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Old 07-12-2005, 10:59 PM
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So here's my setup! I have it configured so that I can swivel around to play either my dws or the v drums. My symmetrical setup for both kits also lets me play completely ambidextrously and everything and its so much fun to play. Maybe later I'll put up sound clips of me playing so you can get an idea of the things possible with this configuration.






DW exotic in Emerald Burst over Birdseye Maple

toms ... 10"x8", 12"x10", 14"x12", 16"x14"
bass is 22"x20" i think

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5.5"x14" prototype Tama Mike Portnoy Signature

... secondary snare ...
5.5"x10" Tama Bill Bruford signature snare

Paiste -New Signature- cymbals

20" Dark Energy ride Mark I

Dark Energy Crashes 15, 16, 17 and 18"

and a 22" Traditional Medium-Light Swish

two 8" maginificant Stagg splashes


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Pearl Horacio Hernandez signature cowbell
toca tambourine

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All DW 9000 hardware (including 8 foot remote cable pedal)
except for Off Set double bass pedal

I'm now using Tama ICs again, and there's a DW universal remote hat stand on the way.



Right now I'm using Vater 8A sticks.


















so here's what my kit has looking like lately;

Just kidding, uploads on the sixth page.


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Old 07-12-2005, 11:05 PM
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awesome and unique. are you a bill bruford fan by any chance? he also likes a kit set up flat and symetric like that. great colour too and your room looks way cool and tasteful; a good surrounding like that can be inspirational.
huge paiste ride. you are my kind of drummer already. name your cymbals dude, and yes, post some playing if you can.


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Old 07-12-2005, 11:18 PM
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I really like the green finish on your DW's. You can’t go wrong with that color choice. That is defiantly a unique setup indeed. Awesome!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:22 PM
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nice sets man! love taht finish on the dw. like how you got the floor tom set up right in front of the bass, but doesnt it get in the way of your knee? what kind of snare is that with the acoustic kit? black panther? ive been thinking about buying one myself. an ya, put up some sound files of you playing.
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:00 AM
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I had no idea you got green man, I cream in honor of your new kit. Congratulations.
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:10 AM
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I see you have a dark energy Paiste ride, how do you like it?
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:12 AM
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Awsome kits, must of set you back a pretty penny overall.
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:35 AM
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wow, dw make some amazing stuff. just wondering, why are your rack toms going bigger smaller instead of the opposite way?
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:48 AM
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Yes I am actually a huge fan of bill bruford. The shirt I have on in those pics is from the Yes album Fragile, which he is on! I got the idea from seeing bruford's setup, but I put the toms closer together in order to reach with either hand very quickly and easily.

On my v drums the drums from left to right around the snare drum are
3rd tom, 1st tom, hi hat, 4th tom, and 2nd tom. I can get some amazing sounding fills while flowing very smoothly around this setup.

Due to the size of the 4th tom of my DW kit, however, it doesn't fit where i want it with the bass drum there as well. This week I'm ordering an off-set double bass pedal to try it out because that would allow me to put the toms where I need them.

For cymbals I have a 20" Dark Energy Ride Mark I
16" and 17" Dark Energy Crashes
and 2 Stagg splash cymbals

The snare isn't a black panther though. It was a prototype Mike Portnoy Signature Snare, so it's one of a kind and sounds amazing.

And I also fixed up that side of the studio with ALL of my hand drums and drum machines
I'll put some more pics up later and sound clips maybe too
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:52 AM
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that is amazing. What finish is on the Dw? Im in awe of your kit, its so nice. I would love to hear it if you post some clips.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:35 AM
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AWESOME:

I'm digging that. Have you taken that on any gigs? What are the crowd reactions to it?
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:41 AM
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I actually only got my dw kit a few days ago, so it hasn't gone on any gigs yet. It'll be awesome though, I'm sure it looks like a nice encasement of drums around me to the crowd
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:50 AM
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Beautiful drums! Love the "level" idea. Definitely post sound clips. I like your unique set-up!
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:21 AM
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Wow.

How did you get those gorgeous DWs and Paistes?
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Old 07-16-2005, 05:17 PM
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bump. lol
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:19 PM
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Glad they suite you. I could never playanything like that!
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:39 AM
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Wow that's really a unique set up. It looks like it would be hard to play. If it works for you that's cool and really all that matters. That is a nice finish and your studio looks cool also.
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Old 07-17-2005, 10:10 AM
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aah.. i love the finish.. and i like your flattom action... aahznightsky : lucky.. :D ;)
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:11 PM
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nice man kinda Neil Peart meets Mike Mangini set up. anything to keep evolving the instrument. I would love to hear you play.
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:50 PM
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hey dude ive never seen that dw finish what is it??
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Old 07-18-2005, 05:22 PM
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i just had another look at your kit (4th pic) and i can just imagine the kind of 16th note patterns you can get between ride crash and snare. wow. totally free. 'sunday bloody sunday' must be easy to play on that kit for example. j
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Old 07-23-2005, 08:24 PM
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i just had another look at your kit (4th pic) and i can just imagine the kind of 16th note patterns you can get between ride crash and snare. wow. totally free. 'sunday bloody sunday' must be easy to play on that kit for example. j
You said it lol. The close proximity of all the pieces of the kits feel so nice too, its like everything is just laid out in front of you for easy reach, without feeling cramped.

