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Old 09-28-2012, 12:02 AM
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I was elated when I saw that many online sellers are offering brand new in box 4 piece shell packs of Gretsch's great Renown retro '57 shell packs for range of $700-800 or so. Get them while you can. I have no idea why. Perhaps they're being discontinued. But I am a proud new owner (pictures soon I hope). I looove the sound of Renowns and I was drooling over a cute bop set last week priced at $1,500! Act fast Gretsch junkies...
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:25 AM
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Sweet! Took a bit of looking, but I found a few stores with the lower prices. Wondering if it was just a special run, or if they weren't selling so well. Lots of competition in that area now.
I really like that little bop kit though. I can see it being collectible in the (far) future.
What color did you get?
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:02 AM
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Hey billl. I got the light blue and white color. Ive loved the souind ever since I first played them over a year ago and the deep snare is an added bonus. 750 with free shippoing. I'm happy as a lark. Thanks for asking
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Motor City Blue and White was the first one out and my fave. I am jealous of the bop kit. Congrats All three colors will be collectible.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:48 AM
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That's a bargain, if for no other reason than it's a very cool looking kit. Drum prices are super competitive in the US. You guys have no idea how good you've got it in terms of bargains. Even with the exchange rate as is, we pay in sterling what you pay in $US, & that means you're paying, on average, over 30 less than we are. The poor buggers in Australia are getting raped by comparison, & certain Scandinavian countries even more so. I'm not especially a Gretsch fan, at least not the lower/mid range stuff, but that kit is just so cool for a little over 500, I'd buy one for that price if it were available here. You'd struggle to get a bottom range Pearl Vision for that!
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:14 PM
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Got one. Black. For my kid.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:28 PM
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Larry, You're going to love that little kit it's a real looker. Keep us updated. John
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:26 PM
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Thanks all. I can't wait. They should arriving sometime this week. Yeah this lil kit makes my heart all a flutter.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:22 AM
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Thanks all. I can't wait. They should arriving sometime this week. Yeah this lil kit makes my heart all a flutter.

So - did you get them yet?

And if so - pics? Will you put it in the 'your gear' section.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:03 AM
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So - did you get them yet?

And if so - pics? Will you put it in the 'your gear' section.
Hi Bill. I should have them tomorrow or Saturday. Yeah I know I whine myself about others posting pictures so I'll do my best to satisfy. Maybe even one of those trite "unboxing" step by step photo sessions. Undressing, as it were. No wonder people call it "drum porn". Thanks for asking.
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Hello everyone, longtime reader of the site. Thanks for the heads up on the reduced prices!

This is my 3rd Gretsch kit and 2nd maple Renown. I've been lucky enough to get decent deals on them all new. Blue is my favorite color and i've always liked the Renown 57' Motor City Blue since i got to see it released at NAMM a few years back.

About 7 months ago I bought a Catalina Club Jazz kit for a home/practice kit. I've really grown to love the 18" bass drum and ease of playing around the 12" and 14" toms. So when I saw the bop 57' Renown's discounted I knew I had to have one.

It got dropped off this morning. I'm a Remo guy and plan to change heads this weekend before i fully set it up and play it. I can't resist posting some pictures from my phone. I'm super stoked! Thanks for listening if you've made it this far.
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:03 PM
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.... I'm a Remo guy and plan to change heads this weekend before i fully set it up and play it...

The drums look really good.

I think you should set them up, and give them a try with the heads they came with. Maybe you'll like them.
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Mine just came in yesterday, waiting for my son to get home from SAT's then we'll set them up, they'll be his so he'll finally have a bop kit, he's been playing small group stuff on a vintage premier ( 12, 14, 20) but the 20 is a bit hard to get under control without over muffling. Couldn't pass on the deal, probably end up selling the snare. Now he doesn't have to borrow my sonors anymore!
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:01 PM
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PS, glad to see the kick came with an eq4 and not an emad, that would be too much for a small kick IMO.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:57 PM
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...probably end up selling the snare....

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In my very humble opinion, selling the snare would be a mistake.
That set has a very unique look to it, the snare probably wouldn't look right with another set, and should you ever decide to sell them in the future, having the full kit would probably add to its value.
If you don't need to use the snare, you could just park it in a closet or something.

They're your drums though - ha ha.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:00 PM
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In my very humble opinion, selling the snare would be a mistake.
That set has a very unique look to it, the snare probably wouldn't look right with another set, and should you ever decide to sell them in the future, having the full kit would probably add to its value.
If you don't need to use the snare, you could just park it in a closet or something.

They're your drums though - ha ha.
What he said!............
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Keep the snare....Ebay is full of them and very over priced. Or sell it to me.
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:26 AM
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Keep the snare....Ebay is full of them and very over priced. Or sell it to me.

You're not kidding. There's a few for sale - way overpriced, and mostly from a couple sellers.
I also noticed a store or two selling the kits without the snare.

EDIT: checked the 'completed listings' and the high priced ones have all been listed before - with no takers. Someone's going to have to drop the price or be stuck with a lot of snare drums.

