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Old 08-04-2008, 02:20 AM
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Default Best Ride Cymbal?

Whats one of the most preferred ride cymbals for rock? I have the 21" zildjian sweet ride, but to be honest with you guys, it is horrible, I can't explain the sound just don't get it.

The cymbals at guitar center always sound different once you buy them after testing them there.

So could anyone give me some ideas on what to get, perhaps one in the 200-300$ range.
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:47 AM
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Hmm...another best ride cymbal post?

For rock, the "standard" is the Zildjian A ride...medium weight. If you want more ping, go with a ping ride. If you want more wash, go with a medium-thin ride. Each individual cymbal is different, so go check out some A rides side-by-side and find out which one you like. If you prefer Sabian, it's the AA medium ride/AA ping ride/AA medium thin ride you'd be looking at.

Of course cymbals are going to sound different in a big show room than they do in your room at home, and at a club, and on a stage, and in a dance hall, and on an outdoor stage, and...pick cymbals that blend/contrast with the cymbals you already have: you'll know that when you play at a new place, your cymbals are going to sound good together. I almost never go cymbal shopping without bringing along some older cymbals to compare the new ones to.

$200-$300 range? You can get 'em for cheaper.

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Old 08-04-2008, 04:13 AM
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If you've got the cash, and are not afraid of scratches, Stewart Copeland's new signature ride sounds and looks great.

Also check out any dry rides from Paiste, it's a very unique sound, you'll love it or hate it.

Another ride that has always been high on my list is the Manhattan Jazz ride, check it out, it's a great all around ride, not just for jazz.
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: Best Ride Cymbal?

would an AAX sabian rock ride, or studio ride be good?

I have 1 crash, it's a 16" zildjian A custom. and old one but in great shape.

I plan on getting more crashes in my future, but i desperately need a new ride.

So, would sabians go well with zildjians? I know they are cousins basically, but still.
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:22 AM
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20 inch A Custom Ping Ride is one of the most Versatile and nicest sounding ride ive ever played in my life.
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:42 AM
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i'll put my 20" b8pro med ride up against any ride. i still haven't found a pro level ride that suits me better.

the ping on the thing is retarded sweet.
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Old 08-04-2008, 09:13 AM
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So, would sabians go well with zildjians? I know they are cousins basically, but still.
As long as they sound good together...
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:18 PM
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I would try the new Armand rides or the 20" A Custom medium
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:39 PM
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I have the Stewart Copeland from Paiste. It's got a great ping and cuts through everything. A new one is ridiculously pricey (although worth it, I think), but you should be able to get a used one for $200-$300. Not especially versatile, but great for rock. Neil Peart's Paragon ride by Sabian is similar--very heavy with a distinct ping and very little wash.
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:44 PM
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I got a Sabian AA 20" Medium-Heavy Ride. Personally I think it's great, so pleasing the first time I heard it when it arrived, because I'd only heard it before through Sabians website, so it was a bit of a gamble. I thought from the sample it gave, that it sounded like it had a lovely ping, great stick definition without a ridiculous amount of sustain, but with more character than many of the 'dry' rides which try to aim for good stick definition. Plus it has a great bell. Look it up:

http://www.sabian.com/EN/products/pr...s1199/type1143
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:37 PM
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I got a Sabian AA 20" Medium-Heavy Ride. Personally I think it's great, so pleasing the first time I heard it when it arrived, because I'd only heard it before through Sabians website, so it was a bit of a gamble. I thought from the sample it gave, that it sounded like it had a lovely ping, great stick definition without a ridiculous amount of sustain, but with more character than many of the 'dry' rides which try to aim for good stick definition. Plus it has a great bell. Look it up:

http://www.sabian.com/EN/products/pr...s1199/type1143
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:54 PM
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20 inch A Custom Ping Ride is one of the most Versatile and nicest sounding ride ive ever played in my life.
I agree. I've used a A. Zildjian Ping Ride for the last 20 years for all my Rock and Big Band gigs.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:15 PM
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What type of music do you play?
Mainly rock. I don't claim to be a jazz drummer in any shape or form, but I do edge more towards rock/jazz than rock/metal. e.g. I think Lars Ulrich is a lousy drummer whereas I think Jimmy Chamberlin is very overlooked.

