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Old 06-18-2010, 05:58 PM
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ooohhhhhhh, now that was 3-2 to the yanks, without a dougbt, but again that is what makes football, the highs and the lows in one game.
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What a comeback!!!! Got robbed for the 3rd goal, though!
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:52 PM
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I'm dead serious when I say I ran through the house when Michael Bradley scored. Why do they keep doing this? They come out totally confused on defense every game.
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What a comeback!!!! Got robbed for the 3rd goal, though!
Exactly. Soccer offsides sucks! Still, what an exciting second half.

USA USA USA!!!!!


And congrats to Greece for finally ending the goaless drought and losing streak. HELLAS!!!!!!

That was tough for Nigeria to lose a guy for the entire second half, but he did kick the Greek. That's a really long power play.
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I'm dead serious when I say I ran through the house when Michael Bradley scored. Why do they keep doing this? They come out totally confused on defense every game.


4 ish years ago, Greese v England, - World cup qulifier, England needed a goal to get into the world cup. If we won Germany wpould be knocked out of world cup.


93rd miniute, camara pans over to the germans in their dressing room, after their game, all smiles and laughter, thinking they have done the English.

Ref gives England a free kick.

Beckham walks up to the ball, shoots and scores, then ref blows for full time.

Camera pans back to germans, now crying in their dressing room.

England fans now going loopy on the terraces, me going absoluty bonkers in my front room.

Wife cutting clients hair, client looked so shocked and concerned, by my over the top celerbrations, that she never came back, wife very unhappy, because she has just lost a client, but me very happy as we were now in the world cup, and the germans were not.

The passion of football. Love it.

COME ON ENGLAND !!!
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Old 06-18-2010, 08:33 PM
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That's a really long power play.
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Old 06-18-2010, 08:35 PM
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Ok, help me out here soccer experts. How is this not offsides? There are no defenders anywhere near this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQDWs...eature=related

referring to the first goal by Mexico.
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You got me with that one! Abe. "The Clairvoyant footballer."....uuuhhhh, I love it!

I tell you mate, the big teams are playing well. The point is that "The little teams" are building up their courage, bravery, skills, passion and ownership of wearing their colours - Which the big boys were not expecting it.....This makes the whole World Cup more interesting to watch and enjoy.

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so disappointed in England's performance... it seems like they play with no motivation sometimes... This is the WORLD CUP...make it happen!
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Ok, I admit I don't like football, but out of patriotism, I watched the game. Until I fell asleep that is!
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Ok, I admit I don't like football, but out of patriotism, I watched the game. Until I fell asleep that is!
lolz. I've been on cakewalk for the past 2 hours but from what i've heard it's another crap performance from england, preventing them from winning the game. What a surprise.
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:52 PM
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Just been crying into my beer, and popcorn, and pizza slices, and deritos, and source,

What a big humungus pile of shite, its like joining a new band and you tell them that you are fantastic, and turning up and being a complete pile of shite.

We were so so bad.


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It can be three things that affected England:
1. No leadership from the coach - Fabio Capello.
2. Lack of commitment, lack of motivation from the players.
3. Players are more interesting to make money in the Premier League than playing for their own country.

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Old 06-19-2010, 12:40 AM
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It was boring, wasn't it Andy?

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Old 06-19-2010, 02:00 AM
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Serbia, congratulations! You have defeated Germany, that's an amazing achievement.
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Old 06-19-2010, 04:02 AM
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Serbia, congratulations! You have defeated Germany, that's an amazing achievement.
The Spanish referee defeated Germany more than Serbia did. I think there were 7 yellow cards in the first half - including the two that had the German sent off. Yet the game didn't look any more fierce than any other. The ref was letting tackles from behind go without yellow cards in the 2nd half.

Yet no one was booked for diving, even though there were many spectacular leaps, followed by grimaces, followed by immediate recovery and dynamic running. It reminds me of children faking tears to get another child in trouble but if no one pays attention the tears dry up immediately.

There seems to be a pattern ... send off a team's best player in the first half and then be more lenient in the 2nd half. Then, if asked, the ref can say he was trying to stamp his authority on the game rather than fixing the result, which I think is what's going on.

As for England, everyone knows that Poms get over-anxious and choke in the big moments. They do it in all sports, not just football. It's a standard joke around the world.

