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Old 04-07-2009, 12:32 AM
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Default Evans G Plus, a superior resonant head

Last year I purchased a set of Evans clear G Plus for use as batters. As you may or may not know, the G Pluses are a 12 mil film, where clear Ambassadors and G1's are a 10 mil film. So I changed to G Pluses on the batters over G1's and I took them to one gig. The G Pluses lacked the attack I like...When I hit my toms with the G Pluses, instead of hearing "Dooom", I heard "Oooom" So off they came.
So today, ever the tweaker, I decide that I want to try the G Pluses as reso heads. I've gathered here that a thicker head will vibrate longer and have a warmer sound than a thinner head.
That's exactly what the result was. My toms note sang noticeably longer, with definite added warmth. I like an open and lively completely unmuffled tom sound with a crisp stick attack. My toms with the G1's over the G pluses are noticeably better sounding than the same tom with the G1's over the G1's. It kept the attack of the 10 mil film, but sang longer and warmer. I was very pleased with the improvement and the first thing I had to do was to say it here...G Plus Clears make superior sounding reso heads! I'd recommend giving them a try.

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Old 04-07-2009, 12:54 AM
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That's interesting - I often wonder why people aren't using thicker heads as resos on their toms, since resonance is such a sought-after quality in drums.

Does having a G1 over a GPlus have a strange attack at all? To me, the feel is every bit as important as the sound.
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:05 AM
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No, the attack was identical to G1's over G1's. Just a longer, warmer note. Now EC1's are a single ply 14 mil film, I have a set of these where I peeled off the overtone control ring with a blowdryer and a razor blade, I wonder if these would make even a longer warmer note. I would think there would be a point of diminishing returns somewhere, but knowing me I'll have to try the EC1's as well
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I had similar results some years back when I used coated Emps over coated Emps (back when you could find a BATCH of really resonant Emps...now you have to check them).

The sound was real big, full, and fat, but still resonant.

I'm a believer that using the same head top & bottom will get the most "sound".
Could be heavy, or dark, or bright etc... but since the heads/film is the same (and working together), you'll get the most out of whatever type of head you choose.

A smooth white Emp on the front of the bass drum gets a real full, solid tone also, and some of the higher frequencies (that you may not want) are not present, or at least diminished so you don't notice them in the overall sound of your bass drum.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:51 PM
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I'm a believer that using the same head top & bottom will get the most "sound".
Could be heavy, or dark, or bright etc... but since the heads/film is the same (and working together), you'll get the most out of whatever type of head you choose.
You know I was of the same school of thought, but now I'm not so sure. There was an improvement to my ear with the G Pluses as resos, more sound, bigger. I will get a chance to test them on a gig this Saturday. I was hesitant about using a 2 ply for a resonant (like the emp) but hey if it makes my toms sound bigger and fuller, I'll abandon my preconceived notions and use them. I know for sure I need the attack of a single ply 10 mil head on the batter though.

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I've been doing this since the G-plus heads came out.

I use them on some of the toms only. With G1s all around as resos, a couple of the toms (the smallest two) had a shorter sustain than the others. By using the G-plus heads as resos on just those two, their sustain matches the sustain of the other drums much better.

Using something like an Emperor as a reso is a different thing entirely because they're 2-ply: you get less sustain, not more. It's an old trick to tame an overly resonant floor tom to use an Emperor on the bottom.
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I've been doing this since the G-plus heads came out.

I use them on some of the toms only. With G1s all around as resos, a couple of the toms (the smallest two) had a shorter sustain than the others. By using the G-plus heads as resos on just those two, their sustain matches the sustain of the other drums much better.

Using something like an Emperor as a reso is a different thing entirely because they're 2-ply: you get less sustain, not more. It's an old trick to tame an overly resonant floor tom to use an Emperor on the bottom.
Interesting. I have some coated G2s laying around that I'd like to slap on my MCX kit, maybe I'll put G-Plus on the reso side.

My Unix kit came with a ported, coated Emp. on the reso side of the bass and it sounded completely dead to me. I swapped it out for a 4" ported, smooth white PS3 and it was a whole new drum, for sure.
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:11 PM
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I just thought of something that makes a difference.

Back then the Emps used WHITE film (and coated that), which does sound different than the clear film with the coating.

I'd think that Smooth White Emps on the bottom would give a similar effect as the older White film coated Emps I used.

BTW...you can now order the "new" old version of the emp with white film....

I think with a slightly heavier 1 ply head on he bottom--like a G1 on top and a G plus on the bottom that you'd get a little fatter, deeper sound, but it'd still be "bright" from the top head being slightly thinner.

