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Old 03-17-2008, 04:46 AM
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Hi ,
have been looking to buy a good all round ride cymbal, and was looking for some suggestions.Mainly for rock and blues...
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:59 AM
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For all around playing you'll need a cymbal that's fairly thin and light, has a good amount of crashability and wash with a nice stick definition and a good sounding bell. For the blues stuff you might want to go for a not-so-bright overall sound. Here are a few cymbals I've found to work very well from anything between bebop and rock.

- Meinl Byzance Thin ride
- Zildjian K Custom Dark ride
- Sabian HH Manhattan ride
- Sabian HH Stage ride
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:52 PM
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My Zildjian Cindy Blackman designed 22" K Dark Ride Medium is the most versatile cymbal I've ever owned.
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:27 PM
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If you can still find this one, I would recommend the Sabian Raw Dry Ride. This is not to be confused with Raw BELL Dry Ride. This particular cymbal I just picked up and has a great low fundamental tone to it. The fact that it isn't lathed adds a very high pitched ping to the stick sound so that it's heard over the undertones. The bell sounds great and it's crashable to boot. Hope this helps.
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:57 PM
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This is the ride I always say for these all round rides but for rock and blues (and nearly everything else) it's perfect! Try Paiste 2002 ride. Prob 22" altho size is personal. Nice ping but because it has amazing wash it's perfectly balenced. Crashes amazingly well and is loud when you want it to be loud and quiet when you need it to be. Great cymbal! Go on the Paiste website their soundfiles are spot on.
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:19 PM
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Zildjian 21' Sweet Ride...Its a safe buy. Not too thin, not too heavy, not too dry, not too washy, not too piercing, crashes well. Any one disagree?
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:39 PM
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Well, other than the Yamaha R1, 998cc, liquid-cooled, short-stroke, 20-valve, in-line four-cylinder engine motorcycle designed to make 180 horsepower power at a stratospheric 12,500 rpm, I would say the best all round ride is the Zildjian K Custom Dark. Of the ones I think I'll loke but havent played, pprobably the Istanbul Lenny White 21"
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:23 PM
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I recently just played a Sabian HHX stage ride (yes Stage!) at a jazz concert and it actually played pretty well, and it sounds like it could be used for a variety of styles
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:39 PM
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GREAT TIMING!

I have the cymbal for you (maybe)

20" Paiste Traditional MEDIUM HEAVY

Perfect condition, about 2400 grams

Its THE perfect workhorse cymbal....

You can hear one at cymbalsonly.com I think....that one is a little lighter by 200 grams...

or check out the Paiste.com website

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Old 03-17-2008, 09:42 PM
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I would recommend the 21" Sabian Signature Universal Ride (Ed Shaughnessy) if you were going to own only one ride. It is named Universal b/c it is pretty damn close to being universal. I nearly picked one up myself, but I currently own a 21" AA Rock Ride (very bright and pingy with a monster bell) and went with a 20" HHX Stage because I was blown away by its sound (very nice definition and lots of great wash and warm tone). Between the two, I now have my spectrum of music covered.

Hope this helps; and ALWAYS play before you pay!!
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Hey all,
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Zildjian rock 21 ride cuts through the band very well sounds good out front live and in the studio
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Zildjian 21' Sweet Ride...Its a safe buy. Not too thin, not too heavy, not too dry, not too washy, not too piercing, crashes well. Any one disagree?

That's just what I was going to suggest.
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:18 PM
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...The perfect ride is like the prefect woman in that neither of these mythical creatures exist.

Thank God for variety.

My favorite rides are my 20" Manhattan, 20" el sabor, and my 21" Wil Calhoun.

