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Old 10-28-2008, 05:52 PM
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The Madman from Montebello strikes again! This is a continuation of this thread, started by Frank a couple of weeks ago.

I got them in last night, unpacked, and spent a lot of time tuning and re-tuning. To be entirely accurate, I spent the first hour just looking at them. I was so struck by how beautiful they were, I had to force myself to start setting them up instead of just turning them around with my hands and ogling over them. These drums could be hideous and the sound alone would justify them...but they're not, they're a work of art...much nicer than any other piece of furniture that I own.

The sizes (diameter x depth x thickness)

22"x18" (7/16") bass
16"x14" (3/8") floor tom
12"x9" (3/8") tom
10"x8" (3/8") tom
14"x6.5" (1/2") snare (not pictured)

Frank forgot to pack the legs to the kick drum and is shipping them out via expedited mail this morning, so I should have them in a few days. Meanwhile, I used two 5lb. dumbbells and a couple pieces of foam to hold the front up. Sexy, eh? :)

They feature Frank's own quick-release lugs - top-shelf quality and should make for very quick head changes. The heads on the toms are coated ambassadors over clears, the kick has a coated PS3 over a clear PS3 batter.

The matching snare is finished and should make its way to me sometime soon. I'll post pics once I have it.

I'm going to outfit it with die-cast hoops and the Tama Star-Cast (aluminum) mounting system for the smaller toms. For now I'm using the Pearl Optimount brackets I already had.

The sound:

If a set of high-end, boutique, maple plywood drums are a like a fine chocolate bar, these drums are a hand-whipped, hot fudge sundae covered with caramel, whipped cream, and a cherry on top (in a silver bowl). Was that helpful? Probably not. But seriously, the sound far exceeded my expectations.

I took quite a leap; maple ply shells to solid bubinga staves...so it's unclear to me after just a few hours with them, what characteristics are due to the wood type or the shell construction, specifically. The first thing I noticed is how crisp and clear the note is. When the head is struck there's an initial, super-fat, super-low, super-warm, super-LOUD tone that then resonates all the way up through the mids and tops off at a nice clear ring. It's everything you'd want from maple but much more...deeper and fatter on the low-end and more expressive and "musical" on the high-end. It struck me that all the high-end ply drums I've had are missing many of those tones. I've gotten quite used to my practice room acoustically, and for the first time I felt like the sound of my drums really *fills* the room. The kick drum is so fat and punchy, it gave me the feeling that the walls were actually moving! I dare not stand in front of it while someone else plays it...I'm not sure I'm done having children yet. The next thing that occurred to me is the wide tuning range these drums have. I can tune as high or as low as I want...it's really going to take a long time to figure out my ideal sound since the "sweet spot" is so much wider than other drums I've had. I couldn't get them to choke as I messed with them...I'm sure I'd have to crank it beyond a playable tension to spoil the sound.

That being said, I don't have them tuned all that well yet and will post some sounds once I think I've got them sounding more to their potential.

So, enough BS, here's some eye-candy!
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:04 PM
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tooooo sexxxy....

really. so great. so sexy. this is porn as it's meant to be. can you make high resolution pictures, then I can put it as a wallpaper on my desktop...
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:06 PM
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It's gorgeous! I don't know what else I can say. I can't wait to hear the sound clips.

And yes, your chocolate descriptions really help...
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Holy freakin' carp! What a beautiful catch! Can't wait for the sound clips...
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:23 PM
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Vinnie my friend,

You have no idea what you just did :)
You go check your PM.

That is the main advantage of stave, they have a huge tunning range, even more noticiable on a snare. Thank's a lot for those kind words.

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Old 10-28-2008, 06:34 PM
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WOW!!!!!, That is just..............Just.................I have no words, AWESOME!!!
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Druel, Druel some one please get me a bucket. Unix I think may be contributing to marital strife. :) Congrats Zambizzi. I can't wait to hear !
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The craftsmanship is UNBELIEVABLE.. Really nice kit.

I will own a Unix kit someday!
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:35 PM
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that tom looks lonely over there on the side, it wants to join the fun too. :) Where's that snare at!!!
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:57 PM
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Congrats Zambizzi on this new nice fine art buy et bravo à François pour son travail et le mérite qu'il reçoit.

Very nice piece of work !
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Wow.... absolutely stunning!
Thats a true beuty, you're a lucky man.
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:46 PM
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Thanks guys! And...thanks Frank! Feel free to use it as a testimonial, it's all true!

