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Oh god...I was just practicing my double bass, when all of a sudden, I go to retune my SuperKick II, when I notice it has a huge rip in it!
It didn't break all the way through, but the first thin layer of the head completely ripped open, and now it's kind of just flapping about!
So what should I do? Is the head done for? I would REALLY prefer not to spend another $50 now...
Should I run to the local music store real quick and buy a bass drum patch?
I just really want to be able to play when by DW 5000s arrive, and this sucks!

Will a bass drum patch over the rips affect the sound of the head?
Or is there anything else I can do?
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Call aquarian, they may send you a new one. Also, tune it tighter next time.
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Sell your new Hoodie on eBay and buy a head.
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LOL, I think I'm gonna call Aquarian...I love my new hoodie=D

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Define "huge", how big is it? A patch should hold you for a while although it'll affect the sound. I've played through this problem before but didn't wait too long just in case, replaced it within a couple weeks or so.
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Define "huge", how big is it? A patch should hold you for a while although it'll affect the sound. I've played through this problem before but didn't wait too long just in case, replaced it within a couple weeks or so.
I'm not gonna lie, the closest way I can describe it is that it looks like a swastika with three lines instead of four, with a whole in the middle, about the diameter of a pencil. A patch would cover most of it.

Would Aquarian really send me a new one? And would it be better to call or email them?
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I'm not gonna lie, the closest way I can describe it is that it looks like a swastika with three lines instead of four, with a whole in the middle, about the diameter of a pencil. A patch would cover most of it.

Would Aquarian really send me a new one? And would it be better to call or email them?
Depends on whether you want to be on hold for 5 hours or waiting for a reply for 2 weeks. I have no experience with Aquarian but this is my experience with customer service in general.
But you really might as well patch it unless you got big gigs or whatever coming up where it's really important that you have a bass head without patches.
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Depends on whether you want to be on hold for 5 hours or waiting for a reply for 2 weeks. I have no experience with Aquarian but this is my experience with customer service in general.
But you really might as well patch it unless you got big gigs or whatever coming up where it's really important that you have a bass head without patches.
There wouldn't be a 5 hour or 2 week waiting period. If it is a new head, they may replace it. Email them. They usually respond the same day. If it is an old head, don't bother . Eaither way, the head is shot and you need a new one. You should always use a patch. Using one such as a Remo falams will extend the life of the head.
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Patch are the way to go, Aquarian offer the traditional Kickpad and the thin kickpad.
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Yeah, I'm definitely emailing them with a picture, because this head is only three weeks old.

Ooh, and this gives me an excuse to get a patch! I was planning on getting the Aquarian one, because I've heard bad things about the Falams. Either that, or the Evans EQ.
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You could also use a double kick pad to be sure it covers.
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Oh, well, duh. Haha.
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I don't understand. Is it a hole or a rip?
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I don't understand. Is it a hole or a rip?
It's a shallow rip, with a whole in the middle. It only goes through 1 ply, though. I just sent an email to Aquarian. However, now it's time to break out the Yamaha DD-55! I forgot how awesome this thing is.
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It's a shallow rip, with a whole in the middle. It only goes through 1 ply, though. I just sent an email to Aquarian. However, now it's time to break out the Yamaha DD-55! I forgot how awesome this thing is.
Are you kidding? hahaha DD-55...
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Are you kidding? hahaha DD-55...
Say what you want, but I love my 55. I think I'll make a video of me playing it...it's so cool! With my nice headphones, it sounds better than a studio! Plus, I can switch from jazz to rock to metal in seconds! I can customize each pad to make it sound exactly how I want it...even double bass!
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Say what you want, but I love my 55. I think I'll make a video of me playing it...it's so cool! With my nice headphones, it sounds better than a studio! Plus, I can switch from jazz to rock to metal in seconds! I can customize each pad to make it sound exactly how I want it...even double bass!
Doesn't it lag if you hit to fast? Like if you did a drum roll?
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Doesn't it lag if you hit to fast? Like if you did a drum roll?
Nope! You'd think it would, but it's a very well made product. The only disadvantage is that it's set up really compact...not like a real drumset. But I can do incredibly fast rolls on it. I'll make a video soon to showcase it.
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LOL, I think I'm gonna call Aquarian...I love my new hoodie=D

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Well, it has to do with a certain sponsorship, I don't know if it would be in the company's best interest for me to ask for opinions publicly...
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I just got off the phone with Mr. Roy Burns from Aquarian, and he was very nice! He said he would send me a Superkick III, with the power dot so I don't break another one=D
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I just got off the phone with Mr. Roy Burns from Aquarian, and he was very nice! He said he would send me a Superkick III, with the power dot so I don't break another one=D
Told you so... :) good for you. Glad you didn't go out burn money for a new head. I'd still use a patch tho.
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Told you so... :) good for you. Glad you didn't go out burn money for a new head. I'd still use a patch tho.
Isn't the patch on top of the head? Or is it inside? Because it's obviously not a double bass patch, and wouldn't putting another one on top of it make it lopsided?
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Told you so... :) good for you. Glad you didn't go out burn money for a new head. I'd still use a patch tho.
He said he'd send him a patch too. haha

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Isn't the patch on top of the head? Or is it inside? Because it's obviously not a double bass patch, and wouldn't putting another one on top of it make it lopsided?
The dot will be on top of the head. there is no harm in putting another patch of your choice over the dot already on the head. It will enhance the attack a little more and prolong the life of the head even longer.
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The dot will be on top of the head. there is no harm in putting another patch of your choice over the dot already on the head. It will enhance the attack a little more and prolong the life of the head even longer.
But won't the double patch be lopsided if it's going on top of a single patch?

