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Old 06-25-2010, 05:43 PM
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Boy, is Brazil and Portugal DULL!!! bunch of wusses...too much of the grab-leg-roll-over-and whimper-in-pain going on..sheesh!
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What a boring game was, it looked like an arrangement (draw) between both Portuguese speaking countries. Nobody will remember that match!

I'm with you Abe - what a pack a pussies.

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Old 06-25-2010, 07:20 PM
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:23 PM
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:28 PM
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The Ivorians / Ivoirienne, left the WC with "honour" beating 3 - 0 North Korea.
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:37 PM
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But remember that - thanks to the USA and the rest of the Allied, France and England still speaking their own mother tongues, otherwise would it be Deutsch...... ;-]

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i think you're possibly thinking of World War 2 there mate?

Anyway i have no idea who i should support on sunday but i'm going to wear my Germany shirt whether i want them to win or not just to get on people's nerves :p
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:18 PM
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That can apply to world war 1 and 2 mate.

The germans wanted to invade England, and needed air supoiroity, that is what the battle of Britain was all about, they could not defeat us in the skys, so that scuppered their invasion plans, they went back to the drawing board.

It took the mighty Roman empire 60 years and 3 atempts to invade Britian, at that stage the Britians were just a band of celtis tribes.
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i think you're possibly thinking of World War 2 there mate?

Anyway i have no idea who i should support on sunday but i'm going to wear my Germany shirt whether i want them to win or not just to get on people's nerves :p
Be careful where you go with that shirt on lol :P
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That can apply to world war 1 and 2 mate.
If you say so. I just wasn't sure whether the whole Germans trying to take over the world, forcing everyone to speak German that sort of thing was going on in world war 1 that was all?
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Boy, is Brazil and Portugal DULL!!! bunch of wusses...too much of the grab-leg-roll-over-and whimper-in-pain going on..sheesh!
Wasn't that because they were both already through so why risk anything? The last ten minutes they weren't even really playing.

And this is the first time ever 5 South American countries made it through. With Mexico and USA that's 7 teams from the Americas.

Go USA!

And Deutschland should beat those English. They have better beer and cars!
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Old 06-26-2010, 01:24 AM
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Unbelievable! The referee liner count 3 off sides against Ivory Coast, eliminating 3 goals from the Ivorians.....and in favour of Portugal to move on to 8th-final.....what a shame!

I have sympathy for Ivory Coast (Cote D' Ivoire).
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Old 06-26-2010, 01:39 AM
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Yes indeed, mate. You know, even Mr.Winston Churchill recognized that they were fighting a damn good German General - Erwin Rommel (The dessert fox) in charge of the Afrika Korps and who led the Blitzkrieg operation to invade France......Germany lost the war but never its prestige of good soldiers as per history said.

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Anyway i have no idea who i should support on sunday but i'm going to wear my Germany shirt whether i want them to win or not just to get on people's nerves :p
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Yes indeed, mate. You know, even Mr.Winston Churchill recognized that they were fighting a damn good German General - Erwin Rommel (The dessert fox) in charge of the Afrika Korps and who led the Blitzkrieg operation to invade France......Germany lost the war but never its prestige of good soldiers as per history said.
What are you getting at? This is a rather dubious thing to say Ian.
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Boy, is Brazil and Portugal DULL!!! bunch of wusses...too much of the grab-leg-roll-over-and whimper-in-pain going on..sheesh!
A huge disappointment. The clincher for me was when the guy was rolling in agony with a leg cramp. Imagine if I was at work in the office with a leg cramp and started rolling, eyes screwed shut in pain on the floor while clutching my calf. Unthinkable. Anyone in a work situation with a cramp would just grimace, groan and try to stretch it out - not roll around like a loony.

These are supposed to be big, strong men - elite athletes. The problem IMO is that referees have too often rewarded diving and faking which has resulted in players being infantilised ... Mummy Mummy! Johnny hit me! Pathetic and demeaning. As a woman, I hate seeing hot men carrying on like babies.

The only way to eliminate this cancer from the game is to instantly dismiss any player who dives and then suspend them for a few games. Then players will work hard to keep their feet and avoid ankle hacks.

If players are trying hard to retain their balance then if they are cynically hacked or lose their footing it should be pretty obvious.

PS. Jones, I think what Ian's saying is the Germans have a rep for being disciplined and staunch.
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:54 AM
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Jones, I was just saying to Eddie - the Germans are extremely disciplined from long time ago since WWI & WWII. That was all about. Pardon me, I know it's out of the context.

