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Old 02-09-2010, 01:09 AM
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Default Drum Studio Project 3.0

It's game on here in Foothill Ranch with the new studio build under way. It's going to be bigger, better, quieter with lots of new concepts to cover. And this time I get to keep it. The fist installment, Studio 3.0 Preflight coverage is now up. This week, we look at the new wall design and how to deal effectively with your city and/or local associations.


And if you want some detailed info on building a high performance sound proof room, or if you just need to have a good long cry, you can always check out the old coverage of Studio 2.0.

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Old 02-09-2010, 07:36 AM
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AWESOME !! Glad you got back on the horse and you're gonna do it again. I hope that the A-hole neighbor who called on you gets all pissy again because of the construction noise and this time there's nothing he can do about it. I think you should erect a giant middle finger in your front yard ! I think that i CANNOT wait to see the final product.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:01 AM
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Ok, I am interested in following this thread and seeing what happens along the way...best of luck with this build.
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Hey Brundlefly, interesting build! Onyour website you mentioned quietrock 540 as being cost prohibitive @ $140 per sheet. Have you considered the quietrock 410 product? it hangs just like 3/4" drywall and only costs about $35-40 per sheet. I used it on my control room wall and it works like a champ.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:07 PM
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Good luck to you.

I'm interested in the subject as well. It will be an interesting read, as it was the 2.0.

Thanks for sharing :)
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:27 PM
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I'm wondering: what happened to the materials you used in the previous build? Can you re-use much of it, or has it all gone to waste?

Best of luck with the new build!
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:53 PM
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All the best with the 3.0. I really appreciate your generosity by sharing you plans and pitfalls with us and read with interest. You took a debacle and turned it into something very positive. Very classy.
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That looks fantastic with obviously a ton of planning before the build. Good on you and the best of luck.
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Old 02-09-2010, 06:39 PM
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If you are considering QuietRock, you should also consider Supress. Supress weighs less, is easier to cut and is generally less expensive than QuietRock. www.supressproducts.com.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:01 PM
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Bloody Beautiful and exquisitely detailed.

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Old 02-09-2010, 09:06 PM
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Thanks a million for sharing this info. As someone who's been in architectural design-build for 20 some years I can appreciate the work you've done. I'm close to committing to my own studio project and, if you don't mind, I'm going to lift some of your ideas.

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Old 02-10-2010, 05:24 AM
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...if you don't mind, I'm going to lift some of your ideas.
Don't mind a bit. In fact, that is what I'm hoping people will do. Lift away!

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If you are considering QuietRock, you should also consider Supress. Supress weighs less, is easier to cut and is generally less expensive than QuietRock. www.supressproducts.com.
Aye, there might be cases where we swap Supress for QuietRock. But being lower weight may not be an advantage for me. We actually want to build the heaviest wall possible in order to drive down the sympathetic frequencies. If we end up doing a third inner layer, Supress might be a way for us to go because we will have an internal weight limitation due to the hat channels. Any idea what the cost differential is between Supress and QuietRock?

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I'm wondering: what happened to the materials you used in the previous build? Can you re-use much of it, or has it all gone to waste?

Best of luck with the new build!
Good question. I sort of glossed over this. We managed to recoup all of our isolation clips, all of our drywall screws, all of the cotton batting and about 3/4 of the MLV. About half the frame survived and we'll probably end up using that for stringers and other odds n' ends. Of course, the drywall and closed cell foam was a total loss, and this brings up what could easily have been another Pro Tip:

While Green Glue is a phenomenal product and should be a corner stone material in every build, keep in mind that whatever it touches will be instantly destroyed. Once you put Green Glue on drywall, or really any other surface, say goodbye because you are never going to get that crap off.

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Hey Brundlefly, interesting build! Onyour website you mentioned quietrock 540 as being cost prohibitive @ $140 per sheet. Have you considered the quietrock 410 product? it hangs just like 3/4" drywall and only costs about $35-40 per sheet. I used it on my control room wall and it works like a champ.
Yes, you are correct. They make less expensive stuff and all of their stuff appears to perform well. What I didn't mention, and should have, is that we are aiming for a wall that will deliver 80dB of reduction or more. So, we really need every layer to bring something big to the table.