Clear or coated is gonna change it a little too, I'd say more in the character of the sound, and not the volume.

The Emps on T&B didn't make them any quieter or louder than the "usual" Emp top, Amb. bottom combo. It just changed the "fullness" of the sound. Seemed like the same volume/attack as usual, just a fatter overall tone.

I like a single or double ply head on the kick reso without any dampening ring.
I do use a small piece of foam touching the front head to cut the extra "ring" I don't want down, and it keeps the sound from bouncing around in the large shell.
The ringed reso heads seem too dead on my kick.

One cool one for the batter that does have a ring in it is the EQ1 frosted.
That is a pretty big sounding head with just enough muffling to keep the drum sounding alive, and not an either "all punch", or "all tone" head.
It's a good one if you like nothing in your shell, and works with a ringed or non-ringed reso too.
Seems like the same idea as the Emad head, just "more" sound.
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Ok, rather than making another thread (never have had the need to do here!) I did a little search and out of the 100 of pages I think this one will do to ask a question!

I've never asked and found out but when does everyone replaces the reso's? I've had mine on for quite a bit now!

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Ok, rather than making another thread (never have had the need to do here!) I did a little search and out of the 100 of pages I think this one will do to ask a question!

I've never asked and found out but when does everyone replaces the reso's? I've had mine on for quite a bit now!

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Old 04-16-2009, 11:32 PM
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hi Larry, I'm a little confused as this thread made me go check out the Evans website. They now have a litlle chart when you click on each head showing the defining characterictics of each head, and it says the G plus would have more attack than the G1. And also less sustain.

Seems like the Evans website is saying the thinner the head the less attack and more sustain you get. I'm not personally disagreeing since I haven't tried these combos myself but am just curious. I currently use coated G2s over G1s.

What I can't figure out is for resonant heads Evans rates the Genera Reso with more sustain than the G1 but they are both the same thickness. Why the difference?

I'm looking at the ratings Evans has under the Toms section. (although they're there for all types of heads.) I know the Evans rep was on here before talking about improvements being made to the site. This must have been what he meant.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:58 PM
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It's a law of physics that all things being equal, a thicker head will stay in motion (resonate) for a longer amount of time than a thinner head. I used clear G1's over clear G1's for a long time.(G1's are a 10 mil single ply head) A fine sound, no doubt. As an experiment I tried clear Diplomats, a thinner head, (7.5 mils) as resos. I thought it would make for a livelier tom. I got noticeably less sustain that the G1 over G1 combo. So I went back to the G1's as resos. I tried the clear G plus's (a single ply 12 mil head) as batters and lost the attack I like. Instead of my toms sounding like "doom doom" they sounded like "oom oom" to me. So I went back to the G1 batter. Months later I wanted to experiment again, because I felt my 10" DW tom wasn't sustaining enough. Since I had a set of barely used G plus's laying around I decided to try them as resos. I immediately heard more warmth and sustain from my drums, right in keeping with the law of physics. This does go counter with what Evans claims, but I know what I hear and that's what matters most. I trust my ears and sensibilities over another mans marketing hype any day. Evans make fine heads, not knocking them, I use them, but experiments convinced me that G pluses sustain longer and sound better as resos than the G1's. Now, the EC1's are a 14 mil single ply head, even thicker that the G Plus'. This should make for and even longer sustain. I do have a set of them that I peeled the overtone control rings off of with the help of a blowdryer...(I'll control my overtones thank you very much) but I haven't experimented with them yet. Haven't tried the 2 ply EC2 heads as reso's either, but I will probably experiment with them as well. Meantime, I am very happy and satisfied with the sound of clear G1's over clear G Plus. Next experiment is with the EC1's, I'll make a post when I do.

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It's a law of physics that all things being equal, a thicker head will stay in motion (resonate) for a longer amount of time than a thinner head.
Exactly. Check out Remo's explanation of the Diplomat vs. Clear Ambassador.
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I've been using clear G Pluses on my floor toms for about three months now. With coated Emperors as batters, this is the best combination I have found to date.
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Exactly. Check out Remo's explanation of the Diplomat vs. Clear Ambassador.
Sorry, it seems like the Remo site is agreeing with the Evans sight that a thinner head gives more sustain and a thicker one gives more attack.

http://www.remo.com/portal/products/.../ds_clear.html

I too was interested in trying the G plus as batters but if they do give an Oooom sound instead of the Doooom then that's not what I'm looking for. Overall I'm still pretty happy with the G2s but will probably do some experimentation myself with different Resos.
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:43 PM
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And the plot thickens. This video which I linked to from the Evans website seems to go against what the site says regarding Reso head sustain.

http://www.tothestage.com/MediaDetail.Page?MediaId=774

You can clearly hear the G1 (as a reso) sustains longer than the Genera Reso head which is thinner, even though the descriptions say the Genera Reso should sustain longer.

