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Old 03-10-2006, 08:54 AM
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I don't think anyone has posted this video yet, it's a really cool video with him playing brushes. You don't see a whole lot of him with brushes, which is surprising because he tears it up! Really great piano too, I keep finding my self paying more attention to it than to Gadd!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j8Ch5lU5dw&search=gadd

Gadd simply owns...Fatastic clip...I swear, learing how to play with brushes really makes you a better drummer overall...You can tell from this small sample that Steve Gadd was truley blessed with a gift...Not many are.
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Old 03-10-2006, 12:53 PM
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He is EASILY the most technical drummer at all time. And he grooves too. Oh yes, he grooves.
Well, the latter part is right. But how on earth do you reckon him a more technical drummer than Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Buddy Rich, Bill Cobham, Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang, Jo Jo Mayer or similar? He's not even close. And if you're talking about actual clean physical motion he's still not a patch on Vinnie, or Joe Morello, or Jim Chapin... or any number of great modern jazz players.
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Old 03-10-2006, 08:16 PM
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Steve Gadd is phenominal drummer with alot of great licks up his sleeve.
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Well, the latter part is right. But how on earth do you reckon him a more technical drummer than Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Buddy Rich, Bill Cobham, Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang, Jo Jo Mayer or similar? He's not even close. And if you're talking about actual clean physical motion he's still not a patch on Vinnie, or Joe Morello, or Jim Chapin... or any number of great modern jazz players.
About the technical part... Analazing Gadd solos, especially on Chick Corea records, makes you wonder if there's any post-1980 drummer that really invented new technique (ok, Colaiuta, Donati and Lang are out of the competition). Maybe Gadd isn't the fastest single-stroker, but his technique on the kit and in fills is really scary once you try it out yourself. Without Gadd, I wonder if Weckl would've gotten very far...
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Old 03-12-2006, 04:37 AM
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Great video clips of Gadd!

http://www.drumradio.com/clinic.htm
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Old 03-12-2006, 04:56 AM
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Well, the latter part is right. But how on earth do you reckon him a more technical drummer than Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Buddy Rich, Bill Cobham, Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang, Jo Jo Mayer or similar? He's not even close. And if you're talking about actual clean physical motion he's still not a patch on Vinnie, or Joe Morello, or Jim Chapin... or any number of great modern jazz players.
Legend has it that Buddy Rich thought Steve Gadd was the best drummer in the world, after himself, of course. The reason is because, aside from Buddy, Gadd was the most musical drummer ever, and Buddy knew it. None of the drummers you've listed (other than Buddy), can compare to Gadd's musical phrasing and musical taste. THAT'S what makes Gadd, Gadd. Musical phrasing and musical taste. That's why Gadd, not Vinnie, JoJo, Lang, Virgil, et al., is the most studied and imitated drummer of all time, after Buddy Rich, of course.

As for technique, Gadd's technique is impeccable. He's a rudimental drummer with all the chops in the world. He may not have the fastest hands or feet, but, his control, feel, time are all supreme. NO ONE has ever played with the feel and time of Steve Gadd.
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Legend has it that Buddy Rich thought Steve Gadd was the best drummer in the world, after himself, of course. The reason is because, aside from Buddy, Gadd was the most musical drummer ever, and Buddy knew it. None of the drummers you've listed (other than Buddy), can compare to Gadd's musical phrasing and musical taste. THAT'S what makes Gadd, Gadd. Musical phrasing and musical taste. That's why Gadd, not Vinnie, JoJo, Lang, Virgil, et al., is the most studied and imitated drummer of all time, after Buddy Rich, of course.
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I would have to disagree. I find Gadd, Vinne, Virgil, and Jo Jo's musical ability to be far better than Buddy's IMO...When I think of Buddy, "musical" is not something that jumps into my mind...Just my humble opinion.
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:16 AM
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Debating the merits of Gadds technique is a dead end. I would certainly point to some other already mentioned artists if a student wanted to study tehcnique. Steve's grip is unconventional but it's what works for him. Can other guys "outplay" him? Probably and I doubt that he would even argue that. The truth of the whole matter is that he is a complete musician and consistently contributes his artistry to any performer he works with, He can make something very simple sound so tasty. Eg: the little bass drum fill on the intro to Carly Simon's "You Belong To Me". Three notes that just fit the feel perfectly. I really can't think of any player who defines playing in the pocket any better than Gadd.
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Old 03-12-2006, 09:34 AM
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Steve Gadd is such a humble guy - but no doubt, he's the star. He is the only one - beside Charlie perhabs - who needs bodyguards at Pasic.