On the occasions when Poms actually do win (over a nation that's not the Cayman Islands or Tierra del Fuego) it sparks a type of delirium born of disbelief that someone actually didn't choke at the critical moment, something to which English sports fans have become accustomed.
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:57 AM
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It can be three things that affected England:
1. No leadership from the coach - Fabio Capello.
2. Lack of commitment, lack of motivation from the players.
3. Players are more interesting to make money in the Premier League than playing for their own country.
its seems like a lack of commitment or something, it really is depressing because if England play like they should and CAN.. they could take the title.... not so sure about the money thing... they are all already very very wealthy people.
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It was boring, wasn't it Andy?
Oh yes. I'm no football fan, but you sort of get drawn into the whole patriotism vibe. I thought the world cup would be the flagship of the sport. Maybe even something designed to draw the disinterested to the sport. Not on this performance though. It's rather like being invited to a festival of percussion, but when you get there, there's one guy on stage with a tambourine & bells between his knees.
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:17 AM
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Oh yes. I'm no football fan, but you sort of get drawn into the whole patriotism vibe. I thought the world cup would be the flagship of the sport. Maybe even something designed to draw the disinterested to the sport. Not on this performance though. It's rather like being invited to a festival of percussion, but when you get there, there's one guy on stage with a tambourine & bells between his knees.
I think the worldcup is bad time for people new to soccer to start to watch the game bc a lot of the time, as evidence in this worldcup, teams don't score a lot. Most due to the enormous importance of each game.
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As for England, everyone knows that Poms get over-anxious and choke in the big moments. They do it in all sports, not just football. It's a standard joke around the world.

On the occasions when Poms actually do win (over a nation that's not the Cayman Islands or Tierra del Fuego) it sparks a type of delirium born of disbelief that someone actually didn't choke at the critical moment, something to which English sports fans have become accustomed.
I think to be fair though, you said it yourself, just because you're crap @ something if you enjoy it then might as well do it eh?
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:21 PM
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Also what you have remember, is that round the world, goverments, fund sporting colleges or the likes for their sports, they achtivly encourage younsters to take up sports and then pay for it. Which is why the french and yanks can have good tennis players, or the Aussies, have a good cricket or rugby team.

But here in England, the goverment pay for scrbbly shit, when it comes to sports, it is done of each young kids and parents / clubs back, in other words it is done with sheer passion, so thats why we are crap, at sports, but who cares, when we take up any sport here in England, it is done of our own backs, with a dream at the end of it.

But when you get rooney slaging of the fans, because the fans were booing the team, because they were crap, then that gets my goat up,

A man on the radio, phoned in today, and said i have every right to BOO rooney, "it takes me 2 years to earn what rooney earns in a week, and i have taken a week of work to watch the England team play like shite. I have every right"

Bloody right mate, the USA played with passion, Algeria played with passion, the English, played like spoilt brats.

UUUURRRRHHHHHHHHH, that is why i hate top flight football, and surpport the leagues below the pemiership..

All the millions of pounds each England team members earns each year, and no disrespect to Algeria, but a semi proffesional team can hold them to a 0-0 draw.


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Holland: 1 / 0: Japan. Holland, 1st one to secure pass onto eighth finals.

Ghana:1 / 1: Australia. What a draw, Aussies put up a good match with only 10 honourable men.

Cameroon: 1 / 2: Denmark. Cameroon 1st one eliminated, the lions tried and tried but luck failed for them as well.
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Next games:

Eslovaquia vs Paraguay

Italy vs New Zeland - Bernhard will be at home watching the game, against the Aussies neighbours (the Kiwis).

Brasil vs Ivory Coast (Cote D'Ivoire)
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Can't be said enough. Apparently it wasn't offsides like I thought he called. I still don't know what the call was.

Have the world cup organizers not heard of instant replay?
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I hope Drogba's back for the Ivory Coast vs Brazil game because It'll make it a lot or interesting if he's on the pitch even if he has a broken arm.
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Can't be said enough. Apparently it wasn't offsides like I thought he called. I still don't know what the call was.

Have the world cup organizers not heard of instant replay?
The whole instant replay debate is a heated one when it comes to football. In American sports they rely on it heavily but it adds a lot of lag time to the play.