I think with the ride I got though, it's slightly quiter than most 'rock' rides normally are. It's fairly versatile.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:38 PM
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Sabian HH RBDR (Raw Bell Dry Ride) 21" The best of all things. Wash is great, ping is good, the bell pisses excellence no matter how you hit it. Maybe a trite bit on the loud side for volume...

It's your choice though. Find em', play em', make a choice.

I don't know if you'll find one for less than $300. I believe I paid $315 for mine.
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:57 AM
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Isn't it crazy money when you think that it's just a hammered piece of metal, hammered in exactly the same way it would have been 400 years ago.
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:32 AM
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Isn't it crazy money when you think that it's just a hammered piece of metal, hammered in exactly the same way it would have been 400 years ago.
Well yes and no. That depends largely on which company is making the cymbal in question. Only the Turks and a few custom guys in the world are currently still making cymbals based on the old handed down from generation to generation tradtional methods used in Istanbul, Turkey of actual hand crafted {shaped and hammered totally by hand} cymbals for the record.

The people doing this type of work in Turkey for instance are trained artisans and cymbalsmiths so it's not just about simply picking up a hammer it's knowing what to do with it once it's in your hand :}
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Old 08-18-2008, 04:42 AM
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Hello.

My two babies. You have your own cymbal ride sound and you need to find it.

I found my sound in these two babies: Bosphorus Antique 19 and A Custom Ride 20.



Bosphorus is very versatil and combines dark and bright sound. The A Custom is perfect for jazz. It is very washy and very good stick definition.

But, I repeat. You have to find your own sound.

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Old 08-18-2008, 04:47 AM
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I would try the new Armand rides or the 20" A Custom medium
You are right man. This is a VERY GOOD Cymbal!
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:48 PM
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dude if you want the best bell, trust me with all my rides. I f bell is most important try these

I myself have went on a ride buying mission in the last year to find the best rides and later I will sell all but 2.

This is what I have now and I am blown away

SABIAN 22 HH ROCK RIDE
SABIAN 22 AAX METAL RIDE
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:59 PM
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i have a sabian aax stage ride, 20" and it's really good. it has great a great bright sound and not too much wash, the bell sounds good too
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:47 AM
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I agree. I've used a A. Zildjian Ping Ride for the last 20 years for all my Rock and Big Band gigs.
The only bad thing about it is that i dont have one!

Im still using my 22" A Medium ride, which is also pretty nice, but not that amazing.
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Old 08-30-2008, 08:26 AM
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Okay, now that everyone's chiming in with their favorite cymbals, regardless of the original post...forget what everyone else says and get yourself a 24" K Light Ride. Make sure it's a lighter one, so you get more variety of sounds and more complexity. I can play dry, wet, clicky, pingy, EVERYTHING on this cymbal! Don't believe me? Try one out for yourself!

Oh, and they're really expensive, so if you can...

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Old 08-30-2008, 08:29 AM
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22'' K Custom Dark Ride is my favorite that I've personally hit so far....

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I think its a general consensus amongst drummers that theyre favorite drums, or cymbals or whatever, is the ones they are playing on or the ones they wish they were playing on.


that being said go try some out and find one you like, and then as many have said before buy used.
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Old 08-30-2008, 04:39 PM
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Paiste Signature 22" Power Ride or
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Old 08-30-2008, 05:36 PM
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The 21" AA Rock Ride that Chad Smith from RHCP uses has a nice sound to it.
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Old 08-30-2008, 05:51 PM
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Ive got a Zildjian k dry ride 20 inch...very deep fades quick, not much afterring...thats why i bought it...doesent sound all distorted...each individual stroke sounds clean...problem is vary small bell...almost hard to hit it clean
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Remember that ALL cymbals, drums, bells, whatever, are going to sound somewhat different in GC or wherever you play them than they will at home or anywhere else because of acoustics. Playing a Sweet Ride in a room full of cymbals will sound much different than in your den, bedroom or whatever. You get the point.
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I'm not one to toot my own horn but, I am the best ride cymbal. Yes, ME!