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Old 06-26-2010, 05:09 AM
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Polly, You are a tough sweet woman and I like it. When you see men running like cry babies, whinging, nagging the referee and cracking at first - it's a shame. They should keep the strength.

Regarding the Germans, you've hit the nail with your comment to our friend Jones....Thanks.

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Old 06-26-2010, 11:47 AM
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Jones, I was just saying to Eddie - the Germans are extremely disciplined from long time ago since WWI & WWII. That was all about. Pardon me, I know it's out of the context.

Coolio, just never like to see Nazis complimented (although Rommel was clearly one of the better ones)!
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Any predictions for the U.S versus Ghana game? Being an American and extremely optimistic, I'm saying U.S 2, Ghana 1. Maybe all our goals will count this time... Oh yeah, and Germany is winning 3-1 against England.
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Yes Rommerll was one of the better ones, as he did try to blow up Hitler.

This is a good thread, its about football, war, and Irish politices.

Yes the german army was disaplined, but then again so was the English army, when you was 16 and in the trenchs about to go over to almost certian death, knowing what was going to happen to you, then that is real disapline.

The English in the past has been to war with france, spain, portugal, germany, holland, italy, austria, and thats just in Europe, as millwall say, no one likes us but we dont care, i think. oh yes and we once ruled 60% of the world, this little Island nation of ours, now that also takes disapline to achive all that.


Now that should get some replyies, i fink..

Jazz and ska, the game aint started yet. not till tomorrow, love ska music, had alot of it in this counrty during the 80'S,

And if the germans win, its proberlly becoause they cheated or some fing.
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Coolio, just never like to see Nazis complimented (although Rommel was clearly one of the better ones)!
In Rommel's favour, Hitler once called him a pig. Not making that up either, he went out hunting one day for wild bore and Hitler said "funny how the pigs like to eat their own" lolz. At least i think it was Rommel. Well it was one of his Nazi subordinates anyway.
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Oi yanks.

Its all gone quite over there.
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Shame USA lost today, but they did well to stay in this tournament for as long as they have. Hopefully USA can regroup over the next 4 years, learn from this WC, and come back even stronger. I think a huge issue is how they play in the opening minuets of games... they tend to concede those early goals which makes the rest of the game a frenzy of playing catch-up.

overall USA has nothing at all to be ashamed of. Well played.
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With the size of this country the talent pool should be a lot bigger. Regardless of how long the U.S. has been in the International arena, they should be more advanced. I was playing soccer in this country in 1962-63. That is long enough to develop a better team than that. If our talent was top notch then our coaching must be lacking. Ghana has 24 million people and can field a better team, or better coached team than the U.S.'s 300 million people. Bunk. I am ashamed of their play, their philosophy and the result. They need a good swift kick in the arse and gain a little pride.
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Shame USA lost today, but they did well to stay in this tournament for as long as they have. Hopefully USA can regroup over the next 4 years, learn from this WC, and come back even stronger. I think a huge issue is how they play in the opening minuets of games... they tend to concede those early goals which makes the rest of the game a frenzy of playing catch-up.

overall USA has nothing at all to be ashamed of. Well played.
Yeah, it's a bummer, but those early goals on us in every game were a killer.

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With the size of this country the talent pool should be a lot bigger. Regardless of how long the U.S. has been in the International arena, they should be more advanced. I was playing soccer in this country in 1962-63. That is long enough to develop a better team than that. If our talent was top notch then our coaching must be lacking. Ghana has 24 million people and can field a better team, or better coached team than the U.S.'s 300 million people. Bunk. I am ashamed of their play, their philosophy and the result. They need a good swift kick in the arse and gain a little pride.
Isn't the difference that all 24 million people of Ghana probably eat, sleep and breathe soccer, where even though there's a lot more people in the US, not that many play at a high level? At least we know they're one of the 16 best teams in the world right now.

I was watching with a freind from Europe today and he was criticizing the strategic approach by the US as well. I think they played well after the first goal by Ghana. The OT was like the rest of their games. Let in a goal early and try to catch up.

What a bummer day. USA and Fedor lose!

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WWII happened 65 years ago. I think we can safely let it go now, especially since the vast majority of Germans abhor the collective insanity that overran the nation at the time. The fact is that they are a disciplined people ... even their trains run on time (unlike in Oz).

