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Old 02-19-2009, 05:21 PM
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Well i bought a kit a couple weeks ago. Im a beginner so go easy on me.





I already replaced the horrible cymbals it came with (aquarian) with some Paiste pst 3's..much better.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:50 AM
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nice looks like a great beginner kit.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:08 AM
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Great kit! One thing...fix:

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Old 02-20-2009, 01:41 AM
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Hmm interesting i suppose that's not aquarian as in the drum head maker who made those cymbals is it? Speaking of which maybe a new set of those, some isolation headphones or a matching ride cymbal would have been a wiser investment over those ahead sticks of yours.
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Hmm interesting i suppose that's not aquarian as in the drum head maker who made those cymbals is it? Speaking of which maybe a new set of those, some isolation headphones or a matching ride cymbal would have been a wiser investment over those ahead sticks of yours.
It's an Agazarian cymbal.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:48 AM
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Welcome to the forum and to the world of drums. Nice looking starting set you have there.

I would concur with a previous post and maybe look into moving your floor tom a little- though if its comfortable where it is and you can play it with without your playing being affected by your second rack tom then go with what 'feels' right
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I was actually considering getting that set before I had money haha
but the psts are a great beginner cymbal (a huge step up from agazarian!) haha
but good luck man and welcome to the forum
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Hmm interesting i suppose that's not aquarian as in the drum head maker who made those cymbals is it? Speaking of which maybe a new set of those, some isolation headphones or a matching ride cymbal would have been a wiser investment over those ahead sticks of yours.
Don't diss the aheads.
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Don't diss the aheads.
No man, he wasn't dissing them. He simply said that a new ride or isolation headphones would be a better investment. Ahead sticks are more of a luxury than an accessory. Of course, this could be said for all drumming gear, but that's for a different thread=D
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Your floor tom is up the wrong way. Leg holder thingy majigy's are suppose to be closer to the bottom.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:57 AM
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Great for a beginner kit!

Always good to see new people on the forum, welcome!
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Your floor tom is up the wrong way. Leg holder thingy majigy's are suppose to be closer to the bottom.
Yep, I thought something looked off.
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Thanks for the response guys.

I already fixed the floor tom.. i assembled it upside down (duh).

The ahead sticks were a gift from my girlfriend. Yes im a metallica fan.

I plan to replace all the drum heads with evans and as money allows invest in cymbals.

Im learning basics beats now from freedrumlessons.com. and having fun with it. I play guitar but wanted to play drums also.

I can see this will be as addicting as the guitar gear..i want cymbals, double bass pedal, drum heads.. i could go on and on...

BTW.. what are isoloation headphones for?

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Old 02-20-2009, 06:51 AM
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Isolation headphones are to protect your hearing. What? Huh? Say again...

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BTW.. what are isoloation headphones for?
They are really an essential for any budding young drummer. Basically, they protect your hearing very effectively but at the same time being powered headphones meaning you can practice along to songs without having to have them at a deafening volume just so you can hear it over your drums. They also have an inexplicable property of making your drums sound a lot better, which encourages more playing.

Have you got the basics down in tuning yet? If you like metal then you should tune the bass and toms down very low, so that you just about iron out all the wrinkles on them. Then tune the snare up very high which will give you a really nice tight sound.
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Old 02-20-2009, 06:06 PM
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Im still experimenting with tuning. The bass and larger mounted tom vibrate the other drums and snares. I need to try some bass drum muffling i think.

Ill pick up those headphones this weekend too. Sounds like a good idea.
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Do you folks think this is a good deal? Are the pst5's much better than the 3's?

http://worcester.craigslist.org/msg/1042822798.html
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Do you folks think this is a good deal? Are the pst5's much better than the 3's?

http://worcester.craigslist.org/msg/1042822798.html
Yes, there's actually a thread about this going on now, but the PST 5s are considerably better than the 3's. Plus, it comes with a boom stand, which I'd say is a great deal! See if you can haggle down to 80, but even if not, go for it.
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Old 02-21-2009, 12:03 AM
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I think i will thanks
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Keep in mind that the crash is worth $80 brand new; so you're really just buying it new, with a boom stand for free.
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Old 02-21-2009, 12:23 AM
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18" thin crash from GC is 102.90 so looks like a good deal.
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Old 02-21-2009, 02:59 AM
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18" thin crash from GC is 102.90 so looks like a good deal.
You can't just go with Guitar Center's price. http://jacksmusicstore.com/catalog/p...-crh-g~cy65218 - only $89 there!
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:24 AM
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Oh nice. Still seems like a good deal with a free stand
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You can't just go with Guitar Center's price. http://jacksmusicstore.com/catalog/p...-crh-g~cy65218 - only $89 there!
lol minimum order $90! You'll have to buy a pick as well or something.
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lol minimum order $90! You'll have to buy a pick as well or something.
Unless he lives in Arkansas, Hawaii, or PR.
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Old 02-22-2009, 12:28 AM
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Well i got it.. stand is not the greatest..but hey..what u want for free...



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Old 02-22-2009, 12:43 AM
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Hey, welcome to the Forum and thanks for sharing...also, welcome to drumming...it is an addition I picked up late this past year and LOVE IT; but then again I always have just never began until August 08.

