I miss Pollyanna

larryace · #1 12-28-2009, 04:09 PM

So I went on a cruise for a week, I come back, and where's Pollyanna? I'm really steamed about this....She is such a rich contributer, and she elevated this sausage fest to a place that was so much more enjoyable than before she joined....
I know what happened, her feelings were really hurt and I really just want to express my disgust about the outcome of the whole situation. She was like a glue that brought everyone together and, for me, made it a much happier family.

Let me get something straight here. We are all in the same boat here. If we tear down our brothers and sisters we are inflicting harm on ourselves. Her posts were my personal favorite part of these boards. I am genuinely mad that she was hurt. She in no way deserved that. I'm also really sad that she's noticeably absent from the threads, so much so, that I fear I may lose interest.

Maybe if enough people show her some support, she'll return.

I for one miss her terribly, and want her back.

She deserves an apology, not sure if that will happen, but a show of support for her is definitely in order.

I miss you Polly! Please come back!

frank0072 · #2 12-28-2009, 04:26 PM

I Polly gone? That's sad. It seems like people who post here eventually dissappear. That's probably why I don't post that much. I love Pollyanna though. Real DW-Forum-Love.

audiotech · #3 12-28-2009, 04:34 PM

I haven't been around here long enough to acquaint myself with Pollyanna or the circumstances that she no longer posts here. Anyway, any "contributor" who no longer posts is a loss to an established forum.

Dennis

#4 12-28-2009, 04:41 PM

Guess I missed something... What are you refering too?

jim_gregory · #5 12-28-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace

So I went on a cruise for a week, I come back, and where's Pollyanna? I'm really steamed about this....She is such a rich contributer, and she elevated this sausage fest to a place that was so much more enjoyable than before she joined....
I know what happened, her feelings were really hurt and I really just want to express my disgust about the outcome of the whole situation. She was like a glue that brought everyone together and, for me, made it a much happier family.

I'm a new guy and have no clue what happenned but I enjoyed Pollyanna's posts 100%. I was wondering where she got off to. She is a very positive person and I missed her before I even knew she was gone. Shame.

larryace · #6 12-28-2009, 04:52 PM

Hopefully she will come back. She is a very positive person. Thanks so far for everyone's support. I'm looking for a lot more and I know that we're not the only ones who liked her stuff.

Bernhard · #7 12-28-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace

I for one miss her terribly, and want her back.

She deserves an apology, not sure if that will happen, but a show of support for her is definitely in order.

I miss you Polly! Please come back!

Yes, we want our Polly back!!

Bernhard

warrier1 · #8 12-28-2009, 05:40 PM

I dont know what happened in this situation, but if she left because of a certain answer or question she said, thats wrong, sometimes thats just the way a person feels about, or maybe they dont know what the answer is. I know I have posted things, either no one replys with something, or they tell me look in the search, i do , but sometimes it isnt there, Pollyana should come back, I miss her replys, as a matter of fact I like to read everybodys versions of a subject, (ex: im looking for a brushes dvd, someone told me to get The art of playing brushes, here is a dvd 7hrs long, a bunch of different players on it, they do a song, same song, and they all play it totally different, each version worked well) I'll shut up now Pollyanna PLEASE COME BACK.

Deltadrummer · #9 12-28-2009, 05:47 PM

I think Polly is a tough cookie and if she isn't been posting it is because she is full of holiday cheer and visiting commitments.

They say distance makes the heart grow fonder. :)

Several people have come and gone here who I feel were valuable posters. Others don't post as much. I can see how people get tired of the power struggle that internet posting entails. It gets old quick.

Ian Williams · #10 12-28-2009, 06:20 PM

Pollyanna is the spice (salt and pepper) for the forum. Also, Colleagues such as: Jon Cable, That Guy and many others, are missed as well.

For whatever reason, (us) drummers must stick together.

Thaard · #11 12-28-2009, 09:53 PM

Yes, lets all yell COME BACK POLLY!

larryace · #12 12-28-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian Williams

Pollyanna is the spice (salt and pepper) for the forum. Also, Colleagues such as: Jon Cable, That Guy and many others, are missed as well.

For whatever reason, (us) drummers must stick together.

