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Old 02-04-2006, 08:46 PM
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I'm pretty sure Weckl can play pop music in his sleep. He chooses not too is all. His beginner books are chock full of easy beats and simple straight forward pop/rock beats.

Gadd has been on several #1 albums, but most people here in DW weren't even born yet ;-)

Matt Chamberlain has been on a couple for sure...the John Mayer cds and the Sara Evans cds.

sidenote: am I the only drummer on DW that has any working knowledge what-so-ever of Country music? There are a ton of really good session drummers in this genre, but nobody talks about it!

And for the guy asking if there was Funk Rock drumming before Chad Smith, I would point him to the 70s. Hardly a pioneer in funk rock, but definitely a pioneer in the funk/rap/rock style of RHCP!
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Old 02-04-2006, 10:23 PM
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I'm pretty sure Weckl can play pop music in his sleep. He chooses not too is all. His beginner books are chock full of easy beats and simple straight forward pop/rock beats.

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And for the guy asking if there was Funk Rock drumming before Chad Smith, I would point him to the 70s. Hardly a pioneer in funk rock, but definitely a pioneer in the funk/rap/rock style of RHCP!
well, to be sure weckl can play any pattern at all that you would use in a pop context, there's no doubt about that. but he doesn't have the feel for the style as well as some other guys out there. he's gone out for some big gigs (sting) and i've heard he's said that it's a goal of his to be on a major pop record at some point - but other guys like vinnie, steve, abe, etc. keep getting the jobs over him. not to diminish his contributions to music and to drumming by any degree.


i'd missed that post about the funk rock drumming... that's a little worrisome to see actually haha. yeah, chad smith is a great drummer, to be sure, but hardly a pioneer of the instrument or style.

though you can't deny his influence over the shape of the band. obviously having half of the band replaced between albums will have an effect on the music, but i think chad smith and john frusciante brought something far more positive to the band than other replacements have for other groups. they didn't try to imitate jack irons and hillel slovak, but brought something fresh to the peppers.

while john's contributions are more immediately noticable (his style is such a sharp contrast to hillel's), chad had an equally powerful influence. the chili peppers remained true to their niche with mother's milk and blood sugar sex magik, but were able to refine it over the course of those two albums to the masterpiece that is BSSM. that is a considerable achievement, especially in the wake of such a tragedy and the drug addiction of anthony, hillel, flea, and of course john later.

chad seemed to really connect with flea in a way jack irons hadn't previously been able to. the two of them are a powerhouse rhythm section combination. i think chad's style coupled with flea's insane ideas really brought something new to the band.


i was so close to having a coherent train of thought in that post haha. maybe next time.
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:10 AM
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I think this is a good way to praise Chad:

If you want to be a well-rounded drummer and appreciate lots of different types of music, I would definitely suggest that all drummers have a copy of Blood Sugar Sex Magik in their libraries. I wouldn't say it is the BEST drumming by Smith, but it is the most defining example of that genre (or sub-genre we could say).

(too go along with my previous country music comment), why don't people have a broader taste in music? (This seems especially difficult for drummers). I have country/jazz/metal/R&B/Classic Rock/Alternative Rock (i.e. anything from 90 'til today), you name it. I really don't care for punk, emo and rap, but I still have some..at a minium to understand the musical aspects of that style.

Country music really seems to get the short end of the stick with drummers, yet Nashville session musicians are considered some of the best guys out there.

When I was in highschool (2 decades ago) I was in a Dixie band and a Rush cover band at the same time!
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Old 02-06-2006, 12:08 AM
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well, for session drummers, it's just a different thing altogether. how many top 40 albums has abe laboriel jr been on? vinnie? matt chamberlain? gadd? etc. etc
i see your point an it is good....but i presume Gadd has been at least a number of top 40 albums?i mean hes recorded with hundreds of artists....?
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Old 02-16-2006, 12:51 PM
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As this being my first post in this forum, i might aswell make it in thread about my fav drummer, Chad is no-way the best thechnical drummer in the world, but his feel and groove more than make up for this, another thing that has been overlooked in this thread is his incredible stage presence, he doesnt have to use a ridiculous siamese monster kit to get noticed, and he is always smiling and sometimes even points to people in the crowd mid-song while playing on his ride, check out the off the map video.
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Old 02-19-2006, 02:20 AM
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I have recently bought and watched Dave Weckl's How to Develop Technique, and Chad's Red Hot Chilli Method.

