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Old 11-30-2008, 01:53 AM
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...Got a Remo Coated Ambassador for my 14" Birch PDP 805 snare drum!

Problem is, it was totally impulse. So what should I do with it? Would it be could for a snare side head? Or should it replace my Hi-Energy? Much thanks,

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You bought a coated Ambassador knowing that you already have a batter head? Take it back and get a clear, then put it on your snare side.
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Old 11-30-2008, 02:17 AM
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You bought a coated Ambassador knowing that you already have a batter head? Take it back and get a clear, then put it on your snare side.
Haha, I'm on vacation, and I leave tomorrow morning...I can't take it back. But I don't mind keeping it until I get a new snare drum...however, would it work as a snare side head?
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Do you already have a spare snare head? I always take one with me wherever I gig. All it took was one snare head breaking during a recording session for me to learn my lesson. Plus, if you are in the middle of a practice session, you can change the head without having to drive all the way to the store...
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Do you already have a spare snare head? I always take one with me wherever I gig. All it took was one snare head breaking during a recording session for me to learn my lesson. Plus, if you are in the middle of a practice session, you can change the head without having to drive all the way to the store...
Well...I'm not a super-hard hitter, and I have a pretty strong Hi-energy head, so I'd rather just use it now...can I use it as a snare side head?
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Haha, I'm on vacation, and I leave tomorrow morning...I can't take it back. But I don't mind keeping it until I get a new snare drum...however, would it work as a snare side head?
Yes, it will work fine, you probably won't notice much of a difference between clear and coated on the snare side, but anything is better than a stock head.
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Well...I'm not a super-hard hitter, and I have a pretty strong Hi-energy head, so I'd rather just use it now...can I use it as a snare side head?
Nope. Too thick. What head do you have on your batter right now? Hi-energy?
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Nope. Too thick. What head do you have on your batter right now? Hi-energy?
Yeah, I have a hi-energy on the batter. Is it seriously too thick? I thought it was single ply!
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Yeah, I have a hi-energy on the batter. Is it seriously too thick? I thought it was single ply!
It is single ply.

But snare side heads are about 2-3 mil, less then half the weight of your ambassador. My advice is to just save it.
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My philosophy is that you can't go wrong by trying it out and seeing how it sounds.
Well, I could go wrong, because my current stock head is stretched super-tight, and won't be usable once I take it off. Is it not common to use an ambassador as a side head? Or would my snare sound better if I just replaced the hi energy?

So, um, would it work?
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Yeah, I have a hi-energy on the batter. Is it seriously too thick? I thought it was single ply!
Yes, single ply 7 - 10 mil for batters....typically.

Snare sides usually 3-5 mil.

It will be too thick and non-articulate enough. If that makes sense...lol.
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Check out the remo/evans website (or whatever drumhead manufacturer you like). I like evans personally. They make heads specificly for the reso (such as the hazy 300). If you put the ambassador on it'll sound dead.
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Check out the remo/evans website (or whatever drumhead manufacturer you like). I like evans personally. They make heads specificly for the reso (such as the hazy 300). If you put the ambassador on it'll sound dead.
So if the Ambassador is too thick, should I use it for my batter head? Will it sound better than the hi-energy?
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So if the Ambassador is too thick, should I use it for my batter head? Will it sound better than the hi-energy?
No.

Nothing sounds better than anything else. It just sounds different. I thought you loved your current snare drum head?
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Nothing sounds better than anything else. It just sounds different. I thought you loved your current snare drum head?
I do. But I want a snare side head. Would it completely kill the snare sound to use the Ambassador, or would it just be a bit more muffled?
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Do you already have a spare snare head? I always take one with me wherever I gig. All it took was one snare head breaking during a recording session for me to learn my lesson. Plus, if you are in the middle of a practice session, you can change the head without having to drive all the way to the store...
I agree. Keep the Ambassador around as a spare batter head (NOT snare-side head, that's just silly!) in the rare event that your Hi-Energy breaks.
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I agree. Keep the Ambassador around as a spare batter head (NOT snare-side head, that's just silly!) in the rare event that your Hi-Energy breaks.
Actually, I'm tempted to just try out the Ambassador as a batter head, to see how it sounds, who knows, I might like it? Either way, I'm eventually buying/getting a new snare drum, so we'll see. But heads are so cheap anyways, although they could be cheaper...
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Just keep it as a snare. Having a coated head on the snare is side is, to the snares, vibrating in mud. It won't let the snares vibrate, it'll sound like a high pitched tom with snares flapping around