Right on Ian, I do miss That Guy and Jon as well. Also, if you notice, Keep it Simple has bailed on us too, (not permanently I hope) another tragedy stemming from the same place. Polly is also one of the rare females here. To have a point of view that is not coming from a male is in itself valuable as hell. We're way top heavy on male opinions here, and need to treat our female members with a little extra respect, just as it is in "real life".

eddiehimself · #13 12-28-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nhzoso

Guess I missed something... What are you refering too?

Yes, i'm wondering the seyam thing too. I seriously hope this website doesn't end up descending into chaos like basschat. I really think what pollyana says is great and i found her really helpful during my downer about drumming. I hope she can see past whatever was said and that for anyone on here who is a wanker there are about 1800 nice lovely people which is why this is the only forum where i'm not afraid to go on the off topic section lol.

eddiehimself · #14 12-28-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace

Right on Ian, I do miss That Guy and Jon as well. Also, if you notice, Keep it Simple has bailed on us too, (not permanently I hope) another tragedy stemming from the same place. Polly is also one of the rare females here. To have a point of view that is not coming from a male is in itself valuable as hell. We're way top heavy on male opinions here, and need to treat our female members with a little extra respect, just as it is in "real life".

I remember KIS saying he had some awful trouble with his mother having a stroke so he's probably got a lot of other stuff on his mind atm. Top bloke though, seeing out the delivery of stuff to our cuban mate leo despite everything that was happening with him. Anyone know what happened with that stuff btw?

Pocket-full-of-gold · #15 12-28-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by eddiehimself

I remember KIS saying he had some awful trouble with his mother having a stroke so he's probably got a lot of other stuff on his mind atm.

Yep, read several posts where KIS mentioned an illness in the family. He did seem put off by how Polly was treated, but I hope he'll be back. Fingers crossed for Poll too. They are two people who's posts I never fail to read, they both add loads to the forum, both are sorely missed and I hope they'll be back on deck soon.

harryconway · #16 12-28-2009, 10:41 PM

Well, the whole train wreck is here: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ght=money+beat in the money beat debate. Post 131/132, as far as I se it, is where the train left the track.

eddiehimself · #17 12-28-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by harryconway

Well, the whole train wreck is here: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ght=money+beat in the money beat debate. Post 131/132, as far as I se it, is where the train left the track.

I thought it would be that one. That was a mofo of a thread.

harryconway · #18 12-28-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eddiehimself

That was a mofo of a thread.

Yeah, I guess, whatever that's supposed to mean.

bobdadruma · #19 12-28-2009, 11:15 PM

She indicated to me that she had some personal issues to attend to. She will be back soon to straighten us out!

eddiehimself · #20 12-28-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by harryconway

Yeah, I guess, whatever that's supposed to mean.

It's a shortened version of a certain word, erm yeah that one. Okay well reading through it, it does look pretty bad the exchanges between KIS, Polly and Average. Considering his username, he sure does seem to think he's better than a lot of other people on here from what i'm reading. That's my personal opinion. I thought that was pretty pathetic that he starts dissing on her for calling people by their username, i guess it makes some people feel uncomfortable like they're worried about having an emotional attachment to someone they are having a conversation with on the internet or w/e.

larryace · #21 12-28-2009, 11:30 PM

Please, this thread is in support of Polly, not rehashing everyone's opinions or placing blame. If you enjoyed her, tell us why.

jim_gregory · #22 12-28-2009, 11:45 PM

[quote=eddiehimself;646419 I thought that was pretty pathetic that he starts dissing on her for calling people by their username[/QUOTE]
I hate being called by my username. Wait! Nevermind.
A little levity helps sometimes.

harryconway · #23 12-29-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by eddiehimself

It's a shortened version of a certain word, ....

Yes, an "english colloquialism", I'm very familiar with.

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Originally Posted by eddiehimself

Okay well reading through it, it does look pretty bad the exchanges.....

Indeed. Pretty bad. 3 on 1. 4 on 1. Internet bullyism at it's finest.

bobdadruma · #24 12-29-2009, 12:43 AM

Poly, Bobdadruma want's you back! You are a friend to me. I always look forward to reading your posts and exchanging thoughts with you.