Both have inspired me and scared me, but you cannot compare these two drummers. I think it is all down to taste and style.

I connect way better with Chad Smith because I think he is more my style of drumming(He's obviously way better!). I could see myself actually nailing some of his grooves.

After watching Daves I almost want to forget the drums and learn them again. He has an amazing technique which seems effortless. It scares me the hours it would take to get anywhere near him.

A good balance from watching them both though. Time to re-analyse my kit setup, focus my practise and keep on trying to play what is right for the band!
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Old 02-24-2006, 03:49 PM
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Slightly off of Chad's drumming for a sec...

If you wanted to go out drinking and carousing (if that's your thing), would you rather do it with Chad, or another drummer...say Weckl or Peart? I don't even know if the latter do that anymore (or ever did). For my bar tab, Chad would have to be right up there.



...So long as he kept his tube sock on.
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:28 PM
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Chad and Ian Pace are great grooving drummers but sometimes I think when they are together they clown around to much
It can become a little annoying to me
Other drummers probably love it but I take drums a little more serious than that
It's just me and how I feel
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:10 AM
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Chad and Ian Pace are great grooving drummers but sometimes I think when they are together they clown around to much
It can become a little annoying to me
Other drummers probably love it but I take drums a little more serious than that
It's just me and how I feel
hmmmm...sheer coincidence: yesterday, my drumming teacher brought a copy of the Chad / Ian thing for the London Drum Company done back in 2004. Chad was def a bit over the top with the clowning around. He was also noticeably hung over, which probably had something to do with his jumpiness / edgy behavior (I once knew a man...heh, heh).

When he manages to hang onto his sticks, he can groove like a mutha.
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Old 03-24-2006, 11:10 AM
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Ok so ibe looked for the man and I cant find, so im gonna have to post.

Chad is one my favourite drummers for three resaons. The main reason he has the one of the fattests grooves ever, real hard and realy funky,

The second is that he has got the chops and I think he does'nt get recognised for that by "drummers" as much as he should.

And the third is he just cool as, and he rides a harley. Thats just cool in my opinion.
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Old 03-24-2006, 02:41 PM
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Yes... He really grooves fine.
And another good thing! He's not going around pretending to be the best drummer in the world.
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Old 03-24-2006, 05:07 PM
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totally agree..though i love weckl,peart, vinnie and all the other geniuses,im a huge fan of chad..nothing too flashy..great feel..does his job perfectly and really looks like he is in the zone...just watching him play is infectious and having watched his video,he seems a great guy too..huge personality...top man!!!
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MD fest 2005 he really does wear that beat thin
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Old 03-26-2006, 04:44 AM
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woooo!
stadium arcadium coming soon
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Old 03-26-2006, 12:06 PM
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woooo!
stadium arcadium coming soon
cant`t wait for the album.. :)
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Old 03-26-2006, 12:17 PM
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And me, it'll be great. Well, i hope it will.
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Old 03-26-2006, 02:34 PM
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Chad is for me awesome drummer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Overplaying don't make a good drummer
Speed don't make a good drummer
Good drummer makes playing from the heart, and playing for the song!
Watch him live and you will see what I mean!! (Live from Slane Castle, Off the Map)
For me he is like BONZO, SORUM, PAICE, COZY POWELL but in different musical situation
Maybe I'm wrong but I worship that "heart" drummers
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:43 PM
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Chad is the reason I play drums now. His grooves are incredibly tasteful and funky. He never over plays and he really gets into it live. For a clinic that my shop held Chad and a local bass player from a previous performance decided to have a jam session. That was one of the koolest things to watch. He's a pretty sick soloist too. Killer chops
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:55 PM
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I saw thar MD DVD
Chad and Ian Pace goof around to much
They do more talking than playing
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:06 AM
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I got a profile just to reply to this forum... because Chad is a sick drummer!
No other drummer lays it down like Chad and no other drummer can play the funky punk rock like chad can. He's doing his job and he's doing awesome with beats to prove it. Don't tell me that you have never heard a RHCP lick where all of a sudden you said to yourself
"What a sweet beat". He may not be Weckl, Rich, or Bonzo... but he is still a kick a** drumming machine.

