Flat Ride Cymbal

[DW-jazz-drummer]

I am currently looking into buying a flat ride. Suggestions?

I would go with Bosphorous because I love everything they make. Thats just my opinion though. What size?

[mofle]

They are both Bosphorus..
The main difference is that the turk is dry as hell, while the regular will be a bit more shimmery. What sound are you looking for?

[DW-jazz-drummer]

I'm not set on size, but I'm looking at a 21". Also I might want one rivet in it.

[LeeLovesSabian]

You have to remember when buying a flat ride.
There isn't a bell on it.

If you don't use bells, then go for it.
Just thought I'd throw some Obvious crap on here.

[Drifter in the Dark]

I've heard a lot of good things about old Paiste 602 flat rides (might be a good option if you're buying used). If you can afford it, I would suggest going with one of the genuine Turkish companies (Istanbul or Bosphorus).

[KCDrummer]

I have a Bosphorus Master Series 22" flat and I love it. It's a quiet cymbal though, I don't use it for anything bigger than a quartet. If you want something that will cut a bit more, go with the Turk.

If you get the Turk, I wouldn't put any rivets in it. To me, part of the appeal of the Turk Series is that clean, dry stick sound and the almost non-existent decay. I think putting a rivet in it would mess that sound up. For my Master flat, I'll often put a sizzle chain on it. I like having the option (to sizzle or not to sizzle) and with how thin and wobbly these cymbals are, I think a chain sounds better than rivets.

[DW-jazz-drummer]

I guess I threw the rivet out the door now. How crashable is your 22" masters? I guess that's what I'm looking for, a cymbal for trio and small combos.

[Steamer]

Originally Posted by DW-jazz-drummer

I guess that's what I'm looking for, a cymbal for trio and small combos.

19-22" Istanbul Agop Turk Jazz Ride, 19- 22" regular SE Jazz Ride or the 22" SE TW Jazz Ride,19- 22" green label Agop Signature ride, Mel Lewis 21" 2 rivet ride or if you can find one my personal all time favorite for lower volume quiet trio situations that has its own built in dark sizzle the now rarely seen up for grabs 22" 06 Limited Edition Collector's Series low bell {jazz bell} ride.

None are flats but all are very crashable and all will kill in a trio or small ensemble jazz situation.

[RobertM]

Stan's suggestions are really good, but I'll also thrown in the Bosphorus Hammer series ride 20". This is an *excellent* jazz ride for combo/trio playing: dark, articulate, and still very crashable. Very great cymbals.

[DW-jazz-drummer]

I currently have Bosphorus , 22 hammer, 20 turk, and an 18 antique. So I need a different sound. That's why flat rides were sounding very nice, because of their control.

[RobertM]

Then I would try a Zildjian K Custom flat top ride. Very dark, dry, crisp stick definition, with great control. I saw Roy Haynes play this cymbal live at a gig and went and ordered one days later. I've used the K Custom flat top ride for a couple of years now and love it.

The Bosphorus Versa flat ride also sounds nice.

[Steamer]

Originally Posted by DW-jazz-drummer

I currently have Bosphorus , 22 hammer, 20 turk, and an 18 antique. So I need a different sound. That's why flat rides were sounding very nice, because of their control.

Okay. Mel Lewis 21" 2 rivet ride, 19-20" regular SE Jazz Ride or 19-20" Agop Sig would fit the bill nicely with your other cymbals for contrast.

Not a big fan of flat rides never have been, just me guys so no worries. If going the flatride only route consider Robert's suggestions.

[kgrubb]

Originally Posted by Drifter in the Dark

I've heard a lot of good things about old Paiste 602 flat rides (might be a good option if you're buying used). If you can afford it, I would suggest going with one of the genuine Turkish companies (Istanbul or Bosphorus).

I second that on the 602 flat ride but if you can't afford one i suggest the bosphorus versa flat ride i've heard a few people compare them to the old 602 flat rides

[Skitch]

Originally Posted by DW-jazz-drummer

I am currently looking into buying a flat ride. Suggestions?

I once owned a K series Flat Top Ride which had a very intriguing sound to it! You may be able to find one like this on Ebay.


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[FunkyJazzer]

Meinl Byzance Jazz Club Ride.

Or the normal Byzance Jazz Flat Ride...It's a bit dull sounding though, and doesn't crash too well.

[mbettis]

People seem to like this one...






20" and 1992 grams.

Sounds like this.

Later,
Matt

[bilkay]

Originally Posted by RobertM

Then I would try a Zildjian K Custom flat top ride.

The K Custom flat top is my favorite flat. I have a 20".

Brighter flats include the Bosphorus Master and the Paiste Signature (really bright). Another relatively bright and shimmery alternative is a vintage Paiste 2002 (black label). The Paiste 602 is another good option but it may be high dollars. A lot of folks swear by the Paiste Sound Creation Mellow ride, which has a tiny bubble of a bell but it's really a flat ride. On the drier/darker side from Paiste is the Traditionals flat. I have an 18" that is bone-dry.

If you're sticking with the Bosphorus line, you can't go wrong with the 22" Master.

[Drummer Karl]

I personally like those Istanbul Agop Turk and Special Edition Jazz flat rides, especially the 20" ones.
The Turks sound very very dry as Zack said before. I like the dry and clean stick definition, it lacks of that sparkling sound but comes with even more of that woody stick.

I can recommend to check out www.cymbalsonly.com in this case. You can listen to sound clips there...

Karl