Take all these clinics: half full or half empty, people coming and going.

But the Steve Gadd Clinic: two hours before the show started, the lobby was packed. No chance to enter (...glad, that I have the backstage-pass - lol)

Then during the show: you could hear a needle drop. Full attention from the first note to the last. And he pulls out his well known licks and grooves - in such a beauty and clearness: drive tears in your eyes. And really impressive: standing just beside the man, hear the dynamics and attacks: again much more impressing than on videos or Dvd's.

And behind the curtains: the whole drummerworld community is watching: Ed Soph, John Riley, Steve Smith, Thomas Lang, Virgil Donati, Russ Miller, Ed Shaughnessy, Steve Houghton, Stanton Moore, Jason Bittner, John Blackwell, Bernard Purdie....to name a few.

So it's clear:

STEVE GADD IS THE STAR OF DRUMMERWORLD

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Old 03-12-2006, 11:27 AM
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he really is. i don't know how, but somehow he was always the guy i kept coming back to on the site, no matter how many clips i still had to see.
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:11 AM
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Sorry folks, this is long….

I just read a few post's here regarding what the BIG fuss is about Steve as well as others criticizing his technique and chops (or lack of) … well here's my input on Steve.

I believe (and im in good company when I say this) part of what makes Gadd's "sound" so unique is that not only does he have great 'military chops' but 'jazz chops' as well ( he excelled at both styles at a very young age ) which inevitably would become his foundation for the studio work that would follow.

For instance, Steve had an uncanny ability to take rudiments and apply them to the kit and make the groove come to life. And you would never know that he was playing a rudiment, unless you took the time to dissect the groove (audio examples at bottom of page)

Stanton Moore is another very interesting drummer, who knows how to take a sticking pattern and apply it many ways around the kit musically…. But Steve was doing this on hit records in the 70's.

Lets talk about linear drumming and 4 way independence (as applied in linear drumming). Steve was without a doubt one of the originators of this style. Again, steve was pulling this stuff off musically on hit records (audio examples below) Check out Danny Gottlieb's quote, it's very interesting what he has to say.

There is MUCH more to Steve's drumming that I don’t even know how to put into words. To me, Steve's drumming will always be an enigma. His grooves are like riddles and I am constantly finding new things the more I "listen"

I guess if I had to choose just one word to describe why Steve has been so successful, then that word would have to be "feel" … Bernhard has mentioned this before, that its one thing to be able to play a Gadd groove/fill, but, it is a completely different matter in achieving his feel.

I remember reading that Paul Simon mentioned when some other drummers tried to play the "50 ways" the groove just didn’t feel/sound right even though the notes were correct. To me, this says it all.

But hey why listen to me, im just an average drummer.... So im including a few quotes from some of the greatest drummers in the world for their take on Gadd.


Danny Gottlieb (Mahavishnu Orchestra, Gil Evans, Pat Metheny)

"Another interesting topic to note....Gary Chester was another great, legendary NY studio drummer in the 60's and 70's, and later in life, after his incredible studio career, before his untimely passing in the 80's, became a world renown drumset instructor. I took some lessons with Gary, and was involved with helping him get started on a drumming text, which was later published as an instruction book called "The New Breed." Since Gary's passing, the book has become one of the main texts used in the study modern drumming, and specifically in styles that relate to the innovations of Steve Gadd!

A few months ago, I was cleaning out a box of old cassettes, and I saw one labeled: "Gary Chester 1 and 2." I figured that it was a tape of me practicing Gary's book. As it turned out, it was an interview tape, of me asking Gary specific questions, to be used for the introduction of the book! As it turns out, there are very few tapes of Gary's lessons, or even his voice. I turned the tape over to his family, and they are in the process of editing it for the purpose of including it in future releases of "The New Breed."

