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Old 03-26-2006, 05:50 AM
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You wanna here what Lars playing is like live go here:
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Old 03-26-2006, 10:08 AM
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In my opinion lars is a dam good drummer and an great inspiration to me, he may not be the best drummer out there but i think his greatest skill to to put the right drum track to the right song.
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Old 03-26-2006, 10:29 AM
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Lars the man: From watching interviews, to the whole Napster debacle, to seeing 'Some Kind Of Monster', pretty much killed my interest in him. He's more of a business man than a musician & that darn constant gum chewing drives me nuts!

Lars the drummer: One of my influences as well, but mainly from his early work. Lars' playing peaked with ...And Justice For All (whoever mixed that album should be shot though), then declined (like the rest of the band did) after that.
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Old 03-26-2006, 01:32 PM
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i do like his drumming, could you imagine metallica any other way? he never overplays, and i always get the sense that he puts the song first.
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:31 PM
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ok im not like a lars h8r hes and alright drummer but what i find is people sayin that he is the only one for mettalica omg did none of u see the festivle cant rememeber what one it was but he was sick so jj (slipknot) filled in hello jj added more that one night that lars could eva do
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Old 03-27-2006, 05:28 PM
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ok im not like a lars h8r hes and alright drummer but what i find is people sayin that he is the only one for mettalica omg did none of u see the festivle cant rememeber what one it was but he was sick so jj (slipknot) filled in hello jj added more that one night that lars could eva do
Actually it sounded like crap. Ive heard the MP3 of that show. Joey was WAAAYYYY to busy for a Metallica song. Good thing he only played a couple of songs. The drum tech did the best job out of all of them.
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:57 AM
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That entire show is available on Metallica's pay site. LiveMetallica.com.

Dave Lombardo plays on 2 tracks as well. Much rather listen to him than Jordinson.

lilblakdak, ohhhhh no my friend. Joey is all over this concert. ;-)

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Old 03-28-2006, 06:02 AM
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Lars Ulrich was a great drummer, and i don't have anything negative to say about him except his latest stuff really lacked creativity. ...And justice for all, Black Album and Master of Puppets were amazing and i loved his drumming on those. Master of puppets is his best drumming (the song i mean).
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:44 AM
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I still can't get over the sound of his snare on ST.ANGER.. Anyone?
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Old 03-28-2006, 11:24 AM
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woulnt call him a bad drummer, but overrated. his playing suits metallica perfect, that's good stuff. but many see him as a god, only cos they are metallica fans.
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:05 PM
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I still can't get over the sound of his snare on ST.ANGER.. Anyone?
yea that snare was pretty rough. just sounded like a damn........what's that drum called....MAN! The drum that latin percussionists use.
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:20 AM
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yea that snare was pretty rough. just sounded like a damn........what's that drum called....MAN! The drum that latin percussionists use.
A timbale.

Although it's obvious they wanted a "raw" sound for that album, his snare sound is a little too overbearing.
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Old 03-29-2006, 04:08 AM
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YES! Thank you sir! Man, what was he thinking!?
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:16 AM
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...And Justice For All (whoever mixed that album should be shot though),
Are you serious? I think the bass drum on "One" is one of the best sounding rock bass drum sounds ever recorded. Compare it to Black Album....where did the bass drum go?????
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:21 AM
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I still can't get over the sound of his snare on ST.ANGER.. Anyone?
That snare is the reason people call drums Pots and Pans
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:28 AM
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well, say what you want but i like lars's snare on st. anger
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:01 PM
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well, say what you want but i like lars's snare on st. anger
You really do? Can I ask why? Just can't get my head or ears around it.. sounds terrible to me..
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:13 PM
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You really do? Can I ask why? Just can't get my head or ears around it.. sounds terrible to me..
i like it because it's original, and it gets your attention. i wouldn't want my snare to sound like that all the time, but for a song or 2 it'd be cool

i haven't heard the whole album tho. if he kept the same sound for every song... hmmm... i don't know about that...

but for st anger, the song, it sounds tougher and more raw than most badly recorded snares, at least the ones i've heard
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:22 PM
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i like it because it's original, and it gets your attention. i wouldn't want my snare to sound like that all the time, but for a song or 2 it'd be cool

i haven't heard the whole album tho. if he kept the same sound for every song... hmmm... i don't know about that...

but for st anger, the song, it sounds tougher and more raw than most badly recorded snares, at least the ones i've heard
I'm not talking about the song St. Anger, I'm taking about the album St.Anger.. he uses that snare sound for the entire thing...
Listen to the album start to finish and you'll have a VERY different view point on the snare 'sound'..
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:33 PM
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does his job well....a good steady rock drummer...nothing too flashy....great drum sound...he wont go down as one of the greats but i like his style
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:24 PM
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I also hated the snare sound on St. Anger and at first I did not get it. But then the explanation they give on the 'Some Kind of Monster' movie made me understand.