Average · #25 12-29-2009, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by eddiehimself

... Average. Considering his username, he sure does seem to think he's better than a lot of other people on here from what i'm reading.

I am the worst player on the boards. I was being kind to name myself Average. Good enough or would you like more? How about this - I can't even play drums. I walk into a room and the drums run away. More? Furthermore, everyone on here is smarter and better looking than me. Everyone has better teeth than me (including the British posters).

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I thought that was pretty pathetic that he starts dissing on her for calling people by their username, i guess it makes some people feel uncomfortable like they're worried about having an emotional attachment to someone they are having a conversation with on the internet or w/e.

Never happened. I think you misread the exchange completely. I've never asked her (or any other posters) to leave and I was not referring to her specifically in any of my posts. If you read the thread, look at post #212. I don't know how I can say it more specifically than that.

It has been said, in this thread that someone should apologize. It won't be me. First, I wasn't talking about her. If I apologized to her, I would have to lie in the apology. Second, I didn't say anything about any specific posters, just specific behaviors that I have seen on drummerworld. Again, read the thread and you will see all of this posted. What I said about the specific behaviors was true and needed to be said. I won't take it back.

Fishnmusicn · #26 12-29-2009, 01:56 AM

I didn't get deep enough into the threads as I usually only check out certain ones, but I was aware of Polly's absence and it made me wonder (Polly is also my sisters name).

I always enjoyed her input and it made visiting here a great pleasure as she had so many interesting and very valid viewpoints.

She was very reasurring to me when I was going through my doubts and I know I'm not the only one.

I sincerely hope she is taking a brief respite or holiday of some sort, and will be back as strong and creative as ever. I miss you too Polly - c'mon back soon now ya hear?

Fishnmusicn

Funky Crêpe · #27 12-29-2009, 02:24 AM

i don't know at happened, but not posting on a forum because of one arguement, well it seems as though she is having a hissy fit really......if you love a forum, then you don't let the idiots bring you down, just stop looking where they are commenting!
but i do remember some of her posts, and they were good ones

( i fear that i may get a backlash from the whole hissy fit comment, but i stand by it!)

Ian Williams · #28 12-29-2009, 03:07 AM

I am with you, mate.

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Originally Posted by larryace

Right on Ian, I do miss That Guy and Jon as well. Also, if you notice, Keep it Simple has bailed on us too, (not permanently I hope) another tragedy stemming from the same place. Polly is also one of the rare females here. To have a point of view that is not coming from a male is in itself valuable as hell. We're way top heavy on male opinions here, and need to treat our female members with a little extra respect, just as it is in "real life".

alparrott · #29 12-29-2009, 03:16 AM

Come back, Polly. *snf*

bobdadruma · #30 12-29-2009, 03:33 AM

I would like to add this. If Polly left because of any of you, and your buttheadedness, I hope that you are big enough to email or PM her and apologize.
Polly is one of the guys, but you have to always remember that she is a lady. You can't go bashing her around like you do your drinking buddies!

ANIMALBEATS · #31 12-29-2009, 04:08 AM

pft, i read that whole thing.......... im miss anyone that battles for good.

Pocket-full-of-gold · #32 12-29-2009, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosphorus

i don't know at happened, but not posting on a forum because of one arguement, well it seems as though she is having a hissy fit really......if you love a forum, then you don't let the idiots bring you down, just stop looking where they are commenting!
but i do remember some of her posts, and they were good ones

( i fear that i may get a backlash from the whole hissy fit comment, but i stand by it!)

No backlash fom me Bosphorus, but I will say, I'm not sure it can be veiwed that simplistically. For mine, there indeed was a 'gang up' mentality (I'm not trying to take away from the opinions expressed here, just the way they very much seemed to single Polly out). I for one, regret not coming to her defense. I had only made one comment on the thread and didn't feel it was my place. I won't make that mistake again next time I see a valued member attacked. The thing I love about this forum is the differing opinions, but surely these can be expressed without a perceived attack on any particular member?