The reason I mention it, is many of the questions I asked Gary related specifically to Steve Gadd. The point I was making, in the discussion with Gary, was that the method book he was writing contained some very advanced groove and coordination ideas, that really were not found in the traditional studio drumming that Gary himself had played. When you hear him on "Bad Bad Leroy Brown", or "Do the Locomotion", or "Do You Believe in Magic?", the drumming was straight-ahead, as compared to the advanced coordination exercises in "The New Breed."

My point to Gary, as mentioned on the tape, was that when Steve Gadd started to be recognized as a studio performer, his groove style, with creative nuances, became an example of a CREATIVE drummer, whose drumming became accepted as a commercial style. It was something to me that was almost unheard of before Steve's influence. I have heard people mention that they feel Steve Gadd invented "Disco" because he used the device of playing off-beats on the hi-hat as a musical nuance. It became one of the main points of our conversation, and when the tape is released, I hope Steve's fans will enjoy hearing Gary's responses and comments. And, of course, Gary, loved Steve's playing as well!"


Peter Erskine;
"I can't think of another percussionist today who has inspired more drummers than Steve Gadd. His level of innovation, sheer technical mastery of the instrument, and dedication to the groove in every style of music he plays has delighted and instructed countless drummers in how good drumming can be. I'm grateful for every paradiddle, single and double stroke the man has ever played."

Vinnie Colaiuta;
" I couldn't believe it from the first time I heard Steve. Not only does he do what he does with technical brilliance, but he basically put the word "music" right in the forefront of the drums. His influence on me was tremendous, as well as his influence on the entire drumming and musical world!
Steve contribution to the music has made a huge impact in the way drummers play everywhere. He is unquestionably one of the most important drummers that ever lived. And he's totally unique. What Steve has to say on the drums every drummer needs to heed, for he'll show you how to play music at it's highest level. Thank you, Steve, for all you've given us. We are all deeply indebted to you."

Dennis Chambers
"Steve is one of the greatest drummers of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries. He caused me many a nights' headaches trying to figure out his rhythms, but I enjoyed doing it."

Kenny Aronoff;
"Steve Gadd is one of the greatest and most influential drummers/musicians ever! His feel, ideas and talent with music and drumming are at the highest level possible. It's an honor to know him."

Gregg Bissonette;
"Steve Gadd has been one of my drum heroes ever since I heard Chick Corea "The Leprechaun" album. I'm proud to consider Steve my friend. He's a great and every warm-hearted human being. He is a lesson on making the band feel good!"

Ringo Starr;
"If there is a finer drummer in Christendom I'm sure i don't know who it is."

Carter Beauford;
"I got my first Yamaha kit in 1978 because my hero, Steve Gadd, used them. I still play a black Recording Custom kit beacuse of him."

"Steve God."
What the musicians in Sheena Easton's band called Steve.

Steve Smith;
"His pocket is the deepest, his time is flawless and his ideas innovative. In fact, I get asked all the time about a certain fill I played in the Journey tune "Separate Ways", my answer: it's a Gadd lick, and I stole it! thank you Steve for all the incredible music"

Andy Newmark (former drummer of John Lennon, David Bowie, Keith Richards, Sly & the Family Stone, Roxy Music and many others.) ;
"Steve is an institution. When you see him play he makes it all make sense. The reason it always works is because Steve is playing Steve. He's probably the first guy to understand and have a genuine feel for rock and pop-and have the technical facility and feel of a jazz drummer as well. He's an original, poetry in motion"

Louie Bellson;
"Steve Gadd represents one of the most complete players in the world. He has it all, technique, groove, you name it. I've been a big fan of his for many years."