There was a discussion between the commentators on ESPN the other day over this whole ordeal, and they brought up the instant replay issue. Interestingly enough, Alexi Lalas (retired American footballer) and Steve Mcmanaman (retired English footballer) both agreed that they wouldn't want a replay system implemented into the game. They agreed that the judgment (albeit horrible at times) of the refs is what helps make football a unique and beautiful sport. They did however agree that the ref made a horribly inaccurate call and shouldn't be allowed to ref any more.
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I think to be fair though, you said it yourself, just because you're crap @ something if you enjoy it then might as well do it eh?
Agree totally, Eddie :) I feel special affection for those who are both seriously crap and seriously passionate about what they do (Ed Wood's movie-making). However, the England football team strikes me as being seriously good but their fear appears to be greater than their passion.

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I didn't see a free kick in that third goal either. From what I could tell most of the pushing and shoving and shirt-tugging seemed to be coming from Slovenia rather than the US. Having said that, Oz has had its best player sent off early in each of its games for fouls that didn't deserve a red card. If not for that we would have let in fewer goals against Germany, beaten Ghana and be in a good position to reach the final 16. Now we have very little chance.

The reffing at the WC has been inconsistent and generally terrible ... I think this bears another viewing ...

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kaka being sent off....add to the list of horrible oversights by the refs this world cup... what a crock.
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Having said that, Oz has had its best player sent off early in each of its games for fouls that didn't deserve a red card. If not for that we would have let in fewer goals against Germany, beaten Ghana and be in a good position to reach the final 16. Now we have very little chance.
Sad indeed Pol......I'm thinking I might have to jump on the Kiwi's. We share ANZAC day with them, we share the south Pacific, there's more of them here than at home....why not share in their World Cup glory as well?

All we need is a black "jersey" with a silver fern, rearrange our vowels a tad and we can pass ourselves off as our neighbours from across the dutch [sic]!!
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kaka being sent off....add to the list of horrible oversights by the refs this world cup... what a crock.
It wouldn't be a World Cup without the dodgy decisions. It was a quality bit of simulation by the Ivorian though...
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It wouldn't be a World Cup without the dodgy decisions. It was a quality bit of simulation by the Ivorian though...
Yeah, he didn't get his dive right.. he ran into Kaka with his chest and falls down grabbing his face lol.... no Oscar there.
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Yeah, he didn't get his dive right.. he ran into Kaka with his chest and falls down grabbing his face lol.... no Oscar there.
In cases like this where the simulation is clear, the offending player should be immediately suspended for a few matches based on video evidence. That way, the game isn't slowed up and there's a disincentive to cheat.
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In cases like this where the simulation is clear, the offending player should be immediately suspended for a few matches based on video evidence. That way, the game isn't slowed up and there's a disincentive to cheat.
makes sense, but I doubt it will ever be implemented.
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makes sense, but I doubt it will ever be implemented.
Yeah, the administrators strike me as hard case Luddites. Simulation is bringing the sport down. It would be heaps more popular in Oz if the players didn't carry on like a bunch of manipulative little wussy boys who go crying to mummy ... when she's looking. I find it nauseating.

The real football is one of the few sports I enjoy watching but this growing cancer of simulation is starting to turn me off it.
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First Australian game was a bit embarrasing :p I stayed up to watch the Australia v Ghana match, and I'm not really a soccer (sorry, just used to saying it) fan, but I enjoyed it. Got pretty annoyed when we got that red card though. I heard from people who know much more about the game that it should've been a red card, so I think it's just a bad rule. Also stayed up to watch some of the NZ v Italy game, definitely behind NZ after the last World Cup.
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First Australian game was a bit embarrasing :p I stayed up to watch the Australia v Ghana match, and I'm not really a soccer (sorry, just used to saying it) fan, but I enjoyed it. Got pretty annoyed when we got that red card though. I heard from people who know much more about the game that it should've been a red card, so I think it's just a bad rule.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me either. If you're standing there and trying to cover a gap during the heat of battle what's he supposed to do? He had his eyes shut when the ball hit so how could it be deliberate? How can he, in the heat of battle - having just stopped running into position - place his arms neatly by his side just in case the ball hits his arm? If the shot didn't work out he might have needed to run and if his arms are tight to his body like he's standing to attention he won't be as mobile.

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Referees performance, it's very questionable in this World Cup. It seems that they tend to favour some "big money interests", instead of keeping the sport spirit and fair play.
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