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Old 03-07-2008, 01:01 PM
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anyway ive heard of people playing on drums without resonant heads on the toms. I was just wondering what the purpose of this would be and what applications this could be used for?..
Any info would be much appreciated...
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Old 03-07-2008, 02:03 PM
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Well, reso heads are called reso heads because they allow the drum to resonate so I would think it would make the drum rather dead sounding without them....a la 70's rock sound.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:33 PM
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Reso's really tame the sound of your drum, in a good way in my opinion but to each his own; Phil Collins has played without resonant heads for a long time. The drums sound more agressive that way.
And they're somewhat easier to tune (getting the right tension balance between batter and reso is the trickiest part in my experience).
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Old 03-07-2008, 06:05 PM
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I'm not fond of the sound, and I absolutely cringe when I see folks playing nice drums without the resonant head: Fare thee well, ye naked bearing edges...

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Old 03-07-2008, 09:40 PM
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Most of the most popular songs ever recorded were on sets with single-headed toms. Sound engineers prefer a single has as it's easier to mike and otherwise control the sound. Single-headed drums are also much easier to tune.
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Old 03-08-2008, 12:16 AM
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Imo a drum without a reso head isnt a drum...the purpose of a drum is to create a resonating sound....and i too cringe when i see nice drums with no reso heads...u just dont get a good sound out of it....when i see a drummers set without reso heads i usually cant take them seriously...
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Old 03-08-2008, 12:27 AM
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thanks for all the info guyz....
what about for practice when you want less sound....will the toms without resos be more quiet?
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Imo a drum without a reso head isnt a drum...the purpose of a drum is to create a resonating sound....and i too cringe when i see nice drums with no reso heads...u just dont get a good sound out of it....when i see a drummers set without reso heads i usually cant take them seriously...
You might be surprised to know people have been making and playing single-headed drums for thousands of years. Some designs (clay pot-type shells, wooden & metal bowl-type shells, shells made of human skulls, etc.) do not even allow for a bottom head. The Western trap set is a very new invention, barely 100 years old.

Hal Blaine, who recorded thousands of songs and hundreds of the most popular hits of the '60s an '70s, did it all on single-headed kits. It wouldn't surprise me if the average person has heard single-headed kits than double-headed kits in their lifetime (although they would have no idea of the difference), given the fact that many studios use single-headed kits.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:03 AM
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hi
first post...yay!!...
anyway ive heard of people playing on drums without resonant heads on the toms. I was just wondering what the purpose of this would be and what applications this could be used for?..
Any info would be much appreciated...
The sound is going to be a much less round sound and more of a pointed sound. Also, the resonant side head does muffle the drum sound somewhat, therefore "concert" toms are a little louder. If you like the sound great; I personally have never cared for it myself.



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We used them back in the 70s with heavy dampening and direct miked each drum from the bottom. it was a killer sound for large sytems but they sounded like crap on there own
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We used them back in the 70s with heavy dampening and direct miked each drum from the bottom. it was a killer sound for large sytems but they sounded like crap on there own
That seems basically like an early form of triggering!
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Makes it alot louder. My friend use to not use resonating heads, made his drums loud as hell.
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That seems basically like an early form of triggering!

Aside from the fact that the sound from the PA is from an actual drum, yes. And as I said earlier, it is a sound that I have never really cared for. This was the rage because this before the noise gate was invented and the engineers only wanted a whap sound to put gobs of reverb on and call it "good." So, yes, I can see how you would call it an early for of triggering - no variables, no tone, no craft.
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