Danny Gottlieb (Mahavishnu Orchestra, Gil Evans, Pat Metheny)
"Steve is one of the originators of this style, and one of the great artists on the instrument. He was able to incorporate an individual style into something that was accepted into a commercial idiom.
Steve seems like one of the nicest guys on the planet-very real. I love him for his uniqueness-for that style he kind of invented. It's interesting to see where other drummers have taken it, like Weckl, Cliff Almond, Zach Danziger, and Tom Brechtlein. They've all drawn on Steve's style"

Dave Weckl;
"The first thing I remember hearing Steve on was Chick Corea's 'Humpty Dumpty'. When I heard him play, I lost it. After that, I listened a lot to Steve's work with Chick."

Buddy Rich ;
"I love drummers, but it disappoints me because they have not elevated the art of drumming. They've set it back quite a few years. I think the only guy who made a dent in the change-over, if you want to call it that, was Gadd. Steve Gadd was and probably still is, the best at that particular kind of drumming. I think that's because he has a jazz background, so he's able to incorporate it when he plays. He was very interesting in the beginning. Out of all the drummers I've heard, Gadd would have to be the one who has the most class behind the drums"



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I'm not a Gaddhead and so far from what I've heard/seen, I really can't see why people bow down to him so much.

If someone can please list his...let's say 5 best drum parts (besides the obligatory Steely Dan songs), I'd appreciate it.
Only 5…well, when I was going through my collection I realised that there was soooo much great material to choose from that I just wanted to keep posting more and more tunes. But, I restrained myself and stopped at 20 :-) seriously thou, i dont think i could give you 5 best drum parts, each one of these tunes have their own special place. Not to mention that Steve's discography is so huge, and i dont own everything the man has played. His best work is something that i probably havent even heard yet.... but, im pretty sure that these tunes that i posted would be up there on the best of list..... enjoy the short clips..
p.s. sorry i could not resist posting tune # 7 :-)
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File Type: mp3 1 Chick_Corea_Nite_Sprite.mp3 (942.4 KB, 806 views)
File Type: mp3 2 Brecker_Brothers___Night_flight.mp3 (1.83 MB, 753 views)
File Type: mp3 3 Stanley_Clarke___concerto_for_jazz_rock_orchestra__excerpt_.mp3 (1.89 MB, 762 views)
File Type: mp3 4 Freddi_Hubbard__WindJammer.mp3 (1.46 MB, 769 views)
File Type: mp3 5 Al_DiMeola___Casino.mp3 (1,023.7 KB, 750 views)
File Type: mp3 6 Jun_Fukamachi___love_play.mp3 (4.59 MB, 770 views)
File Type: mp3 7 Van_McCoy__the_hustle_.mp3 (1.07 MB, 793 views)
File Type: mp3 8 Chuck_Mangione___i_get_crazy.mp3 (561.2 KB, 750 views)
File Type: mp3 9 Paul_Simon_late_in_the_evening.mp3 (674.0 KB, 721 views)
File Type: mp3 10 Chick_Corea_Falling_Alice.mp3 (1.68 MB, 768 views)
File Type: mp3 11 Quincy_Jones___stuff_like_that.mp3 (941.6 KB, 756 views)
File Type: mp3 12 Stuff__Junior_Walker_Medley.mp3 (1.99 MB, 749 views)
File Type: mp3 13 Al_Jarreau___Spain.mp3 (1.04 MB, 748 views)
File Type: mp3 14 Carly_Simon___Memorial_Day.mp3 (1.38 MB, 762 views)
File Type: mp3 15 Rickie_Lee_Jones___Chuck_E_s_in_Love.mp3 (953.9 KB, 785 views)
File Type: mp3 16 Hubert_Laws___Airegen.mp3 (1.68 MB, 719 views)
File Type: mp3 17 Eddie_Gomez__Puccini_s_Walk.mp3 (4.09 MB, 760 views)
File Type: mp3 18 Michal_Urbaniak___Chinatown.mp3 (1.81 MB, 723 views)
File Type: mp3 19 Jun_Fukamachi___Rocks.mp3 (4.58 MB, 747 views)
File Type: mp3 20 Noel_Pointer___rainstorm.mp3 (3.19 MB, 697 views)
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Old 03-20-2006, 05:47 AM
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p.s. sorry i could not resist posting tune # 7 :-)
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:23 AM
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Ahhh, The Hustle. One of those songs you say; "Hmmmm, sounds like Gadd, but it couldn't be....could it?"
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:30 AM
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Thank you Berlioz for this in deep work - and the Soundfiles.

