.
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Old 03-04-2010, 07:07 PM
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IMHO, it's a sign of fate that you ended with 7" inch instead of 6.5" - The half of a inch will probably give you a little more of bottom end, a larger gap of tuning giving more substance to it's organic tone making it again a little bit more versatile.
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Old 03-04-2010, 07:22 PM
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Phil, though its a real bummer to finally not quite get exactly what you've been waiting for all this while, I think mindrummer has it pegged. The sonic tuning range of a 7" is more than that of a 6.5, so you'll have a greater range of possibilities to play with.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:38 PM
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Do you give permission tu use some of your pics to put on my website.
Of course! I can also send you higher resolution if you want... you have my e-mail address.
And indeed: I can make the best of it with a 13x7 snare. I really like its sound so far so it's not really a problem.

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She sounds like one too!
I think I actually don't even mind about the extra depth - I am currently pondering whether or not to have that fixed - I got a quote from a Dutch stave manufacturer but he advised me to try it out first and see if it's absolutely necessary.


That strainer butt in the top picture looks a little off - must have been a monday. I don't mind.
I would leave her be, as far as the depth is concerned. As for the butt plate, I'm sure you can easily straighten that out.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:54 PM
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I would leave her be, as far as the depth is concerned. As for the butt plate, I'm sure you can easily straighten that out.
I'm not too sure about that, but frankly I don't mind it being a little off. It does not disturb the functionality and nobody would notice...
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Huge congrats BP. Certainly a stunning looking drum. I echo calls for a sound clip. Don't worry about the extra 1/2", it's now a custom custom.
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I'm not too sure about that, but frankly I don't mind it being a little off. It does not disturb the functionality and nobody would notice...
I think it's only the fixing plate that could be a little of when you'll replace the wire you could make it more strait.
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most men beg for an extra half inch!


looks gorgeous though, i really like it! same for the rest of your kit :)
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I think it's only the fixing plate that could be a little of when you'll replace the wire you could make it more strait.
I'll have a look. In the worst case I'll attach the snares with strings rather than a ribbon, that'll solve any problem that could arise from it.

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looks gorgeous though, i really like it! same for the rest of your kit :)
Thanks Fugazi! Always nice to see a fellow Dutchman here :)
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:14 PM
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Wow, what a beauty!

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There is some love around here in the Netherlands :-)
The color fits really well to the rest of the kit!!

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There is some love around here in the Netherlands :-)
The color fits really well to the rest of the kit!!

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Really? Some people disagree... not that I care though :). I'd soonder change the look of the rest of the kit to match the unix than changing the unix to match the superstars.
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Really? Some people disagree... not that I care though :). I'd soonder change the look of the rest of the kit to match the unix than changing the unix to match the superstars.
I wouldn't do so much work to let the kit match your snare, I would send the snare to me, and it will match my kit too :-)

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I wouldn't do so much work to let the kit match your snare, I would send the snare to me, and it will match my kit too :-)

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Congratulations. That's a beautiful snare drum. The craftsmanship looks first class. Thanks for sharing.
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And the law is the law... lo!!!
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I can't translate it to English very good, but there is a Dutch proverb that says:
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Thanks everyone for the comments. I am indeed very happy that I finally have my snare drum. It looks even nicer in person and sounds awesome! I'm thinking about giving it a name... and have been staring at it for most of the evening. I also have a lot of experimenting to do with tuning. Poor neighbours...



Upon measuring I came to the conclusion that it is indeed 7 inches deep rather than the 6,5 I asked for. A bit of a shame, but I am sure I can find a solution for it with Unix.
Wow, what a gorgeous drum! I am hoping someday to have a Unix cocktail drum set and I want this exact design. So often, the finish hides the stave construction. I really like a drum that shows off its staves.
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Wow, what a gorgeous drum! I am hoping someday to have a Unix cocktail drum set and I want this exact design. So often, the finish hides the stave construction. I really like a drum that shows off its staves.
That's exactly why I wanted a striped shell and had it finished in satin gloss: much more natural and it shows off the stave construction. The difference in sound between a stave drum and a (proper) ply shell is not as big as people say it is (not for higher tunings anyway), but you also pay for the looks, and the details that are all to your specifications... it would be a shame to hide that under a big lacquer coat in my humble opinion.
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A pure classy look Big Philly!! love it!

