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Old 07-05-2008, 10:40 AM
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I don't seem to have the heart to throw sticks out. I'm so used to playing them until destruction. My current pair of VFirth's Gadd sticks are so bashed and soo worn out (especially the tip.. it's practically gone) but I can't seem to bring myself to get new ones until these break. I've even tried playing extra forcefully to break them to try and justify getting new ones but I just can't..

Do any of you actually retire your sticks? Or are you like me and only use new ones once the old ones are completely destroyed and broken.

This is actually bothering me in a funny way... on the one hand, I'd love to have the nice sound of a fresh new tip and on the other I just can't chuck my sticks out. All my sticks are ancient now. How would you retire your sticks? Give them a nice label saying 'thank you'? Or bury them and stick a memorial gravestone? (Just kidding on these last two but if you really do that, don't tell me.)




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Old 07-05-2008, 11:37 AM
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I switch between my two pairs of Vater 5Bs, and they never seem to want to die. The only time I've "retired" my stick was when the tip would break, or (in the case of some Zildjian Rock Dips I use to play with and still have lying around somewhere) I just let them go if they're not comfortable and stick to the ones I like until they split.
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Old 07-05-2008, 04:30 PM
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I retire my sticks once they split. Sometimes you can't see the split, but you can feel it in the shock absorption.
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Old 07-05-2008, 04:47 PM
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Yes, I do retire them, when they too worn out, mostly from rimshots.
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Old 07-05-2008, 04:51 PM
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I throw them away. After seeing some YouTube footage of guys wearing the lower half of a stick in the face or chest, I don't see a need to wait for them to break. I also get tired of cleaning saw dust off of my bass drum.

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Old 07-05-2008, 07:09 PM
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I throw them out. Once the tips split or the shoulder has been whittled down they've served their tour of duty.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:19 PM
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yes sticks definately have a limited lifespan, i keep all of my old sticks, like you i dont have the heart to throw them out but i do make abstract art with them, some i paste up onto the walls in my studio, some get made into sculptures, iv even hung a triangle on an old pair for myself! see what you can come up with.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:08 PM
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I really ought to throw away my old ones. I stop using them when a large chunk of wood comes off of the stick, the tip is too misshapen to sound good, or the stick just breaks altogether.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:39 PM
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:45 PM
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I save mine in a bucket in the garage and use them for garden stakes, paint stirrers, whatever.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:55 PM
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I retire my sticks...often way to early.
It's one of my weaknesses. I almost always order to many pairs (Vic Firth extreme 5A & Pro-mark 808L) because I think it's impossible to have to many pairs.

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I do it anyway. :-((

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Old 07-05-2008, 10:09 PM
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i wait till they snap in half completely before i retire em.
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Old 07-05-2008, 10:13 PM
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yes...i retire them...

after i break them...

its a 4 step process man...
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Old 07-06-2008, 08:35 AM
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I dont retire them. I get a little annoyed when the nylon tip breaks off a pair of barely used sticks. So I just put them aside for some reason, its also why I went back to Aheads...
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:09 PM
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i retire them when they become too thin at the shoulder and the flex starts to eat up my rebound. or when the wood has become too soft from beatings that i dont get good articulation when i shoulder the bell on my ride.
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:03 AM
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Oh Yes, I have my snare as flat as damit, so i rim shot every crack of the snare. As a result, the middle if the stick fray's and splinters, this becomes a majour week point in the stick and i can realy feel it in the weight, performance and general playability in the stick . . also im quite a hard hitter so the tips split and chip rather fast. Now this is another factor . . . the tip sounds dead on the ride/hats ? I get through sticks like nobodys buisness . . Plenty of naff sticks goin if anyones interested lol
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:29 PM
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Oh yeah I'm like you haha. I have 2 pairs of Erskine's Ride Sticks but I will not move onto the second pair until my first have snapped. They're totally wrecked atm, but I shall not move on!

In my whole 11 years of playing, I have snapped only ONE stick, and that was thinner than a 7A. Which is why I only retire sticks when I want a new feel or sound, but at the same time when they're very often too damaged to play.

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Old 07-08-2008, 08:45 PM
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my old sticks are presented to my dogs, they have fun with it... drummerdogs
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:02 AM
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I was so proud when I broke my first stick (Vic Firth Dave Weckl) now it is quite frustrating when even the tips get nicked on any of my sticks. I have a zero tolerance policy on damaged tips. If I wanted a sound different than the original tip, then I wouldn't have painstakingly picked out the stick with that tip! Once the tip is damaged the stick is relegated to fodder for the kids to play with. Damaged tips can chip the coating on my heads. To quote Cobra Commander, "Unaccssssseptabillle!"

Damage to the shaft is a little more tolerable. I'll hang on to those until they flake splinters on to my heads. But I love shopping for sticks, so broken sticks are sometimes welcome.
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:24 AM
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I was so proud when I broke my first stick (Vic Firth Dave Weckl) now it is quite frustrating when even the tips get nicked on any of my sticks. I have a zero tolerance policy on damaged tips. If I wanted a sound different than the original tip, then I wouldn't have painstakingly picked out the stick with that tip! Once the tip is damaged the stick is relegated to fodder for the kids to play with. Damaged tips can chip the coating on my heads. To quote Cobra Commander, "Unaccssssseptabillle!"

Damage to the shaft is a little more tolerable. I'll hang on to those until they flake splinters on to my heads. But I love shopping for sticks, so broken sticks are sometimes welcome.
Wow, you broke a DW Vic Firth!!! I've been trying to break mine for a year and a half now..
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:47 AM
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Hey, send 'em to me.