Surprised the Ghana beat the US. Oz would have beaten Ghana had the ref not sent our star player off early in the game - we were all over them with just 10 players! Yet I would not have been confident about a meeting with the US. The US's goalie is great, as is that Donovan guy. I'm guessing they had an off day at the wrong time.

GD, the US have the same problem as Oz - rival football codes. You have gridiron and we have Australian rules football, rugby league and rugby union. Those codes take the athletes that could have excelled in soccer. Our tall guys keep going to Australian rules and our big guys go to rugby ... it's a huge drawback.

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And doesn't he look old these days?

Great football! Poor old England - how did that goal not get given?

Update: Glad Germany got the extra goals. At least the ripoff in the first half didn't affect the result.
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Although I risk extreme flaming by the English forum members, there is a positive side to England leaving the world cup, there'll be bigger audiences at our gigs over the next two weeks!

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That was a horrible performance by England, but that second goal robbery was ridiculous. England didn't play well enough to win it in the second half even if they had of gotten that 2nd goal, but it could have drastically affected the players mind-set and who knows.....???

on a bigger note, when will FIFA get off their ass and do something about these insanely stupid goal discrepancy. At this level of play we shouldn't be relying on a few linesmen and their interpretations. Just review a camera shot for like 5 seconds and find out the truth. Germany out played England today. I guess England needs a damn German coach?!
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same here. Hopefully that'll prevent there being too much "oh what if the ref had seen the goal?" yeah whatever, Germany were the better team today. Face it.
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same here. Hopefully that'll prevent there being too much "oh what if the ref had seen the goal?" yeah whatever, Germany were the better team today. Face it.
Sure, but you have to admit there should be no confusion on the issue that FIFA and football in general has to SOMETHING about the replay issue...its bloody criminal.
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Sure, but you have to admit there should be no confusion on the issue that FIFA and football in general has to SOMETHING about the replay issue...its bloody criminal.
Yes i was going to say i agree entirely that there needs to be some sort of video referee as well as the real one like in tennis.
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Feel bad for England. 2/2 at haftime would have resulted in different 2nd half strategies. Really unfortunate, but Germany is playing a tournament winning game.
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This whole world cup as been riddled with horrible referring when it comes to what is an actual goal. I guess its no different than any other WC for that matter lmao...

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Feel bad for England. 2/2 at haftime would have resulted in different 2nd half strategies. Really unfortunate, but Germany is playing a tournament winning game.
It's a shame, but I think Germany would have come out pressing as they did the first half, while England milled about waiting for something to happen rather than making something happen.
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But wait, I thought that was the beauty of soccer! Just use the dang replay and get it right.

Time for a hefeweizen now. Good job Germany.
If you're making a reference to my post a few pages back, I was merely chiming in on what the post game commentators said about the USA game and their views (particularly Alexi Lalas) on the lack of video replay.

I personally, think there should be some type of video replay. I just don't want it to slow the game down too much, but it shouldn't if done in moderation, especially on potential goal situations.
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If there weren't so few goals in soccer then it wouldn't matter as much. They should really have replay.

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Sure, but you have to admit there should be no confusion on the issue that FIFA and football in general has to SOMETHING about the replay issue...its bloody criminal.
After some poor decisions that helped derail Oz's campaign, in both last WC and this one, I thought it was stupid that such a huge sport not use the technology available. I was keen to see these travesties of justice prevented. After seeing the English goal disallowed, the idea of replays seemed like a no-brainer.

But last night I had a lighbulb moment. Human error. Players, refs, everyone is subject to it. Human inconsistency is something I love in music - much more than boring, perfect drum machines blah. What is the result of those human errors in a game? Anger, passion, controversy ... cool! :) If the machine had sorted it out, the correct decision would be made and everyone would settle down. Booooring!

I have a great idea! Let's replace human drummers with machines! Human drummers are hopeless because they keep making mistakes. We have the technology to get rhythms 100% right so why not use it? Right??

These days we're so obsessed with getting everything shmick that we've lost interest in our flawed, organic souls ... whatever happened to "warts and all"? Screw it, let the arguments rage and fans go crazy. If you're worried then maybe add some goal-line refs to picks up stuff that happens in the box. Don't give more human jobs to bloody machines.

In the end, Oz was bundled out and we deserved it - though we grizzled a lot :) We were never going to be scary in the top 16. Now England has been beaten by a team that ouplayed them. No problem. Most of the best teams are through to the next round.

No problem.
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