Bob Rock said something like "the objective of the album (sound wise) is to have a 'garage band' sound, and metallica is the band". They just wanted to finish a record, and the objective was to have a garage sound to it..so, from this perspective, I think they did pretty good...even though I would have liked the sound of the Garage Days Re-revisited EP much better, now that was a damn good raw sounding recording!

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Old 03-30-2006, 05:43 AM
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Are you serious? I think the bass drum on "One" is one of the best sounding rock bass drum sounds ever recorded. Compare it to Black Album....where did the bass drum go?????
The overall sound was crap, especially since the bass and midbass were almost non-exsistent (example: like most of Rush's releases in the 80's), but I do like his punchy bass drum on that album.

I haven't listened to ...And Justice in years, so I'll have to check it out again, but I'm pretty sure I'm right about the overall sound of the album.
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Old 03-31-2006, 12:10 AM
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Lars to me, does the job for metallica. he definetly can not be considered one of the best drummers around these day's, but aslong as he can drum for metallica im happy. listning to many of there bootlegs, you'l hear that he's getting quite lazy, such as not playing the proper begining to there song motorbreath, and sometimes not playing the double bass for dyers eve. i'd say he hit top notch during there ...and justice for all album, he definetly proved himself to be more then just your everyday thrash drummer. i give him credit for starting my favorite band, and also for keeping the energy in metallica. his drumming may be somewhat simple when comparing to other drummers, but his facial expressions will always be the best lol. I hope he can kick it back up on the their next album, to prove himself worthy of being a really good drummer. im a great fan through all of there albums, including the load era, st-anger, and S&M, and i hope it continues to be like that for there next album.
I agree. You arnt the drummer of one of the biggest bands ever for nothing. Hes awsome.
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Old 03-31-2006, 10:00 AM
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That entire show is available on Metallica's pay site. LiveMetallica.com.
[sarcasm]Wow, what a surprise. Metallica has a pay site.[/sarcasm]
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:33 PM
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hey i no what i said before was pretty poor and actually if u listen to st. anger joey uses sum pretty fast double bass stuff in there. and i just finish watchin the some kind of monster dvd and it was totaly inspirin to play drums and guitar. wooo 'daddy plays dums' lars' kid is a rockin drummer
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Old 03-31-2006, 09:09 PM
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I also hated the snare sound on St. Anger and at first I did not get it. But then the explanation they give on the 'Some Kind of Monster' movie made me understand.

Bob Rock said something like "the objective of the album (sound wise) is to have a 'garage band' sound, and metallica is the band". They just wanted to finish a record, and the objective was to have a garage sound to it..so, from this perspective, I think they did pretty good...even though I would have liked the sound of the Garage Days Re-revisited EP much better, now that was a damn good raw sounding recording!

Peace.
I think Mr. Rock might've made a verbal typo in calling that a "garage" sound instead of a "garbage" (can) sound.

Speaking of the Master of Puppets album, I was at a dream theater concert a few years back (6 degrees of inner turbulence tour), and their entire second set was them covering that album. They sounded pretty good, although they didn't improvise a whole lot which got a bit tiring.
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:19 AM
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I've noticed a significant regression in Lars' playing ability live.

Here:

Master of Puppets in 1989 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=b2s7DcIbkcI&search=Metallica

Master of Puppets in 2004 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=rQKhc6IKi...Puppets%20live

Notice the difference?

Here's an Apocalyptica Version:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ijDUluXxP...Puppets%20live

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Old 04-04-2006, 03:52 AM
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Yes, the difference was clear as day. Why? Because they're not really 'metal' anymore and they're 20 years older. Then again, Neil Peart is in his 50's and can still play songs like LaVilla Strangiato note-for-note. That version of Master is more 'grooving', but come on..........just.........not good.

Note to Hetfield: For the love of God stop trying to sing and just yell it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone has to get it through to this guy. Or, maybe he damaged his v.c.'s from all those years of screaming. Who knows.....regardless.....it needs to stop.
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Yes, the difference was clear as day. Why? Because they're not really 'metal' anymore and they're 20 years older. Then again, Neil Peart is in his 50's and can still play songs like LaVilla Strangiato note-for-note. That version of Master is more 'grooving', but come on..........just.........not good.

Note to Hetfield: For the love of God stop trying to sing and just yell it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone has to get it through to this guy. Or, maybe he damaged his v.c.'s from all those years of screaming. Who knows.....regardless.....it needs to stop.

Hetfield did hurt his voice on the black album tour.

