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Old 12-06-2009, 03:49 PM
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Well, my kit has received a complete overhaul, and most of it has been replaced. This is how it used to look, but after getting rid of the rack, replacing the cymbals and snare, adding another floor tom and some electronics, it has morphed into a totally different beast! This kit is made to rock, and rock is precisely what it does!

Pictures are taken in our rehearsal room, so I apologise for the mess :-)

Front view:




Seen from my perspective:




The electronics rig:


The Roland SPD-S, which takes care of our live sampling needs:


The percussion table, which houses the mixer (used to control my in-ear mix) and trusty metronome:


My in-ear monitors, a pair of Shure E2C's:


My sticks. Time to get another 12-pack soon, hehe:


Specs!

Drums:
- Kit: Sonor Force 3005
- Finish: Autumn High Gloss
- Rack tom: 12x10
- Floor toms: 14x14 and 16x16
- Kick: 22x17,5
- Snare: 14x6,5 Pearl Sensitone Steel

Cymbals:
- Hihat: 14" Meinl Byzance Traditional Medium
- Ride: 20" Meinl Byzance Traditional Medium
- Crash #1: 18" Meinl Byzance Traditional Thin
- Crash #2: 18" Meinl Byzance Traditional Medium Thin
- China: 18" Wuhan Lion

Electronics:
- Sampler: Roland SPD-S
- Mixer: Behringer Xenyx 502 (used to control my in-ear monitor mix)
- Metronome: Boss DB-60
- In-ear monitors: Shure E2C

Hardware:
- Stands: Gibraltar 6609 x 5
- Double pedal: Pearl P2002-C Eliminator
- Hihat stand: Pearl H-2000 "Eliminator"
- Snare stand: Gibraltar GI-9606
- Percussion table: Gibraltar SC-SAT
- Seat: Gibraltar 9608 Round Vinyl

Sticks and stuff:
- Main sticks: Regal Tip 5B Wide
- Rods: Regal Tip Blasticks
- Brushes: Unknown brand, but they work nicely for my limited brush needs

Heads:
- Snare batter: Evans EC Reverse Dot
- Snare reso: Evans Hazy 300
- Tom batter: Evans EC2 Coated
- Tom reso: Evans G1 Clear
- Kick batter: Evans EMAD Clear
- Kick reso: Evans EQ3 Black
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Old 12-06-2009, 04:43 PM
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Kule trommer! Er in ears'a bra ell?
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Old 12-06-2009, 04:58 PM
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Kit looks great. Clean & ready for action. Listened to some of your tracks on Myspace. Good stuff with suitably "in yer face" drumming. My kinda vibe!
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:54 PM
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Nice clean set-up, and beautiful drums!

I listened to your MySpace tracks; indeed very rock!
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:29 PM
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Awesome looking kit! Form and function definitely go hand in hand here :)
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Old 12-06-2009, 11:05 PM
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Loving that kit. Very tidy setup and I love the Byzance cymbals!!!!
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:24 AM
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Awesome looking kit! Form and function definitely go hand in hand here :)
Yup, this kit is designed both for a big rock sound, and for easy breakdown and setup. I still need to get memory locks for my floor tom legs, since they can be a bit of a hassle to set up right, but other than that this is a great kit to play. It's also very scalable, so if the stage or drum riser is very small, I can get rid of the 14" tom and the china stand and have a very compact setup.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:25 PM
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How do you find the Shure E2Cs? Looking at getting a setup similar to yours soon for the band, as we're writing more songs with programmed pieces in them.
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:35 PM
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How do you find the Shure E2Cs? Looking at getting a setup similar to yours soon for the band, as we're writing more songs with programmed pieces in them.
Considering they're the most inexpensive of Shure's in-ear monitors (designed for live use), I think they're great! Good fit, and they don't fall out. The lower frequencies leave a little to be desired, but overall they're good monitors.

