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Old 09-02-2009, 08:29 PM
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Default HELP! I just bought a Remo Clear Ambassador as my snare resonant and..!

It sounds just wrong... I sounds like crap.. :S

What did I do wrong, I was told everywhere that it was an awesome resonant head, I saw videos with drums using that head and sounded awesome but mine just sounds like crap... I had the stock one (which sounded really nice) until now and I just replaced my head with this one, tuned it, everything is fine expect it sounds like crap!

Maybe I did something wrong or is there any type of Remo Amb. Clear heads that are not for resonance?

On the box it says AMBASSADOR, Clear, Batter, 14". I asked the guy at the music store why there was no AMBASSADOR, Clear, Resonant, 14" and he told me that Remo didn't do Resonant heads because the Batter one is made for resonance too. Maybe he didn't know what he was talking about or something..

Anyway I need help with this. By the way sorry for my english, I'm french-canadian! :P

Edit: http://www.remo.com/portal/products/...r+and+Resonant here's the link to my head, it's the BA-0314-00.

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Old 09-02-2009, 09:21 PM
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I haven't bought a Remo head in almost two years, but you got the wrong head.. The head you need for the resonant side of your snare is a 3 mil snare Ambassador head, not a single ply 10 mil clear Ambassador head that you would use for a tom's batter or reso head. You won't get any sensitivity out of your snare with a 10 mil bottom head. That guy shouldn't be working at the music store or at least in the drum section.

BTW, did you tell him it was for a snare drum's resonant head.

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Old 09-02-2009, 09:27 PM
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BTW, did you tell him it was for a snare drum's resonant head.

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Yes and I asked if they had them in the backstore and he said that Remo only make heads that you can use for batter and reso. (like a multi-use head).
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:29 PM
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not a single ply 10 mil clear Ambassador head that you would use for a tom's batter or reso head.

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So you can use a normal Clear Ambassador as resonant only on toms?
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:30 PM
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So what are the Remo Clear Amb. resonant for snares called if I want one?
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: HELP! I just bought a Remo Clear Ambassador as my snare resonant and..!

Get a Remo HAZY Ambassador or Diplomat then you be very happy.

The HAZY Remo heads are the thinnest heads they make hopefully he or she will give you a refund for giving you the false info.

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Old 09-02-2009, 09:35 PM
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So you can use a normal Clear Ambassador as resonant only on toms?
Correct the HAZY heads are super thin they need to be in order to pick up the snare wires I bet your snare sounded like you put a pinstripe underneath LOL

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Old 09-02-2009, 09:36 PM
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Get a Remo HAZY Ambassador or Diplomat then you be very happy.

The HAZY Remo heads are the thinnest heads they make hopefully he or she will give you a refund for giving you the false info.

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Thank you :D

On an additional note, if I want a snare that sounds closer to what John Bonham had (Led Zep (do I really need to specify :P)) or a great rock sound like Tedd from Styx or Keith Moon's. Remo Amb. for reso. and emperor for batter would be the best choice am I right?
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:53 PM
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Thank you :D

On an additional note, if I want a snare that sounds closer to what John Bonham had (Led Zep (do I really need to specify :P)) or a great rock sound like Tedd from Styx or Keith Moon's. Remo Amb. for reso. and emperor for batter would be the best choice am I right?
if it was me 14" coated amb. batter(#1 snare batter of all time) 14" amb. HAZY res. with 42 strand snare wires and make sure it's. metal that's what Bonham used a Ludwig LM402 Superphonic to be exact.the snare & wires not heads.

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Old 09-02-2009, 10:10 PM
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42 strand snare wires


Hmmm could you show me some, I have a cheap stock snare from my Pearl Forums Series so no need to put $200 into the best 42 strand snare wires, can I get a good one between 30-80$?
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Old 09-02-2009, 10:31 PM
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42 strand snare wires


Hmmm could you show me some, I have a cheap stock snare from my Pearl Forums Series so no need to put $200 into the best 42 strand snare wires, can I get a good one between 30-80$?
I've never seen 42 strand wires now $200 if that's the case trade yours in and get a Ludwig Black Magic and be done. or get some Puresound Blasters they go for around $20-$30 US there not 42 strand but still sound very nice.

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Old 09-02-2009, 11:59 PM
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Do they even sell that head on it's own? All I've seen are tympani heads and resonant packs.
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: HELP! I just bought a Remo Clear Ambassador as my snare resonant and..!

