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Old 02-19-2008, 10:50 PM
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OK, so I'm sure some of you have been wondering what project has the old coot Gruntersdad been working on lately. Well of course its another stick grip project. But this one is dirt cheap and causes no mess or foul smells. I noticed in my last project that when taking off some of the blue Plasti-Coat product that it reminded me of a rubber balloon. Well today I figured rather than pay 8 dollars for another can of Plasti-Coat material, and waiting hours for it to dry, why not balloons. So into the local pharmacy I go to hunt down the balloons. Well 100 balloons, 100 sticks worth, cost me 1.99. I know call me crazy. "YOU'RE CRAZY.!" But hey they work. First, they can't be the round variety but the long ones, then inflate them once to stretch them out, then just roll the on, just like a, well... balloon. (small chuckle here). The photos below will attest to their being the ideal thing. Party On.
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:36 AM
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YOU'RE CRAZY, you old coot.

I have to say, I never got the ''fake'' stick grip-thing. Why not grip the wood?
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:40 AM
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At times the finish or clear coat on the sticks gets slippery when wet. I use to just sand off the finish, but like to fool around with other methods.
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Grunter, buddy...do we need to find you another hobby? :D

This is actually pretty cool...does it work well? Have you spent enough time w/ a pair like this to see if the balloon stays in place? I'm wondering if they'd get slippery when sweaty (that was Bon Jovi's first choice for the album name, BTW.)
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I actually just did this this afternoon, so no trial yet, but soon. I think the fact that they are rubber, actually says so on the package, they should not be slippery when sweaty.
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At times the finish or clear coat on the sticks gets slippery when wet. I use to just sand off the finish, