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Old 02-14-2009, 03:02 PM
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Default Fiberskyn Ambassador III

A few photos of the new Fiberskyn III on the Renowns. A little more mellow than the G2 coated and a very vintage look.
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Old 02-14-2009, 03:53 PM
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They look good.I just put some G2 coated on my Sonor kit lastnight with G1 clears on the bottom.Totally different sound from the EC2's i had on there.
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:22 PM
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I love the G2 over G1 combo, but my batters were wearing out so I thought a little field test was in order.
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Old 02-14-2009, 05:00 PM
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Looks very nice. I am thinking about getting a rack soon. All around nice looking kit, and I bet it sounds great too.
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I liked Fiberskyn heads as they were pretty far from a plastic sound.
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Old 02-15-2009, 03:42 PM
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How do they sound compared to the G2's?
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A little more mellow than the G2 coated and a very vintage look.
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Old 02-15-2009, 03:46 PM
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I contacted Shane since my Sonor kit is basswood,and he told me i would be sold on the G2 over G1 setup and he was right.Totally opened the drums with a warm sound.Now i just have to improve on my tuning.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:40 AM
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They look nice. I am thinking about getting Fiberskyn Ambassador IIIs instead of coated ambassdors. Any thoughts on how they would hold up with brushes (mostly in terms of wear, say on snare)?

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Grunter,
I'm a big fan of the Fiberskyn heads. Did you keep the G1's underneath?
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Yes. I do like the sound.
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Do those toms have 5 lugs?
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The 8, 10, and 12 do. The 14 has 6.
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They look nice. I am thinking about getting Fiberskyn Ambassador IIIs instead of coated ambassdors. Any thoughts on how they would hold up with brushes (mostly in terms of wear, say on snare)?

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My guess is better than coated, since the coating wears off and these don't have a coating.
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My guess is better than coated, since the coating wears off and these don't have a coating.
Thanks for the feedback! I am learning more about these heads. I just learned that the Fiberskyn is a bit thicker than other heads, so I may go with Fiberskyn III Diplomat (which I understand is more comparable to the Coated Ambassador as opposed to the Fiberskyn Ambassador III which is more comparable to the Coated Emperors. If me likey, I may move away from the Coated Remos and Evans G1s on the batters.

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Old 02-24-2009, 01:38 AM
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Fiberskyn's are GREAT for brushes. They don't wear out like coated heads and the sound is even all around with brushes.
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fiberskyns are horrible for brushes.
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I don't have a Fibreskin on my snare so I don't know about the brushes.
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Old 02-24-2009, 06:27 AM
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fiberskyns are horrible for brushes.
Any more detail here? Too dry perhaps? Does the finish flake or separate somehow? Snags the brushes too much? I thought that Jeff Hamilton uses these for his set ...

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Alright G-Diddy, you got 'em! I get a hankering for these heads every now and again. I just swapped back out for clear ambassadors but I'll use my FS's again sometime.

I like them, nice dark vintage tone with lots of low-end. You get what I describe as a heavy "dunk" sound.
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Fiberskyn heads are amazing for brushes, but it's a smooth sound and not scratchy like coated heads. What is nice here is that it's an even sound and not like a coated head that develops patches of scratchy coating and smooth spots giving an uneven sound. With Fiberskyns and Renaissance heads it's a smooth swish all around. Watch the Steve Smith and Jeff Hamilton brush battle, they are both using Fiberskyn Diplomat snare heads.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:13 AM
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Well thats what I don't like about them, for brushes. They don't have any "grit" which doesn't make a good swish sound. Also, they bubble up quickly and than you'll have a "slurp" sound when your brush passes over the bubbles.

I like these heads, they sound great new, (not for brushes), but they will bubble up quickly making them sound bad. So if you can afford to change them often, well they're a good choice.
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Renaissance heads are a nice touch for snares at least
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Old 02-25-2009, 08:30 PM
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Well thats what I don't like about them, for brushes. They don't have any "grit" which doesn't make a good swish sound. Also, they bubble up quickly and than you'll have a "slurp" sound when your brush passes over the bubbles.