I guess they're a classic already - ha ha.


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Old 10-07-2012, 01:42 AM
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The drums look really good.

I think you should set them up, and give them a try with the heads they came with. Maybe you'll like them.
Thanks!

I was not a fan of the G2's that came on my silver slate sparkle Renown and haven't played on toms with clear resos in a few years. The cheap unlogoed clear resos that come on Renowns aren't anything special to me. I actually keep stock heads from my kits and set them aside in the rare event i want to sell it(never sold a drum yet though)

I'm interested to hear what this snare can do.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:00 AM
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Hello everyone, longtime reader of the site. Thanks for the heads up on the reduced prices!

This is my 3rd Gretsch kit and 2nd maple Renown. I've been lucky enough to get decent deals on them all new. Blue is my favorite color and i've always liked the Renown 57' Motor City Blue since i got to see it released at NAMM a few years back.

About 7 months ago I bought a Catalina Club Jazz kit for a home/practice kit. I've really grown to love the 18" bass drum and ease of playing around the 12" and 14" toms. So when I saw the bop 57' Renown's discounted I knew I had to have one.

It got dropped off this morning. I'm a Remo guy and plan to change heads this weekend before i fully set it up and play it. I can't resist posting some pictures from my phone. I'm super stoked! Thanks for listening if you've made it this far.


Everdread,
It appears you have put the logo head on the batter side of the bass drum instead of the resonant ( audience side) side. Was this done on purpose ? You can see on the picture posted previously the white chevron is on the natter side of the bass drum, not the resonant side.
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It appears you have put the logo head on the batter side of the bass drum instead of the resonant ( audience side) side. Was this done on purpose ? You can see on the picture posted previously the white chevron is on the natter side of the bass drum, not the resonant side.
Ah. Good observation. It was not on purpose. I only wanted to put the heads and hoops on. Didn't notice in my excitement and rush.
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the picture of the interior doesn't seem to show the silver sealer that is usually in the Renowns.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:18 AM
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Just pulled the trigger on a Red Bop kit. Need another kit like a hole in the head (this will be kit #8) but I just couldn't resist. $729 plus shipping, that's a no-brainer. I was looking at some high end 6.5 x 14 snares that cost more than this whole kit. So with this setup, I'm getting that deep snare drum but with a bop kit to boot - and for less money!

Will post pictures when they land here , over the border. BTW, my local Long & McQuade's price on this kit is still $1739.00!!!!!

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the picture of the interior doesn't seem to show the silver sealer that is usually in the Renowns.
Sorry, it's hard to see in the pictures I took with my phone. All the drums including snare have the silver sealer though.
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Mine just came in yesterday, waiting for my son to get home from SAT's then we'll set them up, they'll be his so he'll finally have a bop kit, he's been playing small group stuff on a vintage premier ( 12, 14, 20) but the 20 is a bit hard to get under control without over muffling. Couldn't pass on the deal, probably end up selling the snare. Now he doesn't have to borrow my sonors anymore!
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Nice gift for your son.

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OK attached are phone pics, but I got the kit last Friday evening. All I can say is this may be the best $748 I've ever spent. Unboxing this thing, there's definitely a wow factor. Quite stunning. I can't believe someone would want to ditch the snare - it's the best sounding drum of the kit. 10 lugs. Very sweet, warm, trashy too a bit. Impressive. This isn't some throwaway cheap sounding snare. The 14" floor tom and other 12" sound very classic vintage to my ears. The only tricky thing will be the the 18" bass. I'm gonna need to work with that to get some punch out of it. It's rather quiet so far. I love the kit though. I fel I can play better with this smaller sizes as well. Another wird thing is that I could not play a tune Beatles with it. Music came on and I felt guilty and skipped to another. Almost sacriligious (sp?) to play with anything other than a Ludwig. Other than that, I'd highly recommend this. More comments after I play it some more.
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Looks very nice buddy. Congrats!
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Nice gift for your son.

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Yeah, he's a senior at the local performing arts high school here in Houston, same school that produced Chris Dave, Eric Harland, Kendrick Scott and Jamire Williams. I can only hope. Anywasy he picked up his first church gig, 75 bucks every Sunday, a lot better than working at Kroger or McDonalds! Set the kit up today, it really sounds great, we took the g1s and put them on the bottom and put some ambassador X heads I had on the tops. Cranked em up, nice jazz sond, warm. Maybe we'll rethink the snare, I'm going to see if I can get some good sound samples. He's got some nice snares, but neither of us has a 6.5. I buy them, like them, but never end up using them on gigs.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:11 AM
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They look great Larry.

I have a question for you guys about them. They're advertised as having die cast rims. When I went to look at them today, the rims didn't look like what I thought they would - thicker cast block type pieces. They looked like thicker, triple-flanged rims. Like maybe 2.3 vs. the more standard 1.6 (or whatever they are).
EDIT: went back today (10/11/12) and the ones on the set there were definitely die-cast. Either I didn't look close enough before, or they were changed. /EDIT

Any insight into this? I'm not too up on rim types. All the kits I've had, have had the thinner standard type rims.