Yeah, the 10" is sitting on an old snare stand just because I had nowhere else to put it. I'm going to Guitar Center tonight to buy a clamp of some kind to mount the 10" on the other Optimount I have here, so I can get it snug next to the 12".

The snare is finished, I think...and should be here soon. I can't wait to rub my rudiments all over it...

Here's the setup I'm going to try tonight.
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Looks really great!

I was wondering what was up with the ten inch tom. Makes perfect sense now. I'm sure you're real excited and rightfully so.

Beautiful kit!
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I can't wait to rub my rudiments all over it...


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I assure you there were no implications beyond the literal meaning of that statement. :)
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That's downright sexy, no way around it.
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Looks really great!

I was wondering what was up with the ten inch tom. Makes perfect sense now. I'm sure you're real excited and rightfully so.

Beautiful kit!
Thanks Fred! I wanted to do something to remove the symmetry from my fills, this 10" is the perfect monkey wrench. Hopefully I can squeeze them in there together while still keeping my ride low and close.

I also might use the 16", 10" and 12" in a jungle setup w/ one of those Gretsch conversion kits.
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Wow, just mindblowing. This is the closest I have ever come to being jealous of someone else's set. I must brag to the forum members that Zambizzi has invited me over to actually PLAY these drums! (I live about a half-hour away).

Let me take them home with me just for one night, please? I'll buy you a pizza or anything.

The difference between ply and stave/solid shell is like the difference between cardboard and ply (there were actually some decent cardboard drums made during WWII called Vultex). Since there is no glue or cross-lamination, the authentic character of the wood shines through and all of the prized qualities of drums are magnified - tone, attack, sustain, richness, beauty etc. You are playing real wood drums, not a wood composite material.

You have now been officially spoiled and I am confident in saying you will keep this set for the rest of your life, even though you have only had it one day.
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Wow, just mindblowing. This is the closest I have ever come to being jealous of someone else's set. I must brag to the forum members that Zambizzi has invited me over to actually PLAY these drums! (I live about a half-hour away).

Let me take them home with me just for one night, please? I'll buy you a pizza or anything.

The difference between ply and stave/solid shell is like the difference between cardboard and ply (there were actually some decent cardboard drums made during WWII called Vultex). Since there is no glue or cross-lamination, the authentic character of the wood shines through and all of the prized qualities of drums are magnified - tone, attack, sustain, richness, beauty etc. You are playing real wood drums, not a wood composite material.

You have now been officially spoiled and I am confident in saying you will keep this set for the rest of your life, even though you have only had it one day.

GHEEZZZ am I jealous To have a two of the best looking and unique drums I have ever seen so close to each other !!!! Hmm I wonder if I convience my wife to take a vacation next year to Idaho.

It's a shame.. I just went to Canada this year before I even knew about Unix
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Wow, just mindblowing. This is the closest I have ever come to being jealous of someone else's set. I must brag to the forum members that Zambizzi has invited me over to actually PLAY these drums! (I live about a half-hour away).

Let me take them home with me just for one night, please? I'll buy you a pizza or anything.

The difference between ply and stave/solid shell is like the difference between cardboard and ply (there were actually some decent cardboard drums made during WWII called Vultex). Since there is no glue or cross-lamination, the authentic character of the wood shines through and all of the prized qualities of drums are magnified - tone, attack, sustain, richness, beauty etc. You are playing real wood drums, not a wood composite material.

You have now been officially spoiled and I am confident in saying you will keep this set for the rest of your life, even though you have only had it one day.
OK DMC we expect a full comparison report detailing the difference between solid and stave ironwood vs bubinga ... :)
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:56 PM
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Wow, just mindblowing. This is the closest I have ever come to being jealous of someone else's set. I must brag to the forum members that Zambizzi has invited me over to actually PLAY these drums! (I live about a half-hour away).

Let me take them home with me just for one night, please? I'll buy you a pizza or anything.

The difference between ply and stave/solid shell is like the difference between cardboard and ply (there were actually some decent cardboard drums made during WWII called Vultex). Since there is no glue or cross-lamination, the authentic character of the wood shines through and all of the prized qualities of drums are magnified - tone, attack, sustain, richness, beauty etc. You are playing real wood drums, not a wood composite material.

