Die-Cast Hoops

drummerfluff · #1 02-25-2010, 06:54 PM

I've read several of older threads on this subject but couldn't find one with a link to a vendor selling replacement hoops. I've been able to find replacements for the snare, but no others.

Does anyone have a link they can share for a retailer who offers replacement die-cast hoops in all/various drum sizes?

Thanks for the help!

Fluff out

larryace · #2 02-25-2010, 07:02 PM

Pearl sells diecast hoops. Check out Interstate Music or Musicians Friend, that's where I get my die casts.

Mattiadrummer · #3 02-25-2010, 07:06 PM

...yes,Pearl or maybe Gibaltrar sell little bit cheap Die Cast ring...

drummerfluff · #4 02-25-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace

Pearl sells diecast hoops. Check out Interstate Music or Musicians Friend, that's where I get my die casts.

Did you outfit all of your toms with die-casts? What sizes do you have? Batter and resonant sides?

Sorry for all the questions, just gathering intel ;-)

Fluff out

JAKD-UP · #5 02-25-2010, 07:34 PM

Try drummaker.com. Cheapest place I have found and they are good hoops! Have them on all my toms and main snare.

drummerfluff · #6 02-25-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JAKD-UP

Try drummaker.com. Cheapest place I have found and they are good hoops! Have them on all my toms and main snare.

Excellent resource! Thank you!!

larryace · #7 02-25-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by drummerfluff

Did you outfit all of your toms with die-casts? What sizes do you have? Batter and resonant sides?

Sorry for all the questions, just gathering intel ;-)

Fluff out

Yes and no. If I could find black die casts for my DW kit, I'd get them. (I could probably hunt them down, Tama makes them, but it's not a priority for me in this economy) But my other sets (Pearl, Yamaha) have them top and bottom. (10, 12, 16" toms, I always use them on any snare, I really notice a diff)

I like the way the die casts tune, but seriously, there's not a lot of difference in the sound between the 2. The reason I can say this is I did an A/B comparison, (batter hoops only) recorded it, and posted the results here. No one could tell any difference. If anything the triple flanged sustained a microsecond longer, to my surprise, but no drastic audible difference at all. I like how they look, I like how they tune. I don't care if they add weight. I'll get them eventually for my DW's

cathartic_j · #8 02-25-2010, 10:38 PM

Drum Factory Direct

Precision Drum Company

American Music Drumparts

Ego Drum Supply

Drummaker

I think you can also find some Gretsch and Ludwig hoops at the bigger dealers (e.g. Sam Ash).

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryace

If I could find black die casts for my DW kit, I'd get them.

EDIT: Drum Foundry has them in 10", 12", 13", 14", and 16"...

MikeM · #9 02-25-2010, 10:45 PM

Make sure you weight the huge cost difference between die cast and triple flanged against the negligible benefits you'll see with them for toms.

Snares are a different story.

Die cast cost about 3 times as much as a good 2.3 mm triple flanged.

Steady Freddy · #10 02-25-2010, 11:02 PM

I like them on some snares. They focus the sound and shorten the sustain. Rim shots and cross sticking is also enhanced. I run them on both sides, batter side only, and snare side only.You can try different combos and see what works.

I have die cast hoops on my Yamaha kit and don't notice much of a difference on the toms. The Yamaha hoops are aluminum so they don't add much weight.

The zinc die cast hoops are heavy and may choke the toms. I don't think I'd bother with them on toms.

Solaris · #11 02-26-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by larryace

Yes and no. If I could find black die casts for my DW kit, I'd get them. (I could probably hunt them down, Tama makes them, but it's not a priority for me in this economy) But my other sets (Pearl, Yamaha) have them top and bottom. (10, 12, 16" toms, I always use them on any snare, I really notice a diff)

I like the way the die casts tune, but seriously, there's not a lot of difference in the sound between the 2. The reason I can say this is I did an A/B comparison, (batter hoops only) recorded it, and posted the results here. No one could tell any difference. If anything the triple flanged sustained a microsecond longer, to my surprise, but no drastic audible difference at all. I like how they look, I like how they tune. I don't care if they add weight. I'll get them eventually for my DW's

You can order diecast hoops from DW.

Les Ismore · #12 02-26-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by drummerfluff

I've read several of older threads on this subject but couldn't find one with a link to a vendor selling replacement hoops. I've been able to find replacements for the snare, but no others.

Does anyone have a link they can share for a retailer who offers replacement die-cast hoops in all/various drum sizes?

Thanks for the help!

Fluff out

Forget die cast, get the better performance and protect your bearing edges with S-HOOPS, they look cooler too.

MikeM · #13 02-26-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Les Ismore

Forget die cast, get the better performance and protect your bearing edges with S-HOOPS, they look cooler too.

I have a 402 Supra and didn't like the 1.6 mm hoops. I tried die cast zinc but thought they were a bit too much for that drum - lost a little of its Ludwig-ness, so I decided on 2.3 mm hoops. The question became std triple flange or S-Hoop. I flipped the proverbial coin and it came up S-Hoop top and bottom.

They're very nice and don't over do it like the die cast did on that snare, but they were noticeably more stout than the 1.6s. I had also experimented with regular 2.3s and the S-Hoops aren't that different in sound, but the playing feel is much easier on the hands. They're just easier to hit and get a nice stick saving rim shot out of.