And some more recent additions include a tama bill bruford signature auxillary snare among other cymbals and drums for a giant array of world percussion big and small. Maybe later I'll put a new post of the fun haha
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Old 07-23-2005, 10:48 PM
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You said it lol. The close proximity of all the pieces of the kits feel so nice too, its like everything is just laid out in front of you for easy reach, without feeling cramped.

And some more recent additions include a tama bill bruford signature auxillary snare among other cymbals and drums for a giant array of world percussion big and small. Maybe later I'll put a new post of the fun haha
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:05 PM
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nice just nice . but i dont like electric crap drum things i hate them . but your classic set :D *BLING* !
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:15 PM
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Amazing kits. I love your set up on your green kit. It is such a cool color too.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:26 PM
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... but i dont like electric crap drum things i hate them .
I hate most electronic drums too. But if you actually play THIS set or any other roland set from their TOP line, they're no where near crappy. In fact better than most middle - end acoustic kits I've played!
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:49 AM
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I can't figure out how you play the bass drum pedal with that tom in the way.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:37 AM
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the tom wasnt in the way then and its way better now. Lemme show ya...



I have a good few inches really so its awesome~!
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:43 AM
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oh yeah and the toms have been switched on my right side so that's the BIG tom and i still have plenty of room. New pedal of course got the bass drum out of the way to give the tom more room too. And it feels great
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Old 07-26-2005, 05:23 AM
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That's pretty cool those center double beaters like that. It allows you to pushe the bass drum much further to the front and away from you body! I always wondered what it would be like to have a remote pedal that plays a bass drum way of to the side (ala Weckls' secondary kick), so that you could have nothing but cymbals and toms laid out before you, without any regard for positioning due to the bass drum.
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Old 07-27-2005, 08:09 AM
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That's pretty cool those center double beaters like that. It allows you to pushe the bass drum much further to the front and away from you body! I always wondered what it would be like to have a remote pedal that plays a bass drum way of to the side (ala Weckls' secondary kick), so that you could have nothing but cymbals and toms laid out before you, without any regard for positioning due to the bass drum.
Weckl's kick? hehe what about Terry Bozzio? He has nothing but dozens and dozens of toms and cymbals around him, hehe its great!
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:58 AM
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Looks like your kit has some extreme flexibility! I'd love to give it a go. It seems like you're getting gear frequently— how do you afford all that?
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Nice Shirt...Yes is my favorite band,the finish on that DW is amazing!
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Old 08-01-2005, 06:52 AM
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Nice Shirt...Yes is my favorite band,the finish on that DW is amazing!
yup Yes is my favorite as well ... it's so much fun playing along with the albums on this kit too. and I live pretty close to philly as well! When you first start playing a set up like this, it takes some getting used to, but then some really great ideas for fills and grooves and solos start coming that are like nothing else I've heard. It was also great exercise for my brain too, having to figure out how to play along with albums with new stickings to accomodate the setup. Second nature now, so now I'm always just experimenting alot with fills linear grooves and all sorts of things that sound wicked around the kit. Plus, the standard fill down the toms 1 2 3 4 is sooo cliche! :-P
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Hey aahznightsky,

Great Kit that you have there!
Would you tell me some details about your experiences with the dw cable HiHat?
Indeed I'm planning a setup close to yours (I really was quite surprised seeing sombody else with that kinda Bruford setup ;) )

The centered HiHat is a must! But which model would you prefer?
There is the 9502LB (cable)
and the 9550 Universal Remote HiHat (cardanic)

Unfortunately I never had the chance to test any of these ones. In Germany it's quite impossible to find a dealer who has these expensive toys ready for testing. All I heard is: Cable is booo! Cable is not sensitive to play! Cable is cable - dw ain't better than any others! I kinda refuse believing that...