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You know, I was going to go there, but I didn't. And then you did. Secretly, I'm glad you did.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:11 AM
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As a matter of fact no I wait till they are totally smashed.

I haven't bought a stick for a year or so .

By the way aydee those Dave Weckl's sticks are great, almost unbreakable.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:39 AM
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It seems like you don't play hard and don't play rough music. I used plain maple sticks and broke a pear every week or two... But since I bought Vater 5A recording hickory sticks they just won't break. They wear off some, but don't break. But I'll probably just throw them out if they break!
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:40 PM
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No I play some light stuff but I play some pretty rough too I mostly play funk, rock and some metal, also I think my self as a medium to slightly heavy hitter.

3 years ago when I was a newbie, I used to hit the rims of the toms by mistake when I was doing fills and that was the fatality of my sticks. But now I've become better with better technique and better aim ;p..So a breakage of a stick would be after a very long time including lots of rimshots(which I'm using almost always) and from the cymbal hitting.
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:54 PM
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yes i definitely retire my sticks when they are getting old and worn, but I don't throw them out. They are usually still fine for practicing on a drum pad at home, just no good for performances. Unless the tip is damaged or they are split in half, i see no reason to throw em away.

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Old 07-11-2008, 01:57 PM
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I Just wait for them to get ++++ed basically. I just don't like having to shell out 8 on a new pair of sticks. So much so in fact that i've started using 2BS 'cos they're bigger and they lasted me a hell of a lot longer then my nylon tipped 7As. I see everyone is saying how old and worn ones don't sound very good. Is that true? I didn't really notice.
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I see everyone is saying how old and worn ones don't sound very good. Is that true? I didn't really notice.
I am fond of round beads and barrell beads. In my experience, if the tip chips away it leaves a flat spot that is noticable on occasional cymbal hits (mainly ride). It may be minor, but I deem it a good reason to get more wood!
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I am fond of round beads and barrell beads. In my experience, if the tip chips away it leaves a flat spot that is noticale on occasional cymbal hits (mainly ride). It may be minor, but I deem it a good reason to get more wood!
Yep, same here. I just picked up 2 pairs of VF david garibaldi sig's cause my last set were being eaten away at the tips and didn't give enough definition from the cymbals.
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Old 07-14-2008, 08:02 PM
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It depends. Sometimes a stick will just break or crack or split to the point of it being not useful.

Then there are those other sticks you have, seemingly indestructable. They have a big chunk eaten out where you've been playing on your hat and cymbals, but they are still useful.

Trouble with these sticks is they feel differently to me and they also sound different, bringing a much less defined sound. So Ill 'retire' them...or for better term toss em in the trash.

I have one pair of sticks that are 'retired', in that they could be played, they are still in good shape. They are a pair of 5B Regaltips from the first live gig I ever did, circa 1992.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:55 PM
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When they break, I throw them out.
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Old 07-14-2008, 11:08 PM
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At times some of my Jazz size or 7A sticks with small tips get soft or spongy and no ride cymbal rebound so they get retired. I'm looking for a plastic or nylon prosthesis that I can slip over the worn tip and make them usable again. Off to the garage. See you soon.
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Wow, you broke a DW Vic Firth!!! I've been trying to break mine for a year and a half now..
Yeah...no joke buddy. You recommended these sticks to me about 6 mo. ago and I've been using them ever since...

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Old 07-18-2008, 11:36 PM
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I retire them after the tip chips. Very rarely do I actually break a stick. After this I save them for firewood for camping.
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:33 AM
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I play em til my carpet, bass drum, and heads are covered with sawdust... but like caddywumpus, I retire my sticks after they split. Sometimes I get so used to the banged up 5A (it basically becomes a splintery 7A) that when I get a brand new 5A, "holy shit why is this so damn heavy?"
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:25 PM
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Yeah, there's a point where they become spongy from rimshotting on the backbeat and on rolls. They loose rigidity and actually loose tone. (try a fresh one next to a spongy old one on a ride, there's a substantial difference)

They get to that point way before they break, at least for me.

I save them and use them at rehearsal where I don't worry about tone so much, we're just there to work, not perform.
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:36 AM
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I get rid of them once they begin to have a slight crack and the rebound begins to feel unnatural....but i havent cracked a pair in a long time so i havent retired any of my sticks in a long time...
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Yeah, there's a point where they become spongy from rimshotting on the backbeat and on rolls. They loose rigidity and actually loose tone. (try a fresh one next to a spongy old one on a ride, there's a substantial difference)

They get to that point way before they break, at least for me.

I save them and use them at rehearsal where I don't worry about tone so much, we're just there to work, not perform.
i agree. when they become spongy they tend to change the tone. i never have cracked a pair so i only retire my sticks when they become spongy. i also use 2-3 fresh pairs on my electronic set and never ever use the worn off pairs on it. could easily destroy the pads.

when i rehearse i don't care about spongy sticks a tall, but if the tip or the neck has splinters i try not to use that pair for the health of the heads.
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Old 08-13-2008, 04:43 PM
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and did i mention i like to collect the worn off/retired ones. :)
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Old 08-13-2008, 04:57 PM
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I throw worn sticks away, but I only consider them to be worn out when the tip has splintered to a degree where the stick sounds different at each area of the tip. Or the shoulder has to be about to break. But I never break sticks, you don't have to hit your drums so hard as to break your sticks in order to play loud.
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