Looks like the Evans sound descriptions may need some tweaking.
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Sorry, it seems like the Remo site is agreeing with the Evans sight that a thinner head gives more sustain and a thicker one gives more attack.

http://www.remo.com/portal/products/.../ds_clear.html

I too was interested in trying the G plus as batters but if they do give an Oooom sound instead of the Doooom then that's not what I'm looking for. Overall I'm still pretty happy with the G2s but will probably do some experimentation myself with different Resos.
HHHHHHHmmm....very interesting. I thought I had read somewhere (maybe one of their ads or a catalog?) that the sustain was supposed to be shorter, with a thinner, single-ply head.

We need to get to the bottom of this mystery, scoob.
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Yes, sustain is shorter with a thinner head, longer with a thicker head. Physics 101. If anybody says otherwise, they're violating basic laws of physics.
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Yes, sustain is shorter with a thinner head, longer with a thicker head. Physics 101. If anybody says otherwise, they're violating basic laws of physics.
Well, we could play devil's advocate. Perhaps there are some variables that come into play, such as batter head thickness, depth of the drum and dynamics?

It might be that someone who plays very softly would not push enough air through the drum to sufficiently excite a thicker resonant head. Or similarly, maybe the drum is too deep and it isn't being struck hard enough to send enough air through it. OR...the batter head is a thick, double-ply head like the EC2, of which might require more force to fully excite a thick resonant head.

Or...any combination thereof.

Just thoughts...haven't actually tested any of this. There has to be a reason that a medium-weight single ply has become a defacto standard as a resonant head.
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There has to be a reason that a medium-weight single ply has become a defacto standard as a resonant head.
I'd say it's because up until recently, a thicker single ply head wasn't available. Two ply reso heads aren't used much, but they really should sustain longer than a thinner head. I know I'm a convert to the G Pluses, and if the EC1's sustain longer than the G Pluses, then I'm using them (After peeling off the overtone rings of course)
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Pay no attention to what the head manufacturers say. Pay attention to what Sir Isaac Newton said.

Or, pay attention to what this guy (Gatzen) who designs heads for Evans says : here. That clip gives you more than words, you can hear them for yourself.

Meanwhile, 2-plies are a different animal--the two plies have friction between them and thus sustain a shorter time than the equivalent thickness 1-ply. The two are not directly comparable. In fact, it used to be an old drummer's trick to use a 2-ply as a reso on floor toms that sustain too much.
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Pay no attention to what the head manufacturers say. Pay attention to what Sir Isaac Newton said.

Or, pay attention to what this guy (Gatzen) who designs heads for Evans says : here. That clip gives you more than words, you can hear them for yourself.

Meanwhile, 2-plies are a different animal--the two plies have friction between them and thus sustain a shorter time than the equivalent thickness 1-ply. The two are not directly comparable. In fact, it used to be an old drummer's trick to use a 2-ply as a reso on floor toms that sustain too much.
Wow, the EC reso is noticeably fatter and more resonant. Thanks for posting that.

I'm tempted to try G-plus over G-plus now...I've been thinking about trying these heads out for a while now.
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Last year I purchased a set of Evans clear G Plus for use as batters. As you may or may not know, the G Pluses are a 12 mil film, where clear Ambassadors and G1's are a 10 mil film. So I changed to G Pluses on the batters over G1's and I took them to one gig. The G Pluses lacked the attack I like...When I hit my toms with the G Pluses, instead of hearing "Dooom", I heard "Oooom" So off they came.
So today, ever the tweaker, I decide that I want to try the G Pluses as reso heads. I've gathered here that a thicker head will vibrate longer and have a warmer sound than a thinner head.
That's exactly what the result was. My toms note sang noticeably longer, with definite added warmth. I like an open and lively completely unmuffled tom sound with a crisp stick attack. My toms with the G Pluses over the G1's are noticeably better sounding than the same tom with the G1's over the G1's. It kept the attack of the 10 mil film, but sang longer and warmer. I was very pleased with the improvement and the first thing I had to do was to say it here...G Plus Clears make superior sounding reso heads! I'd recommend giving them a try.