By the way: Few weeks ago I saw Bill Bruford's Earthworks live in a small german province jazz club. It was the greatest concert experience I've ever had! And It's of course not only about Bill Bruford. Tim Garland impressed me as deeply as the young pianist the played with. Great great great. It's yet another universe above Random Acts Of Happiness...
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Hey aahznightsky,

Great Kit that you have there!
Would you tell me some details about your experiences with the dw cable HiHat?
Indeed I'm planning a setup close to yours (I really was quite surprised seeing sombody else with that kinda Bruford setup ;) )

The centered HiHat is a must! But which model would you prefer?
There is the 9502LB (cable)
and the 9550 Universal Remote HiHat (cardanic)
actually just TODAY i traded in the 5000 series pedal for the 9000 (which is the 9502LB). The 5000 was o.k. but the 9000 feels like the real thing! I would definitely suggest the cable rather than the universal too...leaves more room open for whatever you wish (i got a double bass pedal for instance). and you HAVE to post some pics when you get your kit i would love to see it!
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Great kit man, I love the finish on it. Your electric is pretty neat too, and even though I don't go for them much, I'm liking this one. Good to see another drummer spend the extra money on some good old Paiste's ;). Keep it up!
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actually just TODAY i traded in the 5000 series pedal for the 9000 (which is the 9502LB). The 5000 was o.k. but the 9000 feels like the real thing! I would definitely suggest the cable rather than the universal too...leaves more room open for whatever you wish (i got a double bass pedal for instance). and you HAVE to post some pics when you get your kit i would love to see it!
Hmm very interesting indeed. So you think that there is no "wibble-wobble" lagging feeling while playing that HiHat? I was able to test an old Mapex one and it was awful to play because of that delay between hitting the pedal and the resulting chick-sound. The wire seemed quite elastic to me. No chance for precise playing. Now tell me what cable length do you play and is a shorter cable better for a more direct feeling? Or should I get a long one to realize a smoothly curved cable for less friction?

You see I'm so unsure :o. Nobody yet told me somthing different than cable is bad to play. Convince me of the oppisite...

And yes of course I'm going to post some pictures of my setup but It'll take a few weeks cause things have to be imported...

But not that you think I'm getting a kit expensive like yours :-) Actually my one is a 3000 series Sonor Force in honey maple...
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:29 PM
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Hmm very interesting indeed. So you think that there is no "wibble-wobble" lagging feeling while playing that HiHat? I was able to test an old Mapex one and it was awful to play because of that delay between hitting the pedal and the resulting chick-sound. The wire seemed quite elastic to me. No chance for precise playing. Now tell me what cable length do you play and is a shorter cable better for a more direct feeling? Or should I get a long one to realize a smoothly curved cable for less friction?

You see I'm so unsure :o. Nobody yet told me somthing different than cable is bad to play. Convince me of the oppisite...
I have never tried any cable length other than 8 ft. which is what i have, and there's no lag.
I would go ahead with the 8 ft. length, again for help getting around all the pieces of your kit, especially whehn you have such a different set up ( if i got a shorter cable it would get in the way of things (not just double bass, but the bottom rims of toms and such as well).
If you can't try one before hand to see for yourself, just trust me ... there's absolutely no lag!

You tested and old mapex one; of course you didn't like it! Hehe...

But tell me, what cymbals are you planning on getting? And also, will you be set up more balanced, symetrical and easy to reach like me, or spread out with the ride to one side like bruford? You should experiment with both but i think you'll enjoy mine better hehe...

edit: oh by the way I found out yesterday that the finish is Emerald Burst over Birdseye Maple ...

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You tested and old mapex one; of course you didn't like it! Hehe...
Yes even as I saw that thing from distance I could tell that this is bad quality ;-)))
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But tell me, what cymbals are you planning on getting? And also, will you be set up more balanced, symetrical and easy to reach like me, or spread out with the ride to one side like bruford?
For cymbals I'm planning a setup of turkish Istanbul Mehmet and italian UFIP cymbals. These two manufacturers are what I experienced so far the only ones who produce cymbals that sound really warm, earthy, jazzy and honest (like the old Zildjians) even in lower price segments. What disturbs me concerning today's cymbals is that most of them sound sythetic. They are made by machines and sound like machines. I'd like to make a trip to Italy/toscana where you can visit the people manufacturing the cymbals at UFIP personally and choose your ones out of the factory's store. Of course others like Paiste, Meinl or Zildjian have such cymbals too but very much more exclusive (and expensive) and that is not what I am searching for at the moment...

The absolutely symmetrical setup is absolutely natural I think. The most important parts of the drumset are HiHat, Snare and Bass. Consequently it's logical to put them in the very middle to be able to play them with both hands (feet) equally. Fact is: just technologically it was not possible to build a kit up like this so far. But today the possibilities are given through advanced hardware - so do it!
My ride cymbal will be right of the kit I think at least as long as I have to call myself right-handed ;)
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