I like these heads, they sound great new, (not for brushes), but they will bubble up quickly making them sound bad. So if you can afford to change them often, well they're a good choice.
Bubbles! Sounds like a radiation burn or something. I can't even visualize what this is. :)

In any case, I will definitely check out the Fiberskyn and Renaissance heads for my next replacements and see how my mileage may vary.

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Here's an example from an old thread of mine - look at the last photo:

http://drummerworld.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=25
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:58 PM
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Whoa!!! It does look like a radiation burn, but I imagine it looked better when taut over the head. Maybe??

I like my snare tuned somewhat high too. Couldn't tell whether that was a pic of a Diplomat or Ambassador equivalent ...

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Well I just got one for my Acrolite snare (Ambassador weight). Previously I had Coated Ambassador. As reported here, the Fiberskyn III seems a little thicker, but me likey so far. It is a bit more mellow (which is cool), but I didn't have to break in the head to use brushes. It is less gritty sounding for brush work, but provided that the head holds up, the sound will be more consistent over its surface and its life I expect.

I may go for these on my toms too at some point.

One thing I found a bit more difficult was the tuning. The "just beyond wrinkle method" doesn't work too well because you can't see the wrinkles! Perhaps the tuning issue I have is because the Fiberskyn is a little deader sounding due to heavier weight. Not sure yet what to make of it. Got a snare side Aquarian Hi Performance. I usually like ringy, but not sure if the blend is right now that the bottom head seems to rings much longer than top head.

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Everything I've heard about them is all positive minus the bubbling. I've played with a few guys in my area who have them on all the shells and they just rave and rave about how great they are(if you're playing Jazz that is). I ordered some for christmas and a new pair of vic firth jazz brushes so I'm really excited to hear them! Not only that, they give a vintage look to a vintage set!
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Nice Fybers Grunter...
They're the only thing I'll put on my Gretsch.

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I just got one in ambassador weight for my snare and when there tuned up a medium high they make my snare nice and sensitive. They're pretty mellow as people have said before which is just fine for me since my snare was always a bit harsh sounding. Thankfully the snare is 7" deep so even when i tune it high it still has body.
P.s. im playing classic rock and some funk with this head and tuning.
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I just got one in ambassador weight for my snare and when there tuned up a medium high they make my snare nice and sensitive. They're pretty mellow as people have said before which is just fine for me since my snare was always a bit harsh sounding. .....
A wild snare sound is a good reason to get a Fiberskyn for the snare. It will mellow out the timbre. I've used both the Fiberskyn FA heads and the newer Skyntone (which I didn't like as much) on a couple of snares. Sound wise, I liked them for brushes - mostly. I liked the stick sound - mostly - but only if I would be using the snare for quieter traditional jazz only. What I did miss on these heads is the stick sounds for other louder styles, especially when playing back beats. There's a bit less attack so I felt myself resorting to rim shots all the time or just playing harder without the results I wanted.

For brushes, I did like the right-out-of-the-box brush feel they had. However as others have said, not as much surface sound as I would like. Now, a traditional coated head is too abrasive right out of the box. So I only have two alternatives:
1) Don't use the snare with coated heads until they break in for a couple of weeks
2) Sand the coated head until they are about where I want them.

I'm choosing mostly option 2 these days although there is a nagging feeling that I'm reducing the overall life of these heads by doing so.

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P.s. im playing classic rock and some funk with this head and tuning.
I'm sure the toms will sound good and hopefully the snare sound is working as well. Just be aware that the bubbling (known as delamination) folks talk about may happen quicker than you'd like. I've observed that this happened on my snares after I started playing moderate to loud volume with sticks. I don't think it affects the sound that much at first. It just feels like a junky's facial itch needing to be scratched and I can't live with it too long. Steve Smith and Jeff Hamilton both use these heads and I've never seen any video or pics of delamination on their drums but.......I'm thinking a top drawer Remo endorsee has a pile of new heads and changes them at the first sight of bubbles. Not what your average Joe can do.

IMHO, the FA's do have a sweet sound for the right application. They also have a great look.

BTW: Gruntersdad - I noticed you still have a coated Evans on your snare, Is that permanent or are you going to a Fiberskyn Ambassador there soon as well?
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