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Old 10-06-2009, 04:48 AM
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I am in need of new heads for my bass drum

its a 20 by 20

i am in a band and we do not mike for gigs. I like a nice low sound with alot of attack for my bass drum. I was just wondering if an EMAD 2 clear with a EMAD resonant bass head with a 5 inch port would be a good combo for me.

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Old 10-06-2009, 05:31 AM
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I recently put this combo on a bass drum and they completely blew me away. I used to be a die-hard Remo fan, but I have been converted (for the bass drum at least). The muffling system is interesting and works great, although I still threw a pillow in there to top it off. Besides sounding awesome, the reso also looks pretty sweet too!

I recommend these for anyone playing rock especially.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:47 AM
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I am in need of new heads for my bass drum

its a 20 by 20

i am in a band and we do not mike for gigs. I like a nice low sound with alot of attack for my bass drum. I was just wondering if an EMAD 2 clear with a EMAD resonant bass head with a 5 inch port would be a good combo for me.

thanks
As far as running live sound on this combination, you will neeed to reverse your thinking on the EQ. These heads have alot of click to them and not much in the way of mids. I still use the tried and true Powerstroke 3 /Ambassador front with a port. Sound great for anything - fat, round with great articulation!


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Old 10-06-2009, 08:26 AM
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Dude, it's a 20x20, you don't need to muffle it anymore, or make it any punchier. If anything, you want to enhance the resonance a bit, so you get that nice punchy sound with a good low end kick. I'd try Powerstrokes or the Evans EQ series.
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:35 PM
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so i should hook up an EQ3 with a EQ1 reso?
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What you *should* do is whatever you like. It's just *my* personal opinion that a massive amount of muffling on a 20" drum will dry it out so much as to make it pointless. But *I* also don't like the clicky, slappy, plastic sound a lot of metal drummers go for, so take my opinion with a grain of salt and perspective.

If I were rigging up a 20" bass drum, An EQ3 over an EQ1 would be something I'd probably do. Unported first, to see if I liked the sound. If not, then I'd cut out a hole and stick in a Holz hole protector.
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:32 PM
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Powerstroke 3 front and back, no port....
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:13 AM
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Powerstroke 3 front and back, no port....
Ditto from me on this. I have an 18" BD outfitted as described above and a 22" with an offset port on the front but no other muffling. They both sound golden.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:57 AM
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What you *should* do is whatever you like. It's just *my* personal opinion that a massive amount of muffling on a 20" drum will dry it out so much as to make it pointless. But *I* also don't like the clicky, slappy, plastic sound a lot of metal drummers go for, so take my opinion with a grain of salt and perspective.

If I were rigging up a 20" bass drum, An EQ3 over an EQ1 would be something I'd probably do. Unported first, to see if I liked the sound. If not, then I'd cut out a hole and stick in a Holz hole protector.
Agreed but the main problem is that unless you have a really good sound man, most average enigineers just don't know what to do with this! Thia why you still see the old pillow in the bass drum, unless the guy knows that this is the sound they are going for in the first place, and I work with a kit like this about twice a month and does sound great for the application!

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are you referring to the EQ3 over EQ1 is great for sound?
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Old 10-13-2009, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: bass drum heads

I've also got a 20x20 bass and looking for new heads.
What is the difference between the different heads in the EQ range?
what about Aquarian? i've never used them but heard good things
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:54 PM
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I am in need of new heads for my bass drum

its a 20 by 20

i am in a band and we do not mike for gigs. I like a nice low sound with alot of attack for my bass drum. I was just wondering if an EMAD 2 clear with a EMAD resonant bass head with a 5 inch port would be a good combo for me.

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Powerstroke 3 front and back, no port....
Chaos_Inferno has it right.

There's no need for a port if you're not miking, and furthermore you need all the sustain you can get out of the drum to be heard unmiked. Ports lessen sustain.

Avoid excessively premuffled heads. If it must be Evans, try the EQ4, the PS3 equivalent. Use nothing in the drum and tune it higher than JAW--high enough to develop some sustain. Tune both heads to the same pitch, for the same reason.

This sounds nothing like the short "thud" you hear on records, but a bass drum that goes "thud" is usually inaudible with loud music unmiked. Tune for booom. You'll hear the sustain at the kit but the audience won't--they'll just hear a louder drum.
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Chaos_Inferno has it right.

There's no need for a port if you're not miking, and furthermore you need all the sustain you can get out of the drum to be heard unmiked. Ports lessen sustain.

Avoid excessively premuffled heads. If it must be Evans, try the EQ4, the PS3 equivalent. Use nothing in the drum and tune it higher than JAW--high enough to develop some sustain. Tune both heads to the same pitch, for the same reason.

This sounds nothing like the short "thud" you hear on records, but a bass drum that goes "thud" is usually inaudible with loud music unmiked. Tune for booom. You'll hear the sustain at the kit but the audience won't--they'll just hear a louder drum.
PS3 equivalent to Evans EQ4 might be the PS4.


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Old 10-17-2009, 01:08 AM
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PS3 equivalent to Evans EQ4 might be the PS4.


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It's easy to get these confused.

PS3 = single-ply w/control ring
PS4 = two-ply w/control ring

EQ3 = two-ply w/control ring
EQ4 = single-ply w/control ring

Thus,

PS3 equivalent is EQ4; PS4 equivalent is EQ3.
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:49 AM
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That's actually quite useful info. Thanks for posting it!
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:57 PM
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very usefull! Cheers drumtechdad PS3 or EQ4 for it is for me
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