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Old 10-02-2009, 11:23 PM
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Default foot operated wood-block

sort of new territory for me here

With woodblock I know there are the LP-style kick pedal beater options and I've seen a few simpler pedal and dowel type things (though i couldn't name one) for this.

anyone have experience/insight into the solutions

for example :
does the bass drum kick pedal work pretty well or is the rate& throw kind of strange?

beater choice?

can you get off the block crisply enough with the pedal& dowel stuff to get a nice clave sound?

(just some example questions to kind of guide the convo )

- I mean are there issues, opportunities or pitfalls that might not be apparent to me, being a noob to that?
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: foot operated wood-block

I don't get what you're asking...

If you're wondering about how to piece together a foot operated woodblock, then I'd recommend getting a Gajate Bracket and an LP Jam Block, along with a bass drum pedal with a plastic beater. The Jam Blocks sound more like woodblocks than claves, though. The blue Jam Block sounds most like a pair of claves, IMO...
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Old 10-03-2009, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: foot operated wood-block

I have used the LP bracket and made my own, which are smaller and easier to use. See my set for photos and descriptions. I am now using a big dowel mounted on a beater rod, a Vater product, to hit the block and it sounds very good.

Don't expect to get the kind of rebound you get with a bass drum. Foot percussion is a whole different feel but it adds a lot to your playing.
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Old 10-03-2009, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: foot operated wood-block

I don't get what you're asking...

Hey! thanks for checking in -- sorry for being unclear - the question is a pretty general one (for the simple reason there may be issues I haven't considered)

my question isn't "how do I?" so much as it is
"have you found any issues with a particular implementation? "

I could, for instance, use a mounting bracket and just play with a typical kick pedal and beater
OR
I've seen a few folks use (and some of these have looked homebrew) - essentially a dowel attached to a springloaded pedal...sort of a direct-drive with no linkage and very little mechanical advantage (or, I suppose mech disadvantage being a 3rd class lever)

Deathmetalconga has something that looks somewhere in between - it looks like he uses a fairly standard style pedal, but with a dowel-like wood beater


so

My question is basically "given your experiences -- what can you say about the approach you are using? is there an upside? s there a downside you can live with?"


ADDITIONAL :whoops ! looks like deathmetal just checked in

thanks for the responses guys
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Old 10-03-2009, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: foot operated wood-block

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I don't get what you're asking...

Hey! thanks for checking in -- sorry for being unclear - the question is a pretty general one (for the simple reason there may be issues I haven't considered)

my question isn't "how do I?" so much as it is
"have you found any issues with a particular implementation? "

I could, for instance, use a mounting bracket and just play with a typical kick pedal and beater
OR
I've seen a few folks use (and some of these have looked homebrew) - essentially a dowel attached to a springloaded pedal...sort of a direct-drive with no linkage and very little mechanical advantage (or, I suppose mech disadvantage being a 3rd class lever)

Deathmetalconga has something that looks somewhere in between - it looks like he uses a fairly standard style pedal, but with a dowel-like wood beater


so

My question is basically "given your experiences -- what can you say about the approach you are using? is there an upside? s there a downside you can live with?"


ADDITIONAL :whoops ! looks like deathmetal just checked in

thanks for the responses guys
You may be thinking of the Hasenfutz pedal, intended for practice but also good for foot percussion. I would like to try one of those.

As for my own approach, it was worked well for me. I use basic DW 5000s for foot percussion pedals, nothing too exotic. I made my own mounting brackets to conserve space and weight. I just set them up and there's nothing to adjust. For a wood block, I would suggest using a plastic or wood beater.I wouldn't use a typical hardware store dowel, unless it were some really hard wood. I think felt wouldn't give you enough character or projection. The dowel beater I use was purpose-built by Vater so it stands up.

The downside is that these pedals take up a fair amount of room in transport and breaking them down is still a hassle. You may also need to modify or adjust your hihat to get it all to fit.

What are you thinking of doing with foot percussion?
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Old 10-03-2009, 03:46 AM
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What are you thinking of doing with foot percussion?

besides utterly fail to impress my Brazilian sister-in-law?

eh, well, basically perform an amazingly solid a clave while I blaze through intricate polyrhythmic figures on my toms wowing friends and enemies alike showing complete limb indepenence

OK, or just make a sorry attempt at holding a clave with my foot on something besides my hats while I flail around on hand percussion and annoy wife and dogs
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:01 AM
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sort of new territory for me here

With woodblock I know there are the LP-style kick pedal beater options and I've seen a few simpler pedal and dowel type things (though i couldn't name one) for this.

anyone have experience/insight into the solutions

for example :
does the bass drum kick pedal work pretty well or is the rate& throw kind of strange?

beater choice?

can you get off the block crisply enough with the pedal& dowel stuff to get a nice clave sound?

(just some example questions to kind of guide the convo )

- I mean are there issues, opportunities or pitfalls that might not be apparent to me, being a noob to that?
I use the Pearl clamp and an LP block. No issues thus far after some years.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:26 AM
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I don't get what you're asking...

If you're wondering about how to piece together a foot operated woodblock, then I'd recommend getting a Gajate Bracket and an LP Jam Block, along with a bass drum pedal with a plastic beater. The Jam Blocks sound more like woodblocks than claves, though. The blue Jam Block sounds most like a pair of claves, IMO...
I have a similar setup and it works great! Jam Blocks and Blast Blocks are really sturdy complared to wood blocks which may be important to you if you gig a lot (or if you have inquisitive preschoolers stepping on your pedals!)

For a photo of my Blast Block setup, see: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...rumskull+conga

Take care

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