EDIT: Oh, never mind. I just saw a picture of it; the power dot is HUGE.
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Glad it worked out for you. Aquarian has great customer service.

Remember the second part of my advice: Tune the new head a little tighter. It is easier to break a head when it is very loose.

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Glad it worked out for you. Aquarian has great customer service.

Remember the second part of my advice: Tune the new head a little tighter. It is easier to break a head when it is very loose.

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Thank you, I'll definitely do that. The SKII was very loose!

As long as there's nothing wrong with it, I think I'll put some packing tape on my head right now so that I can temporarily play it.
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I was gonna suggest packing tape. That'll probably last a good while.
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I just got off the phone with Mr. Roy Burns from Aquarian, and he was very nice! He said he would send me a Superkick III, with the power dot so I don't break another one=D

You got to talk to Roy Burns? Maybe I should rip a head...
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Heh, fanboy :)
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Good to hear you're getting a new head without the 5 hour hold time I predicted. I hope this one holds up.
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I did talk to him too last November :p
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I did talk to him too last November :p
He was very nice, but I don't think he has many kids call him.
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Try the Aquarian kick pads. The superthin one that they make does wonders. It will change your sound, but only for the better I think. I used to use the Remo Falam ones when I was in metal bands cause I played with plastic beaters and they get a really good click sound, but I recently switched genres and tried the thin aquarian one with felt beaters and its perfect. Adds just enough definition without messing up your tone at all.

Regardless, use some kind of patch. It will save you TONS of money in the long run. I once put a plastic beater straight through an EMAD head cause I got cheap and tried to play without a patch. Oops.

Oh, and don't bother with the Evans one. I bought one once cause it was all I could get at the shop that day and I wore straight through it in like a week. I mean, they're made of cloth it looks like. C'mon.
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Try the Aquarian kick pads. The superthin one that they make does wonders. It will change your sound, but only for the better I think. I used to use the Remo Falam ones when I was in metal bands cause I played with plastic beaters and they get a really good click sound, but I recently switched genres and tried the thin aquarian one with felt beaters and its perfect. Adds just enough definition without messing up your tone at all.

Regardless, use some kind of patch. It will save you TONS of money in the long run. I once put a plastic beater straight through an EMAD head cause I got cheap and tried to play without a patch. Oops.

Oh, and don't bother with the Evans one. I bought one once cause it was all I could get at the shop that day and I wore straight through it in like a week. I mean, they're made of cloth it looks like. C'mon.
I wasn't going to go with the Remo one, because like you said, I heard really bad things about it. Roy Burns even said that he won't refund it again if it breaks, if I don't use a patch.
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I wasn't going to go with the Remo one, because like you said, I heard really bad things about it. Roy Burns even said that he won't refund it again if it breaks, if I don't use a patch.
What "really bad things" have you been hearing about Remo Falams Patches. I have been using them since they came out. They last forever and can extend the life of a head for a very long time.
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Well, it has to do with a certain sponsorship, I don't know if it would be in the company's best interest for me to ask for opinions publicly...
You should just ask here. The only way you'll really know if an endorsement (sponsorship is something different, and not something you are looking for right now) is worth it is to talk to people about it, especially those who have a deal. I would start a new thread.
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What "really bad things" have you been hearing about Remo Falams Patches. I have been using them since they came out. They last forever and can extend the life of a head for a very long time.
I know they last a long time, but I've read that they make the drum sound a little more dead. Of course, it's all opinion, but it's like Pitch Blacks: Most people don't like them, and very few do...

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You should just ask here. The only way you'll really know if an endorsement (sponsorship is something different, and not something you are looking for right now) is worth it is to talk to people about it, especially those who have a deal. I would start a new thread.
I actually got a message from wloeb, and he gave me some VERY helpful advice, and basically said I shouldn't do it. I asked the guy at TRX (the company) about what wloeb said, and he never replied.
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I know they last a long time, but I've read that they make the drum sound a little more dead. Of course, it's all opinion, but it's like Pitch Blacks: Most people don't like them, and very few do...



I actually got a message from wloeb, and he gave me some VERY helpful advice, and basically said I shouldn't do it. I asked the guy at TRX (the company) about what wloeb said, and he never replied.
now I'm curious. :)
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