Well done it is a fact that that works- some may have noted that I use G2s on my reso and aquarian perf 2s on my batter.........just for that reason!
It does depend on your tuning range and I find for very low to mid tuning this works well- after that it goes dead in a big way!
But in the main it suits rock and blues pretty well- have a listen to the blues tracks from my signature- ALL of the blues where recorded live with that combination.
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Pay no attention to what the head manufacturers say. Pay attention to what Sir Isaac Newton said.

Or, pay attention to what this guy (Gatzen) who designs heads for Evans says : here. That clip gives you more than words, you can hear them for yourself.
Yeah, that's the same clip I linked back in post 16 which is why it's confusing. Evans links to this from their website and my ears tell me it contradicts what they have for head descriptions. Maybe Mr. Gatzen could help a bit with the website design. I like the idea behind the website, but if the info is innacurate what's the point?

I agree Zambizzi, the EC Reso sounds great. And I finally figured out why the Tom I had on my practice kit at my bands place had very little sustain. I had slapped a Genera Reso on it and forgot about it.
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Some Bob Gatzen videos! Excellent!

In one clip he said replace the reso's every 4 times or so you change the batters. -This is what I was wondering! Thanks anyway Zambizzi

The polyester film dries out? These things I didn't know, I might have to purchase his dvd.
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And this long bit from the Drum Tuning Bible::

The most resonance is heard by placing a head of identical specifications on both the batter and resonant side because polymers of equal thickness vibrate reasonably equal to each other when the tension is equal. It is a common misconception that if you have a heavily muffled head on the batter side and place a thinner head on the resonant side, that the resulting sound will be more warm, or bass heavy and more resonant. Actually, the thinner resonant head makes the high frequency tone, that most seek to eliminate come back out of the drum and the bass frequency produced lasts for less of a duration (a good combination for those who like the single ply sound but hit really hard). On the contrary, thicker heads, such as coated heads or thin two ply heads have more mass, and mass once set in motion is harder to stop than a thin head with less mass. For this reason, the thicker resonant head is actually more resonant in the lower frequencies whereas the thinner heads produce the more hollow or upper midrange resonance for less of a duration. High carbon content is required to make the ebony heads. This too adds mass while making the head just a hair more brittle. The resulting sound is a little more focused and slightly void of higher pitched overtones. Pure white, rather than coated white, goes the same direction as ebony heads.
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And this long bit from the Drum Tuning Bible::

The most resonance is heard by placing a head of identical specifications on both the batter and resonant side because polymers of equal thickness vibrate reasonably equal to each other when the tension is equal. It is a common misconception that if you have a heavily muffled head on the batter side and place a thinner head on the resonant side, that the resulting sound will be more warm, or bass heavy and more resonant. Actually, the thinner resonant head makes the high frequency tone, that most seek to eliminate come back out of the drum and the bass frequency produced lasts for less of a duration (a good combination for those who like the single ply sound but hit really hard). On the contrary, thicker heads, such as coated heads or thin two ply heads have more mass, and mass once set in motion is harder to stop than a thin head with less mass. For this reason, the thicker resonant head is actually more resonant in the lower frequencies whereas the thinner heads produce the more hollow or upper midrange resonance for less of a duration. High carbon content is required to make the ebony heads. This too adds mass while making the head just a hair more brittle. The resulting sound is a little more focused and slightly void of higher pitched overtones. Pure white, rather than coated white, goes the same direction as ebony heads.
Awesome, thanks GD.

I was curious about ebony heads and this makes sense. It was my conclusion that ebony or smooth whites sound a little darker as reso kick heads. Coated just doesn't sound as good to me.

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Sorry if I've missed it, but how would a clear G2 over a G Plus sound?
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I think that combination would sound deep, dripping with good tone, and a nice long sustain (unmuffled). A great rock, metal or funk sound.
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That's what I wanted to hear lol. Thanks for the response. I've been curious about the G Plus heads since they've came out. I've been reading that people seem to like them better as reso heads, but I've just seen where they were paired with the G1, I may have missed other threads with the G2's, but yeah, I'm rambling lol. Thanks again!
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Ok another question! I've put a hole in the bass drum reso and finished it off with one of those HOLZ. When should you replace the bass drum reso as it's a special piano white colour to match the rest of the drums and I don't want to get a black or white one!
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I'd say that the bass drum reso is the one head that is replaced the most infrequently compared to all the other heads. Most people keep their "logo" heads for life. I like replacing batters once a year, reso's every 2. BD reso? I hardly give it a 2nd thought. If it's less than 5 years old, I'd keep it on, unless it makes you feel better to replace it, or if it's AFU.
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Summary of the stuff below:-
The more mass a head has the lower it's natural frequency
The more ridgid a head is the higher it's frequency.
The less dampening effect the closer the resonant frequency is to the natural fraquency.
Higher mass and lower dampening produce longer sustain

From an engineering point of view
Factors that Affect Resonance and sustain in drums.
Resonating systems will be described in terms of a "spring system." From a practical point of view, any structural part or combination of assembled parts that can be deflected by a force and then returned to their original positions when the force is removed, can be treated as a "spring system."