Personally speaking, I thought it was a great shame for her to be steamrolled by a member who, as far as I have read, suffered a similar experience on the forums. After being on the receiving end, how does one then turn straight around and do the same?

theindian · #33 12-29-2009, 05:57 AM

I don't really think there was a gang up on anyone. A few disagreements of opinions, that might have gone into a personal level, and maybe some rude posts...but its an online forum. People are going to disagree with you no matter what, and sometime they will be rude.

If I ran away every time some told me I was wrong in a rude manner, I would have to basically end my life. That sucks if someones feeling got hurt but once again, its not like any realistic damage occured. I have no strong feeling for the person in question either way. I'm just saying come one people lets get a grip and realize what the reality of the situation is.

Deltadrummer · #34 12-29-2009, 05:58 AM

Now reading over the discussion I see that she did decide to leave. Good for her. :)

That was a discussion I stayed out of. I think a big part of the problem is that these discussions get into some theoretical realm that is all bull dinky. I have spent enough time in graduate school to know that it all becomes bull dinky after a while, it makes no sense and people make a living doing it. And I'm guilty of it. But wise to it at the same time.

Truth of the matter is many of my favorite drummers admittedly have bad technique but great feel. You don't need to do a lot of complex stuff when backing up a song. Wynton Marsalis didn't destroy jazz. Punk didn't destroy rock music. Pop music today is okay, no better of worse off than it ever was. Seth isn't over-marketing his product. Smooth jazz is jazz. There's nothing wrong with technical development for its own sake. The list go on . . .

I often wonder if we get involved in these discussions because there is some puritanical streak in us that seeks some sort of idealized perfection.

DrewTheShoe · #35 12-29-2009, 06:16 AM

While she was a good contribution to the forum, I personally think this entire thing is getting blown out of proportion. The debate escalated to argument, and one party decided to just leave. Sure, she'll be missed by some but honestly, there are plenty of other posters that are just as insightful, probably more so, the only difference is that they have testes.

I mean, DW is just a forum, and she's just a poster in it. Is it really worth all the hullabaloo, or is DW starting to get a little caught up in itself?

Concrete Pete · #36 12-29-2009, 07:03 AM

Hey Pollyanna,

Come on back girl, we miss and love ya!

Hope everything is OK with you.

Cheers,
C. P.

Steady Freddy · #37 12-29-2009, 07:14 AM

Pollys gotten herself into some jams on this forum before.

This strikes me as a desperate move to get attention. When the debate didn't go the way she had hoped, she threatened to leave. Cry me a friggin river. Whatever?

Polly, We've talked about this before, right?

Average comes off with a condescending tone at times. The hehehe's come off just as badly. Stick with LOL or something.

Again, Whatever.

harryconway · #38 12-29-2009, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DrewTheShoe

..... I personally think this entire thing is getting blown out of proportion.

No, read post #1. Last 2 sentences.

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Originally Posted by keep it simple

I know this will divide the forum, that's why I've posted this. Let's get it on!

It did exactly that. Like locking 2 cats in a closet, that you know hate each other, and then be supprised when the "outcome" isn't pretty.

nocTurnal · #39 12-29-2009, 09:34 AM

Pretty pretty Pollyanna.

JT1 · #40 12-29-2009, 11:21 AM

That thread should never ended up as it has i think it all got blown out of proportion, when i first read the post that kicked it all of yes I agree with him because some drummers become deluded and i have seen it, drummers with feel but little technical ability will knock drummers with tremendous technical ability but little feel which is wrong! I mentioned that my favourite drummers are drummers who have a lot of feel but also an adequate technical ability to convey something in music. However no one in that thread mentioned anything of the sort. I stated which one i preferred not which one is known to be best as a fact and i certainly didn't see any drummer proclaiming otherwise. Therefore i feel the comment was completely out of place. No drummers on that thread had made it into a chops vs groove debate, simplicity vs complexity had creeped in but only slightly. Even so, if someone had subtly tried to make it into a chops vs groove debate but no other member had noticed, the comment would have been better off unwritten because that drew attention to it, and it all fell apart from there. As a result we have lost 2 very respected members. I want you back Polly, you were the first member to really have a decent conversation with me on here and i feel i have learnt a lot through you. Your contributions are always valued highly and your joyful attitude really does brighten up this forum. HURRY UP AND COME BACK!!!!