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Old 10-24-2008, 04:00 AM
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Default Bouncing Beater

Just assembled a new Pearl Vision set, and the beater bounces on the stock Protone head. I have adjusted the head tension, adjusted the beater height, adjusted the spring tension, installed a falam slam pad, tried the felt side and plastic side, and it still bounces. This is extremely annoying! Am I missing something?
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: Bouncing Beater

im guessing your doing what we call "burying the beater" if you push the pedal down and dont let your foot off its gonna bounce, its a habit a lot of people try to get rid of. just step and release man.
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:19 AM
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im guessing your doing what we call "burying the beater" if you push the pedal down and dont let your foot off its gonna bounce, its a habit a lot of people try to get rid of. just step and release man.
I found that releasing was another step I didn't want to add to each stroke. There's plenty to do just playing normally.

I found that using a Cam style pedal vs a Round Sprocket style helped immensely. It allowed me to play exactly the same and STILL the beater came off the head by itself.

The different pedal geometries play very different and the Cam type might get the job done with little or NO effort from the player.

This might not work for everyone, but here's my explanation here:
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:29 AM
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hmm never thought of that, i was going with the technique over machinery to solve problems, but i guess that what advances are for. i might have to check out some pedals with diff cams see if i like any.cheers
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:33 AM
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hmm never thought of that, i was going with the technique over machinery to solve problems, but i guess that what advances are for. i might have to check out some pedals with diff cams see if i like any.cheers
The DW 9000 is fully adjustable. It will go from sprocket to cam and anywhere in between. I can't wait to afford one for myself!!
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:34 AM
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Releasing is the only thing I can do now to avoid it, but I have played several sets that didn't have this problem, and I agree that you shouldn't have to pick your foot back up.
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:13 AM
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I am one of those who bury the beater, and bouncing is a problem. You can loosen the batter head a bit, take the patch off(I did and it helped a bunch. The patch is harder than the head), or learn to play without burying the beater. Do it while you are young.
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:08 PM
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is your reso head ported? i played with a sealed head for about a year and found sealed to be much bouncier when i went back to ported.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:41 PM
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I am one of those who bury the beater, and bouncing is a problem. You can loosen the batter head a bit, take the patch off(I did and it helped a bunch. The patch is harder than the head), or learn to play without burying the beater. Do it while you are young.
Another of 'bury the beater' annoyous here! Should start a club but do want to port my reso but keeping the patch on the batter.
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