I also think it's not good for Gretsch that some places are selling the kits without the snares, in the hopes of making a killing on the snare.
That unique design on the snare definitely belongs with the rest of the kit.

I liked most of what I saw of the kit, except for the tom mounting system. I'm not too keen on that. But I'm sure that looks aside, it works just fine.

It might take a change of heads or something to get the sound you want out of the bass. But I think you'll probably get it eventually.
Have fun with them. That's what it's all about.

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Old 10-09-2012, 11:23 PM
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For those who have purchased one of these kits online, how well are they packaged from Gretsch? I've always been leary of purchasing drums online because of how they might arrive after shipping, but this seems like a deal I can't pass up. Were they packed well in their factory boxes?
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:39 PM
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For those who have purchased one of these kits online, how well are they packaged from Gretsch? I've always been leary of purchasing drums online because of how they might arrive after shipping, but this seems like a deal I can't pass up. Were they packed well in their factory boxes?
Yes yes yes! Packaged superbly. Don't worry. They'll come in two managable boxes.
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Yeah, no problems, remember they have to be shipped to the store too!
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Wow congratulations!!!

What are the sizes of the packed boxes? I'm travelling to the US and it sems that I can bring those as my baggage!
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These kits are selling like hot nuts. I know 2 other local people who ordered a bop kit on eBay in the last two days. And this is a small city! 400,000 peeps!
I wonder, are they really discontinued or the distributor (is it Kaman?) just dropped the price to spur sales....which appears to be working!

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OK attached are phone pics, but I got the kit last Friday evening. All I can say is this may be the best $748 I've ever spent. Unboxing this thing, there's definitely a wow factor. Quite stunning. I can't believe someone would want to ditch the snare - it's the best sounding drum of the kit. 10 lugs. Very sweet, warm, trashy too a bit. Impressive. This isn't some throwaway cheap sounding snare. The 14" floor tom and other 12" sound very classic vintage to my ears. The only tricky thing will be the the 18" bass. I'm gonna need to work with that to get some punch out of it. It's rather quiet so far. I love the kit though. I fel I can play better with this smaller sizes as well. Another wird thing is that I could not play a tune Beatles with it. Music came on and I felt guilty and skipped to another. Almost sacriligious (sp?) to play with anything other than a Ludwig. Other than that, I'd highly recommend this. More comments after I play it some more.

Did anyone notice in these photos the bass drum is backward, the chevron should be front facing.

Sorry, yes someone did mention it.
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Got my Renown 57 in Red yesterday. Holy crap, that's a lotta drum kit for $729.
I was thinking of buying the kit from a seller on the bay that was offering it without the snare. I am so glad I got the snare, it just might be the best drum of the four...but I do like them all.

Put clear emperors on toms and an Aquarian vintage classic on the snare. Ordered that same head for a bass drum reso; I think the off white/cream colored head is a good match to the drums.
Here's a crappy phone pic, I'll post more from tomorrow's gig.
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This forum is making me crazy - ha ha.

I wanted a bop kit earlier this year, and somehow ended up with 2 Yamaha Bop kits, one in Natural Wood and one in Cranberry Red.
The NW was $499 new, and the CR was $299 used (just couldn't pass that one up). So I got both for about $798.

I looked at the Gretsch, and there are many things I like way more about it, like the hoops, the number of lugs, the fact that it comes with a snare and a riser, and so on.
But at the time I looked at them, the one kit was almost twice the price of the 2 kits I got. Now with the price drop, they come out almost the same. And I really don't need two bop sets.

I got crazy enough to check with a re-seller what they'd give me for them, and it would be very little. By the time I could sell both of them locally, the Gretsch kits might be gone.

When I play the Yamaha kits, I'm very satisfied with them. I like them a lot and still think they're a good deal.

It's only when I visit the forums that I start thinking of how I could finaggle a deal somehow to get the '57 instead.

This forum is making me crazy - LOL.



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Old 10-13-2012, 03:26 PM
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Get the Gretsch now while you can, so you don't regret it forever. See which ones you like the best. Keep the one you like, and sell the rest. Or keep them all. Seems simple to me! :)
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Got my Renown 57 in Red yesterday. Holy crap, that's a lotta drum kit for $729.
I was thinking of buying the kit from a seller on the bay that was offering it without the snare. I am so glad I got the snare, it just might be the best drum of the four...but I do like them all.

Put clear emperors on toms and an Aquarian vintage classic on the snare. Ordered that same head for a bass drum reso; I think the off white/cream colored head is a good match to the drums.
Here's a crappy phone pic, I'll post more from tomorrow's gig.
I don't know if you would be willing to do this but could you post a photo of your kit set up but with the chevrons on the two toms and snare pointed away from the audience so they don't show from the front. I'm not a big fan of the chevrons on this kit but with this price I should be able to live with them if I can make them less viewable. Thanks!
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