The BA-0314-00 is a batter head, which is also a resonant head for toms and bass drums. It is a singly ply medium weight head. So yes, your drum guy DID know what he was talking about.

You need a SA-0114-00. That is the part number for a Remo Ambassador Snare Side
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:24 AM
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You need a SA-0114-00. That is the part number for a Remo Ambassador Snare Side
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Remo-Amb...25-i1136975.gc

The description says it's 10 mil.

You know I've used just a regular clear ambassador for a snare reso and haven't had any problems at all. Maybe it's a tuning related problem?
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: HELP! I just bought a Remo Clear Ambassador as my snare resonant and..!

You need an Ambassador Snare Side head. I don't they are called Hazy anymore just Ambassador Snare Side. There are Diplomat Snare sides and Emperor Snare sides as well.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:27 AM
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http://www.guitarcenter.com/Remo-Amb...25-i1136975.gc

The description says it's 10 mil.

You know I've used just a regular clear ambassador for a snare reso and haven't had any problems at all. Maybe it's a tuning related problem?
Do you believe anything GC has to say or text on their website? I sure as hell don't!

I know Remo's product codes inside and out. I'm 110% certain the SA-0114-00 is the Ambassador Snare Side which is a 3mil snare side head.

SD-01XX-00 = Diplomat Snare Side 2mil (XX being the size of the drum)
SA-01XX-00 = Ambassador Snare Side 3mil (XX being the size of the drum)
SE-01XX-00 = Emperor Snare Side 5mil (XX being the size of the drum)
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:40 AM
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Time to find a new place to buy your heads...
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:13 AM
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It sounds just wrong... I sounds like crap.. :S

What did I do wrong, I was told everywhere that it was an awesome resonant head, I saw videos with drums using that head and sounded awesome but mine just sounds like crap... I had the stock one (which sounded really nice) until now and I just replaced my head with this one, tuned it, everything is fine expect it sounds like crap!

Maybe I did something wrong or is there any type of Remo Amb. Clear heads that are not for resonance?

On the box it says AMBASSADOR, Clear, Batter, 14". I asked the guy at the music store why there was no AMBASSADOR, Clear, Resonant, 14" and he told me that Remo didn't do Resonant heads because the Batter one is made for resonance too. Maybe he didn't know what he was talking about or something..

Anyway I need help with this. By the way sorry for my english, I'm french-canadian! :P

Edit: http://www.remo.com/portal/products/...r+and+Resonant here's the link to my head, it's the BA-0314-00.
We at the drum shop are wondering if you put a tom head on your snare?
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:30 AM
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We at the drum shop are wondering if you put a tom head on your snare?
I'm currently using a Evans Genera HD Dry coated as my snare batter head. I want to switch to Coated Amb. because it seems like it's the best snare head for rock and music in general.
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:33 AM
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I'm currently using a Evans Genera HD Dry coated as my snare batter head. I want to switch to Coated Amb. because it seems like it's the best snare head for rock and music in general.
I am wondering about the reso head.
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:37 AM
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I am wondering about the reso head.
Well read my previous post, I'm using a normal 14" clear amb... looks like it's a tom head since I had that problem. :P

(there's no indication on the box other than Remo, Clear, Ambassador, Batter and 14".)
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:04 PM
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Snare rule #1

Batter sides get batter heads
Reso sides get "snare side" heads, as previously mentioned. Industry standard is ambassador snare side head, a 3 mil head NOT 10 mil, again as previously mentioned.
Tom use batters as resonants, snares most definitely do not.
The guy gave you bad snare reso advice.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:17 PM
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You need a new drum store.
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You need a new drum store.
Sounds to me like his drum store provided him with the exact product that he asked for, No?
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Old 09-03-2009, 05:41 PM
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Sounds to me like his drum store provided him with the exact product that he asked for, No?
I asked a snare resonant...
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Old 09-03-2009, 05:49 PM
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I asked a snare resonant...
It's frustrating when employee's at a music store don't. know a thing about drums or music for that matter.

GC has plenty of them LOL.

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Do you believe anything GC has to say or text on their website? I sure as hell don't!

I know Remo's product codes inside and out. )
Would you care for a medal or a parade of some sort? Seriously some of you cats should really calm down. Its mil thickness of mylar... not the end of the world. No need to get your panties in a twist.

Never the less, I made the mistake when I bought the head. No one sold it to me. I just walked in and told them I wanted this, do you have it? Anyway, it's been about six months since I've changed my snare reso, so I'll take your guys advice. But do yourselves a favor and work on your people skills. It might come in handy one day.
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