Oh yeah,

Californication and By the Way are great albums wothout an argument!
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:48 AM
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I saw thar MD DVD
Chad and Ian Pace goof around to much
They do more talking than playing
pretty true. but when they do play its pretty rad. but for chads solo he just plays a straight groove. nothing fancy or anything at all.
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Old 03-27-2006, 02:19 PM
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but for chads solo he just plays a straight groove. nothing fancy or anything at all.
The question is: Is it needed?
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:02 PM
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pretty true. but when they do play its pretty rad. but for chads solo he just plays a straight groove. nothing fancy or anything at all.
thats whats great about it. He doesnt have to overplay to be great. even his simple stuff blows you away. thats what makes him what he is. He always fits the music. and is always right on top. very tight, and you could set a clock by him. Excellent drummer with lots of taste. One of my personal favourites.
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:58 PM
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His studio work is very impressive. Good groove player, very locked in with Flea's licks. His snare work on the song "Californication" is very tasty, and I can never listen to "Breaking the girl" only once.

I was somewhat disappointed with a live performance I saw a few years ago, though. Sound was very bad, which may not have been their fault. But worst, their playin' wasn't very tight. I've seen other good comments elsewhere about their shows, it may only have been a bad night. I kept wondering however, how big a factor is pro-tool on their recordings.
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:20 PM
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I kept wondering however, how big a factor is pro-tool on their recordings.
I don't think there was much of that in the old records, and he's still amazing...
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:21 PM
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I was so glad to see a post about Chad Smith. He is one of my favorite drummers. Okay maybe he's not a Bonham or a Powell in rock, or a Garibaldi in funk, but he's got that flow, and grooviness when he plays that just makes him so great.. I have his his DVD "Red Hot Rythm Method" and its absolutely hillarious, but also contains pretty sick drumming. He's got style when he plays, and it shows in the diversity of beats.

And aslo like someone mentioned, try his signature snare... I wanna second the fact that it's super cheap, but very cutting edge sound, and great punch... has a wide range of tuning too.. I dont think i'll be changing snares for a while...
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:50 PM
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And aslo like someone mentioned, try his signature snare... I wanna second the fact that it's super cheap, but very cutting edge sound, and great punch... has a wide range of tuning too.. I dont think i'll be changing snares for a while...
Yes... His snare works pretty good for me too. Specially in studio.
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Chad is an extraodinary drummer, very deep in the pocket grooves fit the basslines oh so well. He knows how to set the the mood and play for the music without being totally flashy. When he plays live its a bit of a different story but on all of the albums hes very in in the pocket and his use of ghost notes are just incredible!
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Old 04-09-2006, 03:36 PM
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the by the way album is really terribly boring in drumming aspects, a drum machine could have done that as well...why do you say this cleanness was missing in the old days? he has always been tight and professional and clean but in the old days it was more creative and groovy
Chad Smith is a best rock drummer in action current . He Have solid Grooves and your creative style is inspiration for drummers like me . Not forget : pocket is necessary too , and By the Way disc is a lesson of it .
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Old 04-09-2006, 05:49 PM
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I saw the modern drummer festival yesterday, when he's playing with Ian Paice... Not much show off, but who needs it when you groove like he does?
"A lot of drumming tonight (...) but how do you get a job? You gotta groove!!!" Very smart.
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Old 04-09-2006, 10:00 PM
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"I saw the modern drummer festival yesterday, when he's playing with Ian Paice... Not much show off" (the quote button wasn't working)