I can hear the great sound just by watching it :-)
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I took it to band rehearsal last night, and the guys liked it. We compared it to the snare drum that was present in the practise space, which was a Pearl Sensitone 14x5 (or 5.5). What the Unix lacks is sensitivity - I think it's because of the depth. The sensitone is true to it's name: very sensitive, you get a great snare sound at the lowest of volumes. The Unix requires a little more power. Furthermore, the unix had a quicker decay if I hit it dead center.
Our rhythm guitarist said he could feel the Unix in his gut everytime I struck it... it certainly is a powerful sounding drum. But it's hard to tune the snare wires just right: not so tight as to lose sensitivity, but not so loose as to lose definition and get a lot of snare buzz. Also, generally tuning the unix is something I gotta practise on.
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I took it to band rehearsal last night, and the guys liked it. We compared it to the snare drum that was present in the practise space, which was a Pearl Sensitone 14x5 (or 5.5). What the Unix lacks is sensitivity - I think it's because of the depth. The sensitone is true to it's name: very sensitive, you get a great snare sound at the lowest of volumes. The Unix requires a little more power. Furthermore, the unix had a quicker decay if I hit it dead center.
Our rhythm guitarist said he could feel the Unix in his gut everytime I struck it... it certainly is a powerful sounding drum. But it's hard to tune the snare wires just right: not so tight as to lose sensitivity, but not so loose as to lose definition and get a lot of snare buzz. Also, generally tuning the unix is something I gotta practise on.
Keep in mind your snare is about the size of a lot of people's rack toms! The tradeoffs with a deeper shell are more power, volume and richness of tone, but at the expense of sensitivity. You can make up for somewhat with heads and tuning. If you have a shallow snare, it is very sensitive, but there's not much you can do to beef it up.

I have a 13 by 4 snare and I love its sensitivity. It's got more crack than a plumber's butt, but its sound is not as rich as a deeper drum's would be.
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I took it to band rehearsal last night, and the guys liked it. We compared it to the snare drum that was present in the practise space, which was a Pearl Sensitone 14x5 (or 5.5). What the Unix lacks is sensitivity - I think it's because of the depth. The sensitone is true to it's name: very sensitive, you get a great snare sound at the lowest of volumes. The Unix requires a little more power. Furthermore, the unix had a quicker decay if I hit it dead center.
Our rhythm guitarist said he could feel the Unix in his gut everytime I struck it... it certainly is a powerful sounding drum. But it's hard to tune the snare wires just right: not so tight as to lose sensitivity, but not so loose as to lose definition and get a lot of snare buzz. Also, generally tuning the unix is something I gotta practise on.
A stave or solid-ply drum is truly a different animal. In some situations it's better than others. They generally excel when mic'd up.
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Keep in mind your snare is about the size of a lot of people's rack toms! The tradeoffs with a deeper shell are more power, volume and richness of tone, but at the expense of sensitivity. You can make up for somewhat with heads and tuning. If you have a shallow snare, it is very sensitive, but there's not much you can do to beef it up.

I have a 13 by 4 snare and I love its sensitivity. It's got more crack than a plumber's butt, but its sound is not as rich as a deeper drum's would be.
I was considering buying a 12-strand Puresound Equaliser snare mat, but that would make it even less sensitive. It's actually about as sensitive as my 14x5.5 superstar snare (really not a bad snare, even in comparison with the Unix!), so I do get the impression that the stave construction is more sensitive than a ply construction.

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A stave or solid-ply drum is truly a different animal. In some situations it's better than others. They generally excel when mic'd up.
I got a gig coming up april 15th, it's probably gonna get mic'd there so I can't wait.

Also, we're probably gonna make some recordings with the band soon. I'll post some of it if we do.
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Some new pictures... I found the 20-strand wires to be a little harsh and I wanted some more tone (in fact I originally wanted 12-strand puresound EQ wires). So I took a pair of cutters and a file to the snare mat and turned it from a 20-strand to a 14-strand (I'll probably make that 12 soon enough). I also got a set of nylon straps at a fabric store, rather than the plastic ones it came with. Some pictures:









The last two pictures are pictures of my new Hardcase.
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