Snare stand as Tom Tom mount...

[rattat]

I am sure this question has been posed before, but how many of you out there use a snare stand as your tom mount? I am thinking about doing this. Has anyone used Axis. It seems to be nice and light, while maintaining a low-profile. I like the idea as I will most likely only use one tom, but I also do not want to choke the sound.

Thanks in advance!!!

[thelimpingtoad]

I tried this once before... but it didn't work out too well. :) the snare stand was constantly tipping if the tom was at any sort of an angle. you can get tom mount clamps for cymbal stands for about $30 depending on the type of mount... this would probably be a much better solution for most cases... if you're keeping it level or have a snare stand with wide legs and very high rubber grippie things, it might work though.

cymbal stand tom arm clamps:
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...amp?sku=440470
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...amp?sku=446141

or get a regular clamp and a tom arm for pearl-type toms...
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...ost?sku=448339
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...amp?sku=491672

[jaybanger]

I use a Ludwig low snare stand with the ball joint for my rack tom (11x14) every night and have for years. I play it with a slight angle. It has never tipped and looks great. Just don't clamp it to the rim. That kills the resonance.

[caddywumpus]

Originally Posted by jaybanger

Just don't clamp it to the rim. That kills the resonance.

So does resting a tom on its resonant hoop in a snare stand. It totally kills the sustain.

[RollingStone000]

I've currently got mine setup one up two down with the 12x9 rack tom on a snare stand and it works out really well for me (I like like my kit slightly low and flat). The biggest thing is get a good double braced stand that has some weight to it, it doesn't have to be a high dollar pro stand (hell, I'm using a PDP stand). And in order to keep most of the sound of the drum you want to place the claws of the stand on the lip of the hoop, not the entire drum seated on the stand like a snare, that'll absolutely kill the resonance. I've got flanged hoops so it's got a little bit of counter edge that grips to help keep it in there; not too sure how well it would work with die cast hoops. Also, don't over tighten the basket. I personally like to keep it just a little tight so I can still turn the drum slightly (with a little bit of force) while it's in the basket, and pull it off the stand with out having to fiddle around with the tightening and loosening the knob.

[Deathmetalconga]

Originally Posted by caddywumpus

So does resting a tom on its resonant hoop in a snare stand. It totally kills the sustain.

If it's okay to put a snare in a snare stand, why not a tom in a snare stand?

[caddywumpus]

Originally Posted by Deathmetalconga

If it's okay to put a snare in a snare stand, why not a tom in a snare stand?

I didn't say it wasn't okay, just that it kills the resonance. If that's the sound you want, then by all means, do it!

Typically, I've known drummers to like a lot of sustain from their toms, and not from their snares--hence the opinion suggesting the appropriateness of the snare, and not the tom, in the snare stand...

[Moldy]

I have to agree. I spent a few hours today at my storage place, tuning up my two toms. And my small tom sounded great when I held it by the rim. But as soon as I put it in a snare stand... death. What's worse is, unless you muffle your floor toms, they won't sound right for each other.

Personally, I regret not spending the $50 to fix up my mount (or buy a new one) instead of buying this snare stand.

[RollingStone000]

Originally Posted by Moldy

I have to agree. I spent a few hours today at my storage place, tuning up my two toms. And my small tom sounded great when I held it by the rim. But as soon as I put it in a snare stand... death. What's worse is, unless you muffle your floor toms, they won't sound right for each other.

Personally, I regret not spending the $50 to fix up my mount (or buy a new one) instead of buying this snare stand.

I'm going to guess that you had it setup this way, with the bottom of the tom sitting in the basket. That will always kill the sustain because there's too much pressure on the rim keeping the head from vibrating.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...6/IMG_0034.jpg
or
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/a...1&d=1249262954

Try it like this (below). This way will definitely allow the drum's reso head to vibrate normally. But as I stated before, make sure to tighten it just enough to keep the drum stationary, but still be able to pull it out of the stand with out having to loosen the knob on the basket.
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/a...pictureid=2846
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/a...pictureid=2847

[Moldy]

The links you gave me show up as "Invalid Album ID". But, no, that's not how I had it set up. I mean, it was when I first tried about half a year ago and that *definitely* killed sustain. But this time I tightened up the snare stand before I rested the tomtom on its flanges. It wasn't nearly as bad as before, but still nowhere near as good as a rim mount. Personal opinion from behind the kit, of course; I have no idea if there's any real difference to the audience.

[RollingStone000]

Crap, sorry about the pics, not too used to putting up pics, try these. You may want to try keeping it loose, placing the drum in the basket, and then tighten it. That's kind off odd (the lack of sustain your getting), I'm getting a butt load, way too damn much for my taste..

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/a...pictureid=2846
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/a...pictureid=2847

And sorry about hammering the point, but personally I think the tom drum on a snare stand looks immensely slick. I'd like to see it work out for anyone who wants to try it.