If you compare the tests done by Quiet Solutions and Green Glue, one 510 sheet is roughly = to one 5/8" sheet rock + Green Glue, with the Green Glue wall outperforming QR's stuff in the low end. 510 is thinner and easier to install, but those things aren't of much benefit to my build since I have two experienced contractors on it. I'm still actually considering using all 540 ES inside. And I'm pretty certain that the control room wall will be easier done as a staggered wall with double THX. But all that stuff will come later when we do the inside. And the inside is going to be way more interesting this time around.
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:42 AM
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Any new developments coming along? I love reading your website. We haven't heard anything in a while though. You haven't hit any more major problems have you? (That was a terrible horror story what happened the first time around.)
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Old 03-01-2010, 04:03 AM
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It's been a few weeks, but we finally have some significant progress to talk about. Installment #2 is now up.
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:27 PM
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Thank you ever so much for posting this and your previous efforts of making, building and designing a studio for yourself. This is by far the most interesting blog I have ever read, it has provided me with many hours of interesting reading. Best of luck with the new build :)
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:15 AM
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Thanks for sharing, as always :)
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Old 03-23-2010, 04:45 PM
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Brundlefly,

I need an update...please.

I can't take the suspense!

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Old 03-23-2010, 05:08 PM
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Awesome, B. Glad to see you back at it.
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:28 PM
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This is seriously one of the best blogs I've read on anything... Very good information. Well written. Extremely good photos and visuals.

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Old 03-23-2010, 05:37 PM
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Looks like it's going to be sorted anyway.
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Old 03-28-2010, 08:50 PM
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Why no updates? Because everything has been bogged down in complex framing and other rather boring construction stuff. And that stuff is taking a long time to work through. But we finally finished the frame and well... you can see the rest here.
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this interests me greatly, very inspirational for the future. i love to see diagrams etc.
i hope it is going well! cheers.
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:46 AM
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Glad to see it is coming along. After seeing all of this (reading the first construction and its demise and now the rebuild), I first thought you were the underdog, now I am not so sure....
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:26 AM
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Could have told you about that pro-tip on keeping things simple and straightforward ;) Nevertheless a great project! Can't wait to see it finished!
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Hey Brundlefly,

Any updats for us? The wait between episodes is torturous.

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Any updats for us? The wait between episodes is torturous.

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It's best if he takes his time to get the best result and all that methinks.
Nah, if he screws up, we get another tutorial...it's much easier to learn on his dime..lol
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Old 04-20-2010, 12:18 AM
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You folks here have a knack for chiming in just as I'm in middle of writing up the next installment. This time around, we compare two competing hat channel clips, provide the low down on a special drywall product known as Supress, find a valid reason to make the new iPad a part of my studio design and I offer some high level advice on managing the unmanageable: freelance contractors.
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Old 04-20-2010, 02:12 AM
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Good update Brundle, i'm glad to see everything moving along smoothly!
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Aha! I finally managed to get ahead of your requests. The project is gathering steam as it hurdles toward its conclusion. It only took a week to generate enough stuff for a new installment. This time, we follow the installation of hat channels and sound board layer, fiddle about with the control room wall design, polish off a door frame and start in earnest on the ceiling drywall.
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Glad progress is picking up.. Getting anxious?
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Aha! I finally managed to get ahead of your requests. The project is gathering steam as it hurdles toward its conclusion. It only took a week to generate enough stuff for a new installment. This time, we follow the installation of hat channels and sound board layer, fiddle about with the control room wall design, polish off a door frame and start in earnest on the ceiling drywall.
Ok, time for an update. You've got to be damn near finished.

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Old 05-06-2010, 08:34 AM
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Damned near is right. And I'm damned near finished with what should be the second to last update. Look for that either tomorrow or possibly Friday. The final update will cover sound treatment and setting up my mammoth kit, which should start this weekend.

Back to tuning and polishing my kit for the big weekend!
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The last update before final inspection (and move in weekend!) is up. This week the final drywall gets hung, I discuss some of the finer points of Green Glue, we look at our flooring plan, find out how messy a garage can get and cringe at an unsightly butt crack shot.
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Thanks for the update. It's starting to look awesome. Can't wait until we see everything finished and set up.
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Hows the studio coming along. I think I speak for most of the community when I say we are anxiously awaiting the final outcome.
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Hows the studio coming along. I think I speak for most of the community when I say we are anxiously awaiting the final outcome.
It's essentially done, but there remain a few final touches. And while those are being worked out, I'm working on squeezing my kit into the new space. It's looking like the final update will land this weekend, including a time lapse sequence of my kit being assembled piece by piece.
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looking like the final update will land this weekend, including a time lapse sequence of my kit being assembled piece by piece.
Excited for ya, man! Not playing that beautiful kit for so long... it's been what, six or seven months? Agony!
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:19 AM
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Hold on...


Wait for it...


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