DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > Your Place > Your Gear

Your Gear Show your Gear - Pictures - Descriptions

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 04-22-2008, 12:03 AM
Michael G's Avatar
Michael G Michael G is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunbury, PA
Posts: 956
Default What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Before:



With some "minor" alterations it becomes:







Sorry for the picture quality, but they are the same thing believe it or not. I made a replica Slingerland Radio King drum (8 Lugs) with all OEM Slingerland parts, and the coveted 3 point strainer. Don't worry, this drum isn't intended to fool anyone.

As far as matching up to a real Radio King sound wise, it is very close. The tone is there, the only thing is that mine is not as "warm and mellow" sounding, because the maple is quite new. Once the maple ages, the sound will warm, mellow, and fatten.

I'll get around to good quality pictures soon so you can see the true beauty that is the fresh White pearl finish.

Last edited by Michael G; 05-10-2008 at 09:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-22-2008, 12:07 AM
Ironcobra's Avatar
Ironcobra Ironcobra is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 2,209
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

*clap clap clap clap*

Job well done, it looks fantastic. How many lugs?
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-22-2008, 12:36 AM
Maytridy's Avatar
Maytridy Maytridy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 236
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Wow, that's sweet! How much did it cost to put together?
__________________
My Latest Recording
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-22-2008, 01:50 AM
junglelord's Avatar
junglelord junglelord is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 482
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Cheers and Kudos to you....looks like 8 lugs, correct?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-22-2008, 01:50 AM
Michael G's Avatar
Michael G Michael G is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunbury, PA
Posts: 956
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maytridy View Post
Wow, that's sweet! How much did it cost to put together?
Hmm I actually never stopped and got an estimate, I think around $450. Which is MUCH less then a new Gibson Slingerland RK, which doesn't match in quality since the bearing edges are rounder and the snare beds are made to custom specs. But I got really lucky because I got SWEET deals on parts, especially the 3 pt strainer and brackets + COB stick saver hoops.

Another interesting note is Gibson Slingerland currently uses Vaughncraft as their provider for their RK shells, so its pretty much the real deal.

Oh and yes 8 lugs
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-22-2008, 04:19 AM
kung_f00's Avatar
kung_f00 kung_f00 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 528
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Just a question, not meant to be critical or anything.. I can understand the 3pt strainer, but why try to replicate the Radio King?
__________________
When in doubt, bring the funk...

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-22-2008, 04:45 AM
Michael G's Avatar
Michael G Michael G is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunbury, PA
Posts: 956
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by kung_f00 View Post
Just a question, not meant to be critical or anything.. I can understand the 3pt strainer, but why try to replicate the Radio King?
It's my favorite snare drum ever made in terms of sound, and even appearance, and I wanted to make my own brand new one (almost) that will age with me. The new ones made by Gibson Slingerland don't cut it for me.

It also is going to head off my eventual collection of actual vintage RK snare drums.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-22-2008, 04:49 AM
kung_f00's Avatar
kung_f00 kung_f00 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 528
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothJazz View Post
It's my favorite snare drum ever made in terms of sound, and even appearance, and I wanted to make my own brand new one (almost) that will age with me. The new ones made by Gibson Slingerland don't cut it for me.

It also is going to head off my eventual collection of actual vintage RK snare drums.
Hey, sounds fine by me! I was just curious .. very rarely have I seen guys try to reproduce old snares. Seems like quite the challenge!
__________________
When in doubt, bring the funk...

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-22-2008, 04:59 AM
Michael G's Avatar
Michael G Michael G is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunbury, PA
Posts: 956
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Nah it wasn't too bad, but I got alot of help from a great guy that had the hardest things to find, and snare bed and bearing edge measurements, so it worked out almost too easy.

Another thing in general for everyone else, I don't see the newer model Radio Kings as being very collectible in the future, I would be very surprised if one would ever sell for more then what they are currently at around $750, meaning the value will probably never go u unlike 60s and before models. That would technically be the only real incentive to buy a "legitimate" new one.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-22-2008, 05:09 AM
Deathmetalconga's Avatar
Deathmetalconga Deathmetalconga is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 7,221
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Wow, what a classy looking drum. It looks so traditional you wouldn't think it has the oldfangled steam-bent shell inside.
__________________
Ironwood kit Tiki kit Openhanders Vids
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-22-2008, 10:07 AM
katman's Avatar
katman katman is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 574
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

You really did a great job to recreate your favourite drum.

Personally it's not my preferred look - I'm not a fan of old-school pearl wraps or those lugs, and I think Vaughncraft shells are just too beautiful to cover. But I can fully understand why you did this and what you wanted to achieve. And I think there's no doubt you succeeded. Nice one.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-22-2008, 03:30 PM
gmrakich gmrakich is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,271
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

You made a 50 year old snare drum!!! Awesome!!!!
__________________
More Drums Than God.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-22-2008, 07:57 PM
Mendozart's Avatar
Mendozart Mendozart is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: So. Cal
Posts: 1,337
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Hey SJ,
Is this the project drum that was over at the vintagesnaredrums.com forum? I think it turned out great!
__________________
Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.