You have now been officially spoiled and I am confident in saying you will keep this set for the rest of your life, even though you have only had it one day.
Sorry brotha, not even a pizza can come between me and these drums! I'm excited to have you come and check them out though - hopefully I'll have the snare by then.

I don't doubt that I'll have these until I'm too weak to hold sticks anymore...they put all the mass-market (or custom plywood) kits I've played so far to shame.
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i must admit, they look beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 marvelous, really
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Sorry brotha, not even a pizza can come between me and these drums! I'm excited to have you come and check them out though - hopefully I'll have the snare by then.
Please take both kits outside, and make some kind of akward "twin" photoshoot. That would be great :-). Recording both sets in the same enviroment would be nice while you're at it, then we can all hear the difference between the two sets, both solid stave but different wood and stuff.

Have fun meeting and playing ;-).
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I can't get over how perfectly seamless the shells look! The level of craftsmanship here is on par with a grand piano. You described it like a superior sounding kit as well.

The best way to refer to the kit is...awesome!!!
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Simply beautiful!

Another great kit by UNIX
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uh....wow?

there really isnt a word to explain the feeling i got when i saw these...

you better get sound clips..or else =P

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Simply stunning. I have been made a believer in the stave concept a while back, but this is just remarkable. Congrats to you for owning the drums, congrats to Frank for another job well done, and congrats to the forum members for being able to share in this. I'm afraid all other kits have been humbled.
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Thanks again guys!

Here's "crazy-ass setup idea: take 1" (as illustrated earlier). I bought a Pearl AX38 clamp tonight and as you can see, I'm pushing the DW9900 tom stand to its limits. It's pretty stable but on these soft carpets, one good bump would send it overboard.
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Do you mind if I ask how much that set you back? I'm considering building myself another kit, but it might be more worth my while to get one of these! Beautiful kit. Amazing.
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why is your bass on womens barbells? do you not have legs?
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why is your bass on womens barbells? do you not have legs?
They're on the way, should be here any day now. Whoever packed the drums just forgot to put them in the bass drum box.

I like the women's barbell look...maybe I'm setting a new trend?
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Now those are some beauties...like many other posters, I am also left speechless. Just in the pictures, the detail to quality shines through, I can imagine what they look like in person.

Maybe I missed it in earlier disscussions, but could you breifly explain how the quick release lugs work.
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An absolutely wonderful kit. Great wood, great sizes. Post sound clips if you can :)
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Maybe I missed it in earlier disscussions, but could you breifly explain how the quick release lugs work.
Take a look at Ayotte's quick-release lugs, if you're not already familiar with them. I believe Frank was inspired by Ayotte for his lugs. The advantages I think these lugs have over theirs is; they're smaller. there's much less mass attached to the shell and only one hole drilled per-lug. They're minimalist and allow much more of the shell to be visible.

I don't know what type of metal they're made of but they're solid - I never did ask Frank on any details.

The idea is, you don't have to remove any tension rods or even loosen them very much to get them off to change heads. Give them a few cranks, lift, and they pull away from the lug.

Not only that, they just look cool. I've seen them on a couple of Frank's snares and they look way cool on there, too. My snare's gonna be purdy!
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Its a keeper, Vin.


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Take a look at Ayotte's quick-release lugs, if you're not already familiar with them. I believe Frank was inspired by Ayotte for his lugs. The advantages I think these lugs have over theirs is; they're smaller. there's much less mass attached to the shell and only one hole drilled per-lug. They're minimalist and allow much more of the shell to be visible.

I don't know what type of metal they're made of but they're solid - I never did ask Frank on any details.

The idea is, you don't have to remove any tension rods or even loosen them very much to get them off to change heads. Give them a few cranks, lift, and they pull away from the lug.

Not only that, they just look cool. I've seen them on a couple of Frank's snares and they look way cool on there, too. My snare's gonna be purdy!
They're certainly something else then those ugly DW lugs :-), I like them very much.
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Hummmmm.....

That tom stand looks like an robotic alien space monster.

You might have tried this, but I'd take the DW tom mount off the stand. Replace it with the Pearl double tom mount. You'd still be able to run the crash on that stand.

You'd need to find another way to run the splash. Maybe clamp it off the hi hat or pick up another stand for the crash and splash.

One of those pictures really shows off the color and grain of the wood. It looks fantastic.
Do you just sit there and stare at it sometimes? I know I would. :)

Man, that is really a spectacular kit.

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