If that made any sense
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Just keep it as a snare. Having a coated head on the snare is side is, to the snares, vibrating in mud. It won't let the snares vibrate, it'll sound like a high pitched tom with snares flapping around

If that made any sense
Hmm..alright, fine. Another question: Would trying the Ambassador as a batter out be harmful to it, if I wanted to use it another time?
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Actually, I'm tempted to just try out the Ambassador as a batter head, to see how it sounds, who knows, I might like it? Either way, I'm eventually buying/getting a new snare drum, so we'll see. But heads are so cheap anyways, although they could be cheaper...
Speaking of cheap heads... Guitar Center was selling coated ambassadors for $7.99 a pop on the day after Thanksgiving (11/28), but was working so I couldn't make it to the store. (very disappointed about that!) But yeah, even though other companies like Evans and Aquarian make great products, Remo is still probably the most-used brand of drumhead in the world, and the coated ambassador is the standard by which all other heads are measured. If you haven't ever used one for a snare batter, I say give it a try!
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Speaking of cheap heads... Guitar Center was selling coated ambassadors for $7.99 a pop on the day after Thanksgiving (11/28), but was working so I couldn't make it to the store. (very disappointed about that!) But yeah, even though other companies like Evans and Aquarian make great products, Remo is still probably the most-used brand of drumhead in the world, and the coated ambassador is the standard by which all other heads are measured. If you haven't ever used one for a snare batter, I say give it a try!
I will try it, and it TOTALLY SUCKS how I didn't buy it at Guitar Center. Plus, I forgot my 15% off coupon when I bought my sticks at GC! Oh well, as long as I have it...
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TRy it. I doubt it will work for you. But you can keep it for your next drum clinic or concert and you can have someone sign it.
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2. Why do you doubt it will work for me? Supposedly, it's an extremely versatile head.
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1. Happy 1000th post.

2. Why do you doubt it will work for me? Supposedly, it's an extremely versatile head.
God dang! just try it man! And see how it works out. Now give me the pic of the bargain bin.
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Ambassadors really are the standard for snare batters. Reason being that you have a jazz head, a latin head, a rock head, a metal head [pun totally intended.], and a funk head all in one. Just tune er' up, and throw muffling on if necessary to your heart's content. While there have been MANY, MANY people disappointed in snare batters such as the Emperor X, Hi-Energy [sorry. :P] and even Pinstripe. However, I know not of a single person that has been let down by the Coated Ambassador.
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A coated Ambassador as a snare-side head? No way! I mean, you could try it, but it'll sound like s**t.
Why did you buy it in the first place? "On impulse." I guess it's wonderful that you have the money to throw around "on impulse" like that, but this isn't making any sense. You supported a local music shop, and...what the hell are you talking about, anyway?
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Yeah, I know, totally terrible of me, right? I should have thought about it, but I had recently read lots of good things about the Ambassadors, so I just bought one without thinking. Who knows, I might like it better than the hi-energy? And if not, I'll just keep it for later use, if the hi-energy isn't stretched.
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Lol, I can't believe how many people have suggested trying a coated ambassador for a snare head. It will sound like what Jay said it would. Snare heads and batter heads are labelled specifically ofr the job, so best not to waste a good batter head and keep it for when you need it.
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Why did you buy it in the first place? "On impulse." I guess it's wonderful that you have the money to throw around "on impulse" like that, but this isn't making any sense. You supported a local music shop, and...what the hell are you talking about, anyway?
Oh right, you're on vacation. Well, get back to us when you return, and don't forget to send a post card.
Thank you...

This guy's threads are getting more pointless everyday, I don't mean to be a jerk, but how about you go and play your drums instead of opening a thread everyday about whatever new head you got...
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Yeah, I know, totally terrible of me, right? I should have thought about it, but I had recently read lots of good things about the Ambassadors, so I just bought one without thinking. Who knows......
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Thank you...

This guy's threads are getting more pointless everyday, I don't mean to be a jerk, but how about you go and play your drums instead of opening a thread everyday about whatever new head you got...
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I just put a coated G2 on my Steambent Willie snare because I wanted a fat old school sound on this 7.5 inch snare. Tuned it loose and it sounds great. On the snare side? No Way!! Try a 2 mil or 3 mil on the snare side for sensitivity.
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- nothing personal, i just was also in a buying mood. Two different sticks probably, have to look out..

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I'd feel honored. Mind you, I've been insulted by some pretty classy people.
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