This is really a great contribution - also for the youngster drummers who are just discovering Steve Gadd finally - after have entered the drummerworld with TB and JJ.

A nice contrepoint to all these statements of drummers who just looking for the hair in the soup.

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Berlioz,

"Airegen" and "Love Play" were great. Thanks for posting those.
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Old 03-31-2006, 05:32 PM
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great stuff berlioz!! thanks!

i would like to add some other stuff, mainly
focussing on some jazz and jazz&rock tunes ...some in 5/4 , 3/4, 6/8....and
at the end some famous pop work.
also focussing on his outstanding brush work in some tunes, with
his very own chops ...


Steps - Uncle Bob
4:4soloing ....over a jazz peace from the studio recording: Step by Step -1980 1,3mb
Steps - Not Ethiopia
great solo from the live steps... from: Smokin' In The Pit - 1980 2,7mb
Manhattan Transfer - Confirmation
heavy jazz phrasing with trademark chops...from: Mecca for moderns -1981 0,8mb
Manhattan Jazz Quintet - Rosario
trademark licks in soloing a fast bebop tune - from: Manhattan Jazz Quintet - 1984 1,4mb
Bob Berg - Ramiro's Dream
6/8 groove - soloing with polyrhythms - open playing from: Riddles - 1994 2,3mb
Chick Corea - QUARTET NO. 2 - PART 2 solo
the solo - i think the most technically solo from gadd i know from: Three Quartets - 1981 3,2mb
Al Di Meola - Egyptian Danza
featuring his tricky hihat-snare-bassdrum trademark pattern in a rock context - from: Tour de Force Live - 1981 0,9mb
Eddie Gomez - Mez-Ga
duo with eddie gomez and gadd - gadd plays only with 1 bassdrumpedal...from: Gomez -1984 1,4mb
Eddie Gomez - A Japanese Waltze
fantastic brush work in a 3/4 jazz context from: Gomez - 1984 1,4mb
Lee Ritenour - French Roast
famous track with chops over 5/4 from: Feel The Night - 1979 1,7mb
Tribute to Jaco Pastorius - A Remark You made
outro soloing...the cd is booooahhh, great erskine, brecker ect. from:
Who loves You? - A Tribute to Jaco Pastorius - 1998 1,4mb
Steve Kahn - An Eye Over Autumn
his solo during the ride-out of "An Eye Over Autumn"(Rick Marotta's expression of disbelief listening to the playback, then looking over to Steve and saying, with great love of course, "I hate you!" from: The Blue Man - 1978 2,7mb
George Benson - One on One
nice brushwork with gaddism-licks and chops... from:Absolute Benson - 2000 1,4mb
Tom Scott - Jove Poem
very nice brush groove from: Tom Scott and the L.A. Express-Bluestreak - 1996 1,7mb
Tom Scott - Dirty Old Man
chops and groove... from: Tom Scott and the L.A. Express-Bluestreak - 1996 1,9mb
Al Jarreau - My Favourite Things
playing 3/4jazz with heavy beat movement phrasing from:Tenderness - 1994 1mb


some grooves:

Joe Sample - Mystery Child
simple groove:-) from: Joe Sample and the Soul Committee - Did You Feel That - 1994 1,8mb
Michel Jonasz - Ou vont les reves
simple groove:-) from the french singer Michel Jonasz - Où vont les rêves - 2002 1mb
Al Jarreau - Save Me
nice hihat work in a 16th pop context with nice breaks...from: Breakin' Away - 1981 2mb
Al Jarreau - I Will Be Here For You
an example of his orchestral thinking in playing drums, building a track...from:
Jarreau - 1983 1,6mb
Carly Simon - Memorial Day
outro solo - not the one posted by berlioz from; Spy - 1979 0,9mb

all mp3 are in vbr for nice quality and small file sizes.

hope you like my little "gadd on jazz view"....