In all seriousness it's personal taste. I love my 24" Paiste Giant Beat and it sounds like greatest to me
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:16 AM
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My personal fave ride is the Paiste 2002 22" Ride. I think this has that classic sound from Bonham, Paice and Moon and others. Personally I just thought it had the perfect mix of volume, ping and wash that I liked.

The 24" Paiste Giant Beat that LM201 mentioned is another good example. I just like the 2002 22" a little better. I have also used the 20" Giant Beat as a ride and really liked that too, although the ping wasn't as defined for my tastes.

Wish I could afford that Copeland model that others have mentioned, but then I'd probably be too scared to play out with it for fear of damage. Such a sweet looking ride.
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Old 09-13-2008, 12:56 AM
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This is what I have now and I am blown away

SABIAN 22 HH ROCK RIDE
SABIAN 22 AAX METAL RIDE
PAISTE 22 signature POWER RIDE
PAISTE 22 REFLECTOR BELL RIDE ( IROM MAIDEN MODEL )
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I too am a fan of the first one on your list. If only I could afford it. **sigh** Someday. ;-)
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:02 AM
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I was going to get a 21" sweet ride because that is the cymbal my idol Louie Bellson uses but when I tried it I didn't like it. Of course I can't play it like he can. I really like the Signature rides. But just because I do doesn't mean you will.
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To my ear the 21" Sweet ride sucks, used as a ride, but it makes a damn fine sounding crash cymbal. I haven't found my nirvana ride yet, but I'm fairly happy with my Sabian Hand Hammered 21" raw bell dry ride. (there's a mouthful)
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I played the Zildjian K Custom Hybrid Ride the other day...
I swear, the instant I get enough money I am buying that thing and making love to it.

It had the darkness that I love about K's, but a tad bit louder and more able to project, a sweet bell, and it's actually very crash-able, and it's just smooth.
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:17 AM
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I've got a 21" Sweet Ride myself and a A Zildjian & Cie Vintage ride (they are discontinued now as of a year ago). The Sweet ride is a nice medium ride, and I use it in everything from jazz combos, big bands, to alternative rock. It has a big sound which took a while to get used to (it's 21" instead of the usual 20" I had always played). However, it can be quite musical, although it stays a little on the bright side. The new Armands are better though, they have a warmer tone. They have everything you could want in a ride cymbal. They never wash out, they have a clear bell, and they can be crashed. Although, apparently most of you people like the heavy metal slabs labeled as ride cymbals these days. Look into the HHX Groove Ride as well, nice warm musical sound here with a lot of versatility. It you are just looking for something to make a loud noise, I would say the Sabian Universal Ride, it's bright, crisp, but not a complete anvil like say the Paragon ride.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:17 AM
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The right question is, who is the best ride cymbal player.
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I know they are cousins basically, but still.
LOL, actually, Sabian is an abbreviation for SAlly, BIlly, and ANn. I forget the exact relation, but they were the children of one the big-cheeses at Zildjian...anyone know what I m talkin bout? Sorry, I like the RUDE line from Paiste. Its never let me down, but I havent really had to change cause the the things too damn durable...When it breaks, I ll have an excuse...
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Sally, Billy, and Andy are Robert Zildjian's children. Robert was Armand's brother. Now those three have kids now, so there is a giant Zildjian family over at Sabian, while Craigie and Debbie Zildjian are the only family members (although there is Craigie's daughter Samantha) left at Avedis Zildjian Cymbal Co. A company that has prided itself on a family business now has no heir.
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Sally, Billy, and Andy are Robert Zildjian's children. Robert was Armand's brother. Now those three have kids now, so there is a giant Zildjian family over at Sabian, while Craigie and Debbie Zildjian are the only family members (although there is Craigie's daughter Samantha) left at Avedis Zildjian Cymbal Co. A company that has prided itself on a family business now has no heir.
Ah..is'nt Samantha the heir? they got rid of that only the first born SON can know the family secret recipe for pies when he told Robert .Thats wy they split is'nt it?(please correct me if it was a different issue).
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