Jenkins-Martin, Blaemire, & Ludwig drums
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-22-2008, 09:20 PM
Michael G's Avatar
Michael G Michael G is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunbury, PA
Posts: 956
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendozart View Post
Hey SJ,
Is this the project drum that was over at the vintagesnaredrums.com forum? I think it turned out great!
Indeed it was. Don't you also have a replica drum? A black beauty I think it was?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-22-2008, 11:56 PM
Deathmetalconga's Avatar
Deathmetalconga Deathmetalconga is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 7,221
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by katman View Post
You really did a great job to recreate your favourite drum.

Personally it's not my preferred look - I'm not a fan of old-school pearl wraps or those lugs, and I think Vaughncraft shells are just too beautiful to cover. But I can fully understand why you did this and what you wanted to achieve. And I think there's no doubt you succeeded. Nice one.
I don't think a steambent shell would look any different than a ply shell from the outside. How could you tell?

I think it's great to see people treat steambent and stave shells like any other shell. I think it would be cool to see a wrapped stave shell. I'm sure that will happen someday as staves become more popular.
__________________
Ironwood kit Tiki kit Openhanders Vids
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-23-2008, 12:27 AM
stasz's Avatar
stasz stasz is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Illinois, US
Posts: 2,187
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Wow! You did a sweet job. If you had shown me the finished product alone, there's no way I would have guessed it was your own creation. Granted I haven't seen it in person and it probably looks much newer than old radio kings, but it looks fantastic. Your work most definitely paid off. Nice job!
__________________
"If you think you're more important than the drums, you've got another thing coming." -Tony Williams
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-23-2008, 07:37 AM
Mendozart's Avatar
Mendozart Mendozart is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: So. Cal
Posts: 1,337
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothJazz View Post
Indeed it was. Don't you also have a replica drum? A black beauty I think it was?
Yeah, that Black Beauty reproduction has been an awesome addition to my arsenal. I've always wanted a Radio King though. Wasn't Neil Peart's old "number one" an old Radio King?
__________________
Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.

Jenkins-Martin, Blaemire, & Ludwig drums
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-23-2008, 08:24 AM
katman's Avatar
katman katman is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 574
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathmetalconga View Post
I don't think a steambent shell would look any different than a ply shell from the outside. How could you tell?

I think it's great to see people treat steambent and stave shells like any other shell. I think it would be cool to see a wrapped stave shell. I'm sure that will happen someday as staves become more popular.
The craftsmanship on Vaughncraft shells is second to none. If you do a search under the name on the Ghostnote site you will see the quality of these shells and the respect the builders there have for them. Many of the shells are from more exotic wood like cocobolo and purpleheart, but even the "plain old maple" is a thing of beauty. The quality of the wood and the grain patterns are superior to most regular Keller ply shells. The inside of the shell, with its reinforcement ring as well as the bearing edges - where the thick single ply is visible - also speak of true craftsmanship. And I know this won't always be on display, but to me its all part of the art. To me, the beauty lies in the wood. But as I said, this was just my own personal preference and I think he's done an amazing job here in recreating a legendary drum. And I'm sure it sounds every bit as good as the original.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-24-2008, 07:22 PM
Deathmetalconga's Avatar
Deathmetalconga Deathmetalconga is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 7,221
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by katman View Post
The craftsmanship on Vaughncraft shells is second to none. If you do a search under the name on the Ghostnote site you will see the quality of these shells and the respect the builders there have for them. Many of the shells are from more exotic wood like cocobolo and purpleheart, but even the "plain old maple" is a thing of beauty. The quality of the wood and the grain patterns are superior to most regular Keller ply shells. The inside of the shell, with its reinforcement ring as well as the bearing edges - where the thick single ply is visible - also speak of true craftsmanship. And I know this won't always be on display, but to me its all part of the art. To me, the beauty lies in the wood. But as I said, this was just my own personal preference and I think he's done an amazing job here in recreating a legendary drum. And I'm sure it sounds every bit as good as the original.
Yes, it's clear Vaughcraft is a cut above, just in terms of quality, and then there are the exotic woods they use.

I wonder if there are limits on bending wood. I would like to check out a steambent ironwood drum, or even a ply ironwood drum, but I suspect the wood is too dense to shave into plies or steambend.
__________________
Ironwood kit Tiki kit Openhanders Vids
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-10-2008, 09:58 PM
Michael G's Avatar
Michael G Michael G is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunbury, PA
Posts: 956
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Updated picture quality, be amazed at the beauty.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 05-11-2008, 07:14 PM
dom's Avatar
dom dom is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hutchinson
Posts: 960
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

is it just me or do the lugs look a little off
__________________
www.ghostnote.net
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05-11-2008, 07:33 PM
ethanos ethanos is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Richmond Hill, On
Posts: 52
Default Re: What I did with a Solid Maple Shell from Vaughncraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by dom View Post
is it just me or do the lugs look a little off
Its not just you. The lug directly to the left of the slingerland badge looks way off. Cool idea nonetheless.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com