happy listening

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Please could anyone possibly put an Mp3 file of 'Late In The Evening' by Paul Simon? I just need it to hear the mozabique groove steve played on it, as I'm currently learning it....
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Paul Simon - Late in the Evening - Video 17mb- 1980


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Please could anyone possibly put an Mp3 file of 'Late In The Evening' by Paul Simon? I just need it to hear the mozabique groove steve played on it, as I'm currently learning it....
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anyone else read the book about the beatles written by george martin (producer on sgt. pepper). there's a mention of steve gadd when he played alongside ringo on Paul McCartney's solo stuff. he describes steve as a "very clean and enormously precise drummer, a great technical performer."
just thought you'd like to know.
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tomgadd - Wow! Great stuff! I'm working my way through your post now.
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hope you like my little "gadd on jazz view"....

happy listening
I liked it a lot. Thanks

What a nice way to start a week-end and having the chance to listen to such nice Steve Gadd work, which, apart from the Chick Corea and Al Dimeola excerpts, was unknown to me.

Thank you specifically for the "groove section". You listen to this, and you can only wish he could just play on every album.
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and finally some other favourites....


great brush work
A Tribute To Jaco Pastorius - Jaco
another tune with fine brush work from: Who loves You? - A Tribute to Jaco Pastorius - 1998 0,8mb
Steps Ahead - Belle
gadd with tasty brushes and hot phrasing and hot licks...from: Steps Ahead - Step by Step - 1980 2,3mb


Tom Scott - Breezin
cool groove...from: Tom Scott - Intimate Strangers - 1978 0,9mb
Al Jarreau - Distracted
Al Jarreau at his best and Gadd with groove and licks - from:Al Jarreau - This Time - 1980 2mb
Dave Valentin - Bourree In E Minor
very rare recording with gadd, showing beat-displacement...nice and tricky groove...from: Dave Valentin - Legends - 1979 1mb
David Matthews - Sambafrique
rare record...gadd and samba...from: David Matthews - Grand Cross - 1983 1mb
Jeremy Steig - Hop Scotch
classic gadd groove...from: Jeremy Steig - Firefly - 1977 1,9mb
Rickie Lee Jones - Juke Box Fury
you can figure out the lick after the chorus he's playing? from: Rickie Lee Jones - Magazine - 1984 1,4mb
Michel Jonasz - Doucement
nice groove... from the french singer Michel Jonasz - Où vont les rêves - 2002 1mb
Michel Jonasz - Terre
nice intro....from the french singer Michel Jonasz - Où vont les rêves - 2002 1mb
Sergio Salvatore - So You Said
tasty soloing.....from Sergio Salvatore - Point of Presence - 1997 1,2mb
Angela Bofill - Share your Love
typical gadd groove, 16th groove with hihat and bell...from : Angela Bofill - Angie - 1978 1,1mb
David Sanborn - Man From Mars
listen to that tasty phrasing and soloing...bassdrum...from: David Sanborn - timeagain - 2003 1,5mb
David Sanborn - Sugar
typical gadd groove....from: David Sanborn - timeagain - 2003 0,9mb
Wlodek Gulgowski - Manhatten Vibes
very very rare stuff, not available anymore...polish keyboardplayer, anthony jackson and gadd...from: Wlodek Gulgowski - Soundcheck - 1976 2mb
Bob James - The Golden Apple
paradiddle....from: Bob James - Two 1975 1,3mb
Leo Sayer - You make me Feel like Dancing
typical gadd groove on a smash hit in the seventies....from: Leo Sayer - Endless Flight - 1976 1,2mb
Michel Colombier - Overture
incorporating snare rudiments....rare stuff...from: Michel Colombier - Michel Colombier - 1979 1,1mb
Edie Brickell - Take A Walk
fine tasty 3/4 brush work on a pop-tune...from: Edie Brickell - Volcano - 2003 1,4mb
Steps Ahead - Bullet Train
special gadd groove...from: Steps Ahead - Step by Step - 1980 1,8mb
Steve Kahn - Daily Bulls 1
groove groove...from: The Blue Man - 1978 1,4mb
Steve Kahn - Daily Bulls 2
groove groove...from: The Blue Man - 1978 1,4mb
Steve Khan - Daily Valley
tasty phrasing...from: The Blue Man - 1978 1,4mb
Steve Khan - Some Down Time 1
groove.....from: The Blue Man - 1978 1,4mb
Steve Khan - Some Down Time 2
groove.....from: The Blue Man - 1978 1,1mb
Art Farmer-Jim Hall - Whisper Not
very gaddism in jazz context....from: Art Farmer-Jim Hall - Big Blues - 1978 1mb
Art-Farmer - Dulzura
gadd and latin...very rare recording only issued in japan... from: Art Farmer - Yama - 1979 1,9mb