ENJOY!!!
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Old 02-22-2009, 01:22 AM
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Thanks, so far its a lot of fun
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Hi mangwhop. Welcome to the forum. This is a great site for you to ask questions and learn a bit about the big world of drumming and music. I hope you enjoy your stay.
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Do you folks think this is a good deal? Are the pst5's much better than the 3's?
How have you found the PST5s?
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Well i got it.. stand is not the greatest..but hey..what u want for free...



Nice! How do you like the cymbal? I bet it's a lot better than the PST 3.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:12 PM
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cymbal sounds great.

Cool part was when i met him to buy it he told me he was playing a bar near where i live. Me and my girlfriend went out and saw them play. They sounded really good.

All in all had a great day yesterday.
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cymbal sounds great.

Cool part was when i met him to buy it he told me he was playing a bar near where i live. Me and my girlfriend went out and saw them play. They sounded really good.

All in all had a great day yesterday.
Haha that's cool, I love how one thing leads to another.
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Thanks for the response guys.

I already fixed the floor tom.. i assembled it upside down (duh).

The ahead sticks were a gift from my girlfriend. Yes im a metallica fan.

I plan to replace all the drum heads with evans and as money allows invest in cymbals.

Im learning basics beats now from freedrumlessons.com. and having fun with it. I play guitar but wanted to play drums also.

I can see this will be as addicting as the guitar gear..i want cymbals, double bass pedal, drum heads.. i could go on and on...

BTW.. what are isoloation headphones for?
All sounds like a good plan of attack. The girlfriend's support is a real luxury so treat her accordingly.

I'm not sure what your budget looks like, but you'll end up hearing a lot of quality over quantity advice for the remainder of your life on this forum - starting with me. Just know it all comes from a good place.

Your gear seems perfect for your situation. Take your upgrades slowly and carefully. Having said that, quality heads are priority number next for you. They will help shape the sound of your drums and will respond better than beginner heads. That response will help in your technique with nice rebound and such.

In regards to any money you plan on putting into your kit, I would suggest resisting the urge of instant gratification. Meaning: getting something right now, new, because it's staring at you. Consider the dollar amount you have to spend and check ebay for stuff in that range. For example: a new PDP double pedal at Guitar Center for $100 v. a used DW 5000 double pedal for $200. Sure it's twice as much, but it's more than twice the pedal.

Hearing protection, yet? Make sure that happens.

That's it for the unsolicited advice.

Welcome to the forum. I can't wait to watch your progression. And rule number one: always post us pics of your gear. If we don't see it, you don't have it. ;-)
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All sounds like a good plan of attack. The girlfriend's support is a real luxury so treat her accordingly.
Yes, treat her very accordingly indeed ;-)


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I'm not sure what your budget looks like, but you'll end up hearing a lot of quality over quantity advice for the remainder of your life on this forum - starting with me. Just know it all comes from a good place.

Your gear seems perfect for your situation. Take your upgrades slowly and carefully. Having said that, quality heads are priority number next for you. They will help shape the sound of your drums and will respond better than beginner heads. That response will help in your technique with nice rebound and such.

In regards to any money you plan on putting into your kit, I would suggest resisting the urge of instant gratification. Meaning: getting something right now, new, because it's staring at you. Consider the dollar amount you have to spend and check ebay for stuff in that range. For example: a new PDP double pedal at Guitar Center for $100 v. a used DW 5000 double pedal for $200. Sure it's twice as much, but it's more than twice the pedal.

Hearing protection, yet? Make sure that happens.

That's it for the unsolicited advice.

Welcome to the forum. I can't wait to watch your progression. And rule number one: always post us pics of your gear. If we don't see it, you don't have it. ;-)
This is a gold-standard piece of advice. Whenever you think about saving a few bucks on something drum related think about how you will feel in a year from now. You'll never remember how much money you saved/spent or what you were going to spend the extra money you saved on but you will still have to live with the item you bought, bad or good.

As for double pedal, DW5000/7000, Iron Cobra, Eliminator. Basically if the pedal you're looking at contains either of those 3 words then you're onto a winner. All brilliant pedals in the midrange chain drive category and a lot of professional drummers swear by them.
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I love how I'm a perfect example of nearly everything a beginner drummer shouldn't do.
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Old 02-22-2009, 10:25 PM
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Well im getting new heads next payday so i thought id experiment with the bass drum port hole. It did make a difference. The bass doesnt seem to "ring" forever and i also stuffed a blanky inside.

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I love how I'm a perfect example of nearly everything a beginner drummer shouldn't do.
You've turned that ship around 180 degrees. Be proud of yourself, your gear, and your playing. Good work.

BTW dozens of us have walked in a similar path as yourself. Please don't think when someone references a story that is familiar to you, that you were targeted. It's just not the case. Peace, 805, peace.
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You've turned that ship around 180 degrees. Be proud of yourself, your gear, and your playing. Good work.

BTW dozens of us have walked in a similar path as yourself. Please don't think when someone references a story that is familiar to you, that you were targeted. It's just not the case. Peace, 805, peace.
Oh, I know! I might have sounded bitter, but I actually laughed when I read what you wrote.

Also, mangwhop, that stand that came with the PST 5...what stand is that?! It looks like a really nice one, maybe from the 70s or 80s.
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Nice guitars there! A lot of people don't like damping but i think for metal a bit of damping is very good for gettinng a tighter sound/feel.
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