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Old 08-01-2009, 09:12 PM
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Default Took my drums for a walk - Yamaha beech with zildjian plates

Sun was shining today so I took my drums outside.

It's a Yamaha beech custom which isn't produced anymore. The snare is maple custom absolute. I think the absolute lugs are a step backwards since they don't allow to finger tighten the head, which is essential for tuning.
I'd like a smaller snare and smaller kick though.

Cymbals are all zildjians.
The ride is a vintage avedis with hollow logo.
The crash is a very thin K custom fast crash. Too light if you ask me, even though I like low volume. I want to replace it with an A custom crash.
Hats and china are K brilliant. Too bad Zildjian doesn't sell them anymore since the brilliant finish "sweetens" the tone. I'm looking for smaller hats but the china is just amazing: sweet, dark and light.

I'm not gonna go into details with hardware, safe that imo it's essential to have sturdy but smooth pedals, as pedals greatly influence control. That's why I invested in iron cobra HH and kick pedals, although I rarely use the second kick pedal.
Btw, the hardware is the only stuff I bought new (and the crash as well).
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:20 PM
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Very nice kit, looks to be in GREAT condition! Love the color!
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:15 AM
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Where do you put the ride cymbal when you set up the 12" and the 16"? Just wondering if that is an issue. I noticed you put the 10" on a stand so you could get the ride cymbal really close.

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Old 08-02-2009, 02:28 AM
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loved the kit, loved the colour... what kind of cases are those?
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:56 AM
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Good god... Memoriesss

I had that kit in that colour to (8, 10, 15, 22) It was kickin. The colour is beuatiful to!
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:54 AM
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Where do you put the ride cymbal when you set up the 12" and the 16"? Just wondering if that is an issue. I noticed you put the 10" on a stand so you could get the ride cymbal really close.
The ride goes always on the same spot. I used to play 12 up 14-16 down but I can do the same stuff with just two toms and I feel 12 & 16 are too clumsy.

The rack tom goes on a stand for a second reason: to keep the kick unencumbered. The kick is lifted from the ground and only the pedal touches the ground.

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loved the kit, loved the colour... what kind of cases are those?
You'll never guess: Stagg. They do the job for half the price of regular brands.

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Good god... Memoriesss

I had that kit in that colour to (8, 10, 15, 22) It was kickin. The colour is beuatiful to!
The hue looks bright because of the sunlight. Inside, they're as dark as the first picture.

I didn't know beech custom came in 15". Why did you sell them. What heads did you use? Any tuning tips for achieving a fat pitch bend?
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:52 PM
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Looks great!

My snare matches your kit (blueberry beech custom).
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:56 PM
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LOL The title made me chuckle, good pics!
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:05 PM
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Looks great!

My snare matches your kit (blueberry beech custom).
Please show.

Btw, I'm looking to get a 13x5,5 yamaha brass abs snare.

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Old 08-05-2009, 01:16 PM
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Here are a couple pics from the guy I bought it from. They don't show the grain or color very well though. It really is a good looking color, I wish it matched my set better!
I think I'm starting to like the sound. its my first wood shell snare, and my experience with snares is pretty narrow.
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:23 PM
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I didn't know beech custom came in 15". Why did you sell them. What heads did you use? Any tuning tips for achieving a fat pitch bend?
Yes they did ;) I wanted to buy a new kit (witch I did and is by far better, but still a cool kit though ;) )

I used both Remo Pinstripes and Ambassadors on top and Ambassadors on the bottom. A Powerstroke 3 on front of the kick and a Evans Emad at kickside.
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:29 PM
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very sweet kit!


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Old 08-05-2009, 07:57 PM
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two pictures of the set.
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:21 AM
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Took my drums for a walk - Yamaha beech with zildjian plates

I'm curious...
How would you describe the sound qualities of the beech? How would you compare them to, say, birch and maple? I've never had the pleasure to hear beech drums...
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:35 PM
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I'm curious...
How would you describe the sound qualities of the beech? How would you compare them to, say, birch and maple? I've never had the pleasure to hear beech drums...
If we put ten maple drums next to ten birch drums and blindfolded you, would you know which is which?

The traits of heads, the room's acoustics and the diameter/depth/thickness are a much bigger factor than the wood type.

What I can tell though is that the drums sound "round" but that might be because of the coated heads and medium-thick shells. The kick sounds big but that might be because of the emad with no internal muffling. You'd probably hear more difference on the snare but my snare's not beech.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:24 PM
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Nice looking kit, love that color.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:30 PM
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Lovely liking the colour and snare!!
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:11 PM
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Thats A lovely Kit.

I have the same one, with the 22x18 bass drum which is excellent.

I'm looking for a 16" floor tom in that colour..... You mention that you felt your 16" to be clumsy, I don't suppose per chance that you would want to part with it?!!!
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Old 08-21-2009, 05:24 PM
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I have the same kit, and I can attest that clear amb over clear amb is the best head combos for this kit imo. It allows the shell to project like it should.
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:59 PM
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:07 PM
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Here's the new snare. Sounds much better than the maple custom: tighter with more body.