hope you like that insight in gadds work over the years

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I truly disagree with several of these posts. Gadd has a better technique than just about anyone. He has better and more chops than just about anyone. He is more innovative and imaginative than just about anyone. And there is no-one more musical and more solid.

Remember, however, that just because you can do stuff, however, doesn't mean you should. That is what makes Gadd such a great drummer. He always does what is necessary for the song and no more. There are many musical cliches which have more than an essence of truth: One particularly appropriate for Gadd is "it's not what you put in its what you leave out."

For those who are unsure about his technique and chops listen to some of the stuff he has done with Chick Corea and Chuck Mangione as well as some of his solo work with the Gadd Gang. For his inventiveness and ability to stay within the pocket listen to some of his work with Rickie Lee Jones - even stuff like Chuck E's in Love is absolutely masterful. Most people are familiar with 50 Ways and with Aja (both of which are remarkable pieces) but there is so more.

He has playing at an incredibly high level for years and years. Even his work with James Taylor (check out "October Road") is truly an artist at work. And all this for a man whose first hit was playing on the Hustle!

I think he is a "deep" player and the more you listen to him the more you learn to appreciate his playing and his overwhelming musicality. Comparing Drummers is never a useful exercise but I believe there is no one better, more musical or more versatile.

Just my opinion, but one shared, I suspect, by many who are members of the "been playing more than 20 years club."

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Agreed. He has a touch and sense of musicality that is not often seen. I look at the majority of drummers coming on the scene in the latest bands and then look at Steve and just shake my head.
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Hey guys i just recently came across a steve gadd video. It has the best piano player i have ever seen a great bass player and of course my man steve. They all do solos throughout this. Hope you guys like it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-j8Ch5lU5...h=Steve%20Gadd
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thanks.

here's a gadd solo with script...
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Actually, the best drummers, are the best because of technic, speed, knowledge, but Steve Gadd, he is the perfection drumming....and is the most important you can say about him....he is just perfect....perfect time, great speed (have you seen the clinic of the simple ratamaque?), perfect control of world rythms.....he is the perfect drumming
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Hey guys i just recently came across a steve gadd video. It has the best piano player i have ever seen a great bass player and of course my man steve. They all do solos throughout this. Hope you guys like it.
Nice, thanks man. I've got their Trio in Tokyo recording but I've never seen Michel Petrucciani play until now.
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Sweet :-) very nice selection Tom

there are a couple of tunes here that i never heard before.
1-Wlodek Gulgowski - Manhattan Vibes ( i love that intro )
2- david matthews - sambafrique ( beautiful groove.. in Cuba they called Steve the "Papa", and for a good reason :-)
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Hey guys its time for another video of steve gadd. I dont think this is posted on his pg here on dw so here it is.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Je_iqbgGX...h=steve%20gadd

Gets really good 2nd half.
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Happy Birthday, Steve!!!!
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I don't want to be a big philosopher becouse you guys know so much more about STEVE GADD (GOD) I just wanna say that the Gadd for me is the trully drummin' legend and the best groove drummer ever!!
Check out dvd of Eric Clapton "One More Car One More Rider" and you will see what I mean
The best sounding dvd I ever see, and Gadd's playing and sound just blow me away!!!!
The totally cool stuff is when Gadd play with four brushes, two in each hand.