I hope to get some custom moulds for them at some point, but there's no rush as of yet.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:39 PM
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Dont you need a limiter for those in ear-monitors?

and if you got it, what brand do you use?
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:29 PM
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Dont you need a limiter for those in ear-monitors?

and if you got it, what brand do you use?
No, I don't run anything through the mixer that can feed back, so no need for a limiter. I only run the sampler and metronome through it.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:54 AM
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Nice setup, loving the cymbals.
How do you like the Crash and Hats?
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:12 PM
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Nice setup, loving the cymbals.
How do you like the Crash and Hats?
I love them, and the ride too. The crashes have this amazing trashy/china-esque quality to them which helps them cut even though they're pretty dark, and the hats are quite simply the best I've ever played (and I never thought I'd like anything better than New Beats). If I had one complaint, it would be that the ride bell isn't loud or defined enough, and that the ride builds up a tad too much wash when I play it normally. However, I also crash and crash-ride it a lot, and it's perfect for that, so that was always going to be a compromise.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:10 PM
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Bumping this to say that we've got confirmation from producer Sylvia Massy at RadioStar Studios in California. We're heading there to record a new album in february. Woo!

Won't be bringing this kit though, that'd simply cost way too much (and she's got tons of great equipment available there anyway).
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:45 PM
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love the kit, one tiny suggestion tho. you should try to raise the front of your bass drum off of the floor, you will probably hear a better difference.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:01 PM
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love the kit, one tiny suggestion tho. you should try to raise the front of your bass drum off of the floor, you will probably hear a better difference.
A better difference compared to what?

The reason I keep the front of the kick on the floor (keeping the shell itself parallell to the floor) is because the tension it puts on the hoop and shell simply can not be good for the drum or the sound. The kick drum pedal is obviously parallell to the floor, which means that the clamp mechanism on the pedal is trying to keep the kick drum flat as well. If I angle the kick upwards, it will cause unnecessary stress on the hoop and drum.

Bob Gatzen explains it better than I ever could in this video (about a minute into it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8Q12mKYxI
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:34 PM
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^^ But if the front hoop is resting on the floor, then the drum shell can't be parallel to the floor, can it? Placing a kick pedal on the back hoop raises that end about a centimeter off the floor, because the pedal base is underneath the hoop. So, to make your shell parallel, then the front hoop should be about a centimeter off the floor as well. That's all you need to give that extra resonance that Budiesel is talking about.
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A better difference compared to what?

The reason I keep the front of the kick on the floor (keeping the shell itself parallell to the floor) is because the tension it puts on the hoop and shell simply can not be good for the drum or the sound. The kick drum pedal is obviously parallell to the floor, which means that the clamp mechanism on the pedal is trying to keep the kick drum flat as well. If I angle the kick upwards, it will cause unnecessary stress on the hoop and drum.

Bob Gatzen explains it better than I ever could in this video (about a minute into it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8Q12mKYxI
Your pedal is lifting the batter-side up about 1" off of the floor (in general) - so you should prop the reso-side up as much to be even w/ the batter-side. It's a tiny detail but it definitely makes a difference.
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:34 AM
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The front hoop isn't actually touching the floor, it's just the thickness of the drum rug that might make it appear that way :-)
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your kit looks amazing.

I have a sonor 3007 which looks fab too. sonor make great kits!
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:53 PM
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They definitely do. I'd love to get a German-made Sonor (the Force kits are made in China), but the price jumps up a fair bit between the Chinese and the German kits. Here's hoping :-)
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I just have to say, i love that cymbal setup. Are the byzance traditionals very bright?
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:21 AM
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I just have to say, i love that cymbal setup. Are the byzance traditionals very bright?
Definitely not, they're pretty dark, and very trashy compared to the "normal" Zildjian, Sabian and Paiste models. I personally love them, but they're definitely different. I recommend you check them out though, you might fall in love with them just like I did :-)
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:42 AM
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Definitely not, they're pretty dark, and very trashy compared to the "normal" Zildjian, Sabian and Paiste models. I personally love them, but they're definitely different. I recommend you check them out though, you might fall in love with them just like I did :-)
Ha i was actually hoing you would say they were dark.

Ive been looking for some cymbals that sound dark but could project for rock.

So far these, and sabian HHxs and zildjian K customs (which I am not a fan of) are the only lines a can find
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Ha i was actually hoing you would say they were dark.

Ive been looking for some cymbals that sound dark but could project for rock.

So far these, and sabian HHxs and zildjian K customs (which I am not a fan of) are the only lines a can find
I personally love K Customs and don't like HHX much at all, but the Byzance cymbals beat them all. The hihats in particular are absolutely divine! If I could fault them at all, it would be that the bell of the Medium Ride is a little weak, and the cymbal builds up a lot of wash. That's the tradeoff for having a ride that has great crashability though, it's practically impossible to get it all. All in all, it's a great ride.
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