He has a very inidvidual approach to drumming, which works great with his funk genre. But that duet with Ian Paice that Wile E. Coyote sums him up, he could probably have broken out into millions of things but because he is a mature drummer he knows he doesn't have to do that to make himself look good. I feel he is a very big brick in the wall of drumming.
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Old 04-10-2006, 01:25 PM
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"I saw the modern drummer festival yesterday, when he's playing with Ian Paice... Not much show off" (the quote button wasn't working)

He has a very inidvidual approach to drumming, which works great with his funk genre. But that duet with Ian Paice that Wile E. Coyote sums him up, he could probably have broken out into millions of things but because he is a mature drummer he knows he doesn't have to do that to make himself look good. I feel he is a very big brick in the wall of drumming.
I totally agree... didn't I mean that? It's maybe my bad english...
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Old 04-15-2006, 03:54 AM
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Chad Smith= AMAZING! I really can't say much more than anyone else. The reason I like him is that he has really tight, funky grooves. He doesn't play to prove that he is a technical genius, but just grooves it out.
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Old 04-16-2006, 06:51 AM
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He's in Guiness for playing the biggest drumset, anyone ever seen this in a pic maybe? I'd like to see it if there are pics.
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Old 04-16-2006, 07:56 AM
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He's in there for playing a 308 piece kit. How I envy him................
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Old 04-17-2006, 01:44 AM
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What does you all think of "Dani California"?I think its so so much better than anythin on By The Way.....

Stadium Arcadium should be good....I hope they get back to their funky form...
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Old 04-17-2006, 01:58 AM
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What does you all think of "Dani California"?I think its so so much better than anythin on By The Way.....

Stadium Arcadium should be good....I hope they get back to their funky form...
I agree, I hope it's the perfect amount of funk and rock. Not just rock, but I agree with being better than By The Way, but that wasn't really my favorite album. Compared to californication though, i'm not to sure.
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:30 AM
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im not into his playing

there is a difference between playing what the song needs and being utterly forgetable. thats the way i feel towards him. its more like a robot playing for alot of thier songs. ive seen live solo footage and some jam footage and was like "where the hell did that come from!!", i was very impressed. so i think he showed too much restraint during songs, too much for my liking. after one hot minute i stopped listening altogether. blood sugar sex magic and mothers milk are the good releases, everything else, ill pass

on a sidenote John frusiante' older solo stuff is amazing, first 2 albums
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:44 AM
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oh man i totally agree with some stuff you say...Mothers Milk and the RHCP old stuff is definitly their better stuff...I love playing all their old funk..."Stone Cold Bush","Brothers Cup"...etc.etc....

But I disagree totally what you say about the "robotic playing"??Chad Smith, if anything is not a "robtic" player....they guy is so funky...hed even be what some people consider an extremley messy drummer...I mean, he may constrain himself recording songs...but i can see hwere hes coming from..

I laid down loads of technical an crazy beats for my bands up-an-coming demo,and now ive suddenly realised how messy it will all sound recorded...it will sound nice an funky an cool live an stuff...but recording it will be a total gip!!

i think thats where hes coming from...Ill admit the chilis newer stuff(excluding the new song) have been totally toned down in comparison to their greatest stuff....but teh band got a bit more chilled out...i think they calmed down...

I mean Chad live nowadays is definitly not what he used once be!!hes still a brilliant drummer but hes not rolling around on his kit rippin cymbals apart...haha....yes their old stuff was the best,their new stuff is toned down a lot more than their early funk, doesnt mean Chad has become robotic???
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Old 04-17-2006, 04:55 AM
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im not into his playing

there is a difference between playing what the song needs and being utterly forgetable. thats the way i feel towards him. its more like a robot playing for alot of thier songs. ive seen live solo footage and some jam footage and was like "where the hell did that come from!!", i was very impressed. so i think he showed too much restraint during songs, too much for my liking. after one hot minute i stopped listening altogether. blood sugar sex magic and mothers milk are the good releases, everything else, ill pass

on a sidenote John frusiante' older solo stuff is amazing, first 2 albums
He's just holding the beat, thats the drummers job. He's not supposed to be friggin all kicking drum ass and be sticking out. He's accenting the bass and playin funk.
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