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Now this confused me. Look at those sticks, it looks like he's playing a 5B of some sort. Anybody care to shed any light? Those definately aren't his signature sticks and I've never seen him play without the signature sticks.
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Maybe he was playing a house kit? ..................no.........that's not right......

3 things I know about Gadd

Whenever I watch Gadd, I stay silent and still, unconsciously.

His kit sounds great.

He is a huge inspiration, especially to make simple grooves better than complex. By complex I mean Tomas Haake style polyrhythms and different time meters etc. Gadd is complex too, but a nicer complex.

And I'll add a fourth (uh-oh, I'm straying from convention)

The thing he does where he closes the hat in place of a hit, is SO good.
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. . . The thing he does where he closes the hat in place of a hit, is SO good.
Yup! That's the thing!
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Chick Corea - QUARTET NO. 2 - PART 2 solo
the solo - i think the most technically solo from gadd i know from: Three Quartets - 1981 3,2mb

This one has been my favorite for years. I believe it was Modern Drummer that had the whole things transcribed, I would follow along over and over and over. I think it has a great range of dynamics and it great to hear him playing over the vamp too.
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I recently heard that Paul Simon will be the musical guest on Saturday Night Live this week (5/13). I presume he will be playing stuff from his upcoming new album (maybe it's already released?). Anyway, I hear the new album has Steve playing drums and I'm assuming he will then be appearing on SNL also. Let's hope we get a few good camera angles!
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Hey guys its time for another video of steve gadd. I dont think this is posted on his pg here on dw so here it is.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Je_iqbgGX...h=steve%20gadd

Gets really good 2nd half.
Thanks for the post. This is a terrific video. Stanley Clarke is way cool. Whenever I listen to him, I hear exactly where Victor Wooten is coming from. Well, that and Jaco, anyways.
Gadd sounds awesome. One of the things I love about Gadd is how he has all this great licks and they NEVER come off as sounding contrived or unmusical. I love how smooth his drumming is.... Really, one of the greatest drummers ever.
My teacher was co-hosting a jam once in Rochester, and Steve Gadd came and sat in. He brought down the house, did the mozambique with four sticks, etc, all his signature licks and so on. My teacher had to go up and play after that, he said it was the hardest thing he's ever done. A hard act to follow. He tried his best to play Gadd-inspired (you know ripping off all those licks that we can play but can't really play) and Steve said something to the effect of "I admire your commitment to my comping". Apparently he's just the nicest guy going too, incredibly humble and very fun to be around.
We love Gadd. I can't wait to see his clinic in TO.
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just found the whole concert "Steps Ahead 2004 29 aug.2004" on youtube.

here are the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDDY8uMMAZA&search=gadd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGy9baiKsWI&search=gadd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do4mKn8JlAE&search=gadd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBnu2zaCcyI&search=gadd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqz-ljxwDWc&search=gadd


if anybody is interested, i do upload the whole tv-broadcast with stanley clarke, steve gadd and curt cress( a very fine german drummer, whos not mentionend on this site here).with steve gadd curt cress did an album, wich was called "snowball"....hope i'm right...
the tv-broadcast shows amazing drumstuff.curt cress and gadd played the hell out...


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Default Does Steve Gadd play percussion?!?

I came across a video on youtube.com, and unless my eyes are fooling me, Steve Gadd is NOT behind the drumset, but is playing a latin percussion instrument (i dont know the name), next to Don Alias.

The video is basically a cover of Bill Withers' Use Me by D'Angelo. Musicians in the band include Eric Clapton, Don Alias, and Marcus Miller.

Just goto youtube and search for 'use me'...it should be the second match. If you look closely at 02:08 im pretty sure you will see Steve Gadd doing his thing on percussions.

Correct me if im wrong.
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Default Steve Gadd ! Now I know..

I just discover the album of Michel Petrucciani live in Tokyo with Anthony Jackson and STEVE GADD ! Before I was not a Steve Gadd fan but now I know why this guy is a fantastic drummer... He is just uncredible !
I listen to an other alum: Chet Baker, She was too good to me !
Steve play great too..

Fantastic.. He's a great jazz player...
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