It's brass 13x5,5 with N&C wires.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:08 PM
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:37 PM
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Guys, I'd love to try a 20" kick but since beech customs have been discontinued I'm thinking of custom ordering a kick from the absolute line. It will provide me two drum sets:

Studio
10-14-20

Stage
12-16-22

1. I suppose there's no beech absolute line anymore. Which kick will fit better with the beech toms: maple or birch?

2. There are eight absolute types now. Ugh... what's the real difference?

3. I don't find a color list on the Yamaha site. Where can I find one? I did some research and "deep blue" looks like be the closest to blueberry. It looks like this:

http://www.musik-schmidt.de/images/p...lute-DBU_2.jpg

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Old 10-06-2009, 08:48 AM
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Why not order a Blueberry kick trough yamaha directly. If you buy an other colour it will be going to be totaly diffferent. Blueberry has a specific texture ehile depending on the light it turns either blue or purple. You wont get that with any other of the colours that are ou now. Also because of the Beech grain.

If a Beech shell will be a hassle you can also opt for a birch or maple kick.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:16 AM
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I don't think they offer blueberry.

I don't mind if it looks a bit different, as long as it sounds good. Snares don't always match drum sets, so why should bass drums.

I don't think they offer beech absolutes either and I'm not sure whether to get birch or maple.

The thing I fear more than wood grain is the price. A custom order will cost around 1000 € I guess. That's the price I payed for the entire shell set and I'm hesitant to spend that much for just a kick.
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:38 AM
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That set up is absolutely gorgeous. Just like mine a part from all your gear is better!
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I don't think they offer blueberry.

I don't mind if it looks a bit different, as long as it sounds good. Snares don't always match drum sets, so why should bass drums.

I don't think they offer beech absolutes either and I'm not sure whether to get birch or maple.

The thing I fear more than wood grain is the price. A custom order will cost around 1000 € I guess. That's the price I payed for the entire shell set and I'm hesitant to spend that much for just a kick.

Instead of thinking... Act! Send the office a mail for a quote on possibillity's and price.

And a birch or maple will cost you around the same since the new series came out (and the absolute lugs became special order to)

if you have patient. Sometimes a kick will show up on any of the ebays (.com .de .ca .sp .it .ch etc etc) for sometimes really good prices ;)
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:39 AM
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Very cool set. Too bad you couldn't get it with a virgin kick... I hate the look of an empty tom mount, which is why every kit I've ever owned has been (more or less) virgin. I know you don't need to hear this, but you could mount your ride on the bass drum and eliminate an entire stand. Since it looks like you're pretty economical with your other stands, it's a shame that your ride cymbal requires its own stand just to itself. Still, I do understand wanting to keep the kick free from extra weight and sympathetic vibration.

My setup is pretty similar to yours, all things considered- 1 or 2 toms up (sharing a stand with a crash cymbal), 1 down (sharing a stand with my ride), and most of the time I have another cymbal stand that I can mount 2 cymbals to. For smaller combo gigs, I just bring crash and ride- only 2 tripods hit the ground aside from my hi hat (which also has a splash mounted to it). I love the simplicity, honestly.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:01 PM
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I'm economical for practical reasons. I prefer to spend more time playing than setting up. I don't mind the bracket and I think the ride is heavy enough to deserve its own stand. I would prefer a floor tom to save one stand, then mount the ride together with a crash.

I absolutely love the snare and the kick sounds big, a bit boomy. I'm not happy with how the toms sound and will check out clear P3 and clear EC1. I'm also looking at new cymbals and am leaning towards this:

13 KZ hats
20 KC dark ride (or 20 K ride)
16 K thin crash
17 KC dark crash (or 17 K thin crash)

I checked the prices and the cheapest absolute 20x18 kick is 1300 €. For that price I can buy this kit:

sonor s class pro

I found a picture of "deep blue" and as you can see, it's very close to what I have.

All in all, I think I should be happy with what I have. A smaller kick would be an improvement but not for that money.
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:19 AM
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I have seen 99% of Yamaha's colours and none of them match the Blueberry (just like Apple Red doesn't match Red Oak, althoug on some pictures they look the same, even more than blueberry) I was looking for extra shells when I had that Beech to ;)

Why doen't you contact peter for a trade: http://link.marktplaats.nl/285809799

a 22 sells better than a 20'' so I would do it If I where him ;)
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Old 10-18-2009, 05:29 PM
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Thanks but that colour doesn't look any closer to mine than the one I posted. I don't mine if the colour is a bit off. Snares don't have to match, why should bass drums.

You suggested ordering blueberry. Lookoing at your picture, you might have some experience with Yamaha. Is it possible to order a kick in a colour that isn't supported anymore? How much more will such special order cost?
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:22 PM
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Pictures (unless made fr a company, and even then) are never ''true'' I always check with my own eyes (if I had to choose my Red Oak set from the catalog I probably wouldn't pick it. To hard pictured)

Yamaha usually keeps a backorder catalog of elder finish. Just give it a shot. Drumland/Terpstra has some really good contacts within Yamaha for things like colors and separate parts.
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