In physics, resonance is the tendency of a system to oscillate at its maximum amplitude, associated with specific frequencies known as the system's resonance frequencies. At these frequencies, even small periodic driving forces can produce large amplitude vibrations, because the system stores vibrational energy. When dampening is small, the resonance frequency is approximately equal to the natural frequency of the system, which is the frequency of free vibrations.

Each spring system has its own natural frequency, which, when matched by a vibration frequency, will resonate. Drum shells and drum heads are springs whose resonant frequencies are determined not only by their diameter and mass but also by their rigidity. Objects added to the spring system add mass, and will lower the resonant frequency and may increase vibration damping unless ridgidity is maintained.

Sustain,(the length of time taken for the initial work done by the drumstick to transform into vibrational energy and then into sound energy) will depend on the size of the initial force, the mass of the spring system and the amount of dampening present.
Longer sustain is observed when the initial strike force is higher, the mass of the spring system is higher and the resonant frequency is closest to the natural frequency (i.e there is a small dampening effect)

The more flexible a part, the lower its natural frequency. The more rigid, the higher the natural frequency.
The smaller the deflection of the drum head, the higher the resonance frequency. The greater the static deflection, the lower the resonance frequency.
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It's a law of physics that all things being equal, a thicker head will stay in motion (resonate) for a longer amount of time than a thinner head. I used clear G1's over clear G1's for a long time.(G1's are a 10 mil single ply head) A fine sound, no doubt. As an experiment I tried clear Diplomats, a thinner head, (7.5 mils) as resos. I thought it would make for a livelier tom. I got noticeably less sustain that the G1 over G1 combo. So I went back to the G1's as resos. I tried the clear G plus's (a single ply 12 mil head) as batters and lost the attack I like. Instead of my toms sounding like "doom doom" they sounded like "oom oom" to me. So I went back to the G1 batter. Months later I wanted to experiment again, because I felt my 10" DW tom wasn't sustaining enough. Since I had a set of barely used G plus's laying around I decided to try them as resos. I immediately heard more warmth and sustain from my drums, right in keeping with the law of physics. This does go counter with what Evans claims, but I know what I hear and that's what matters most. I trust my ears and sensibilities over another mans marketing hype any day. Evans make fine heads, not knocking them, I use them, but experiments convinced me that G pluses sustain longer and sound better as resos than the G1's. Now, the EC1's are a 14 mil single ply head, even thicker that the G Plus'. This should make for and even longer sustain. I do have a set of them that I peeled the overtone control rings off of with the help of a blowdryer...(I'll control my overtones thank you very much) but I haven't experimented with them yet. Haven't tried the 2 ply EC2 heads as reso's either, but I will probably experiment with them as well. Meantime, I am very happy and satisfied with the sound of clear G1's over clear G Plus. Next experiment is with the EC1's, I'll make a post when I do.
Sorry to bring up an older post, but was just curious to see if you have experimented with the EC1 and the G Plus yet?
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Not yet Bud, probably won't be for at least a week, the way my schedule is looking
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Since the subject was last reviewed in the Journal,1 there have been important advances in the treatment of locally advanced head and neck squamous-cell carcinoma. These new approaches incorporate chemotherapy into initial curative treatment to achieve organ preservation and to improve survival. Moreover, progress in the elucidation of the molecular genetic changes that lead to the development of these tumors should soon bring novel diagnostic and therapeutic procedures into clinical practice. This review will highlight these important advances in the treatment of patients with head and neck cancer (Table 1) and emphasize the ways in which molecular biology is likely to affect the development of future therapies.
i cant make out, whether or not that was off topic :S
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Just to clarify gentlemen, a G1 and a Genera are both 10 mil. The Genera Reso is made of a slightly softer material.

I've been thinking of trying the clear G pluses as reso's under clear G2's. Anyone still using this combo with good results?

I experimented with EC2's as reso's for 3 days with not good results. They would be great in an all cement drum booth though.
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