The excuse "they're not really metal any more" doesnt cover the fact he cant play their old songs. Thats is really just a horrible excuse.
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Hetfield did hurt his voice on the black album tour.

The excuse "they're not really metal any more" doesnt cover the fact he cant play their old songs. Thats is really just a horrible excuse.
Exactly! Regardless of their new style, they should still be able to perform their old music. Part of the reason Lars isn't as good is because he changed his setup, and his newer songs do not utilize double bass(with the exception of those St. Anger, but I hate that album, so eh) and the fills he used to do. Lars would probably be amazing right now if Metallica had picked up where ...And Justice For All left off. Think about it; he was getting faster and faster (I noticed it even while the were on tour for Justice), and a lot better while on tour. If the "Black" album had never been created, I expect we would have a much different opinion of Mr. Ulrich.

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Old 04-05-2006, 09:56 AM
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That´s exactly what I think, because his drumming on Justice was far more than just solid... It was really good, and he could play fast as well as a bit technical. Seeing the DVD for the Black Album tour, his drumsolo really amazed me. he was damn fast with his feet, and the sound of his drums was also great ;-)
they should have stopped after that, the black album was ok imo, but the rest?? not really
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Hetfield did hurt his voice on the black album tour. The excuse "they're not really metal any more" doesnt cover the fact he cant play their old songs. Thats is really just a horrible excuse.
Actually, what I said by Metallica "not really being 'metal' anymore" makes perfect sense. Did you notice how I said 'metal' ???? The meaning of "being metal", not necessarily playing metal music. I thought you guys would've caught that. Soon as they got to the top they got lazy, they have no hunger anymore and they're also corporate wh*res.......all those things aren't METAL. In other words, they don't give a rat's behind about playing their old songs good anymore, or playing good music at all. Woooooooooo! Thanks kids. *bows* Goodnight.
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Old 04-10-2006, 03:56 AM
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Anyone else pissed Lars went from this to this?
I am.....
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Oh yeah, anyone ever notice that Lars used a ride cymbal on Kill 'Em All, and Ride the Lightning, and never used one again? With the exception of Welcome Home's intro and the breakdown of Disposable Heroes on Master of Puppets, he does not use it at all on any of the other albums.

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Yeah Lars plays on Tama but I heard he recorded black album with Gretsch bass drums. He even played on Sabnian hi hats on that album. Of course he plays on Tama, Zildjian, Remo and Ahead but only live. I read somwhere where he said he only play with Ahead sticks live but when recording he uses wodd sticks because cymbals sound better.

I think Lars is a great drummer, he's got something in his style. I don't like his some of his live fills though.
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I don't like his St. anger kit but the silver one i really liked. I dont like the fact he removed ride cymbal.

I really dig silver sparkle kit man.
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I guess no on really cares about his setup change. I, however, really do. I know Lars would play a lot better on his old setup; also, instead of a ride, he has a china in it's place. Even on the Justice tour, he did not use a ride.

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I guess no on really cares about his setup change. I, however, really do. I know Lars would play a lot better on his old setup; also, instead of a ride, he has a china in it's place. Even on the Justice tour, he did not use a ride.

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Metallica started dying after puppets. And Justice was still pretty good, but far from Puppets or even their older albums.

Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning and Puppets had so much influence from Cliff Burton and Dave Mustaine. When Cliff died, they lost such a key player. Of course they got a much better lead guitarist in Hammett, but they lost a great song writer.

I only listen to their first 4 albums. Everything else is so cookie cutter. And the drumming is far from what it used to be.

I have 4 bootleg live DVDs of Metallica from before 1990. His playing was much better and more precise than my 1993 DVD for the Black album.

What a shame. Somehow though, the fans still love them. I just don't get it.
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What a shame. Somehow though, the fans still love them. I just don't get it.
It's interesting you said "What a shame", because this is exactly what I think of when I think about Metallica. I look at pictures of Master of Puppets and the entire band in their youth; they seemed so much happier. I actually feel depressed when I think of what Metallica has become.

Now onto the setup issue: Lars may have changed his setup for 2 reasons.

A) After the band played the song "And Justice for All", they got off stage very tired from the length of the song. James immediately said "We're never playing that $*@%ing song again!" Lars also doesn't play the rolls on the toms when he plays "One" live (the decrescendos towards the end which were recorded for the album).

B) Metallica's newer material (post - Black Album) barely even uses the toms or double bass. Lars may have thought he would never need the two "extra" toms again.

Either way - I'm still pissed. The old set was so cool!

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Old 04-14-2006, 10:17 PM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=eZSjCQiaL...eeping%20Death

I think the is Lars' (and Metallica's) best performance.

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