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Old 03-19-2008, 08:57 PM
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Zildjian 24" K Light Ride
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:03 PM
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...The perfect ride is like the prefect woman in that neither of these mythical creatures exist.
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Zildjian 21' Sweet Ride...Its a safe buy. Not too thin, not too heavy, not too dry, not too washy, not too piercing, crashes well. Any one disagree?
Agreed. It would be my default choice if I was in the market for an all-purpose ride. It has built its reputation around its versatility.
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:45 PM
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Make is personel preference, but you probably need a medium heavy for Rock and Blues, in the 20 inch range.
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I too am looking for the mythical creature - the perfect ride. I'm in the market for a lighter, more mellow alternative to my Sabian HH Raw Bell Dry Ride. I love the RBDR, but I don't need the weight/power/lack of wash at every gig. Sometimes it's just too much. I mostly play classic rock/jam band with some funk thrown in.

Consideratiions:

Sabian HHX Groove Ride
Zildjian K Custom Hybrid Ride
Paiste Traditional Ride - Med Light

Any suggestions of models from other brands? Meinl, UFiP, Saluda, Bosphorus?

Sorry to hijack this thread - I'll post a new one if concensus says do it.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:56 AM
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My Zildjian Cindy Blackman designed 22" K Dark Ride Medium is the most versatile cymbal I've ever owned.
Another vote for this cymbal. Nice spread,good stick definition and crashes really well.
It has a good bell to boot.

( no, I don't own one of these myself...yet )
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Old 05-10-2008, 03:55 AM
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Hi ,
have been looking to buy a good all round ride cymbal, and was looking for some suggestions.Mainly for rock and blues...
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K Custom Hybrid 20"

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RIght now,

I find that my 20" K Heavy Ride is pretty good. It has many of the good qualities of the A Zildjian Ping Ride without the brightness of the Ping ride which I find personally distasteful.


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20" Zildjian K Ride or 21" Sabian HH Raw Bell Dry Ride
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:01 PM
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Heavier Istanbul Agop SE Jazz Ride or Agop green label Signature ride in 21" or 22" sizes will sound great in a very wide mix of musical situations.
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:59 AM
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RIght now,

I find that my 20" K Heavy Ride is pretty good. It has many of the good qualities of the A Zildjian Ping Ride without the brightness of the Ping ride which I find personally distasteful.


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Mike,

I've been using just that ride for years for blues and rock, and it is great. But lately, I've been daydreaming about other rides - actually I'm thinking of cheating on my K Heavy, I want a little lighter feel, and a bit more wash. But it's a good cymbal, and I do feel guilty about it - locally I've seen a K Custom Dark and a Sweet Ride available used, so i just may go for one of those....
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:14 AM
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My picks are...

24" K Light Ride--
My favorite ride. It has tons of sweet spots and I can get the driest pings as well as overwhelming trashy wash, and everything in between. It can sound like an old K (well, close), a ping ride, a giant beat...it's the all-in-one cymbal. Plus, it's wonderfully crashable and the bell is cutting without being harsh.

20" HHX Stage Ride--
My favorite before I got the K Light. I used this for jazz, latin, rock, funk, and blues gigs, and it worked incredibly well for all of them. Nice pings and clicks, with a dark cushion of wash that's easily controlled.

21" Zildjian Sweet Ride--
Played on one once that I really liked. Had a "glassy" and almost "airy" character to it, but with a solid body and a defined ping.
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:50 PM
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Best all around ride? Hmmm... I have used a Zildjian 'A' 21 sweet ride for quite a while now and have been very pleased. Some say the bell doesn't cut enough but with a pair of 747 rock sticks, it cuts fine for me. Zildjian 'K' rides are also at the top of my list. very versatile.
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Zildjian K Custom Hybrid Ride!
I own one and it is truly THE MOST versatile cymbal ever created!
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:12 AM
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Wow, lots of love for the K Custom Hybrid. I think I'll go ahead and fourth (fifth?) that one. Very crashable, cuts through without being pingy, has a nice, subtle, clean wash, and a great bell. I think the only thing I would never use it for is jazz.

I also agree with the 24" K Light. All that surface area means a lot of different sweet spots for different sounds, although I don't really like how sticks with big fat tips (like my pro mark 5Bs) sound on it.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:03 PM
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For an all around ride:

20" Zildjian A med or
21" Zildjian A sweet ride

Try both and see what you like. The sweet ride is more washy and subtle. The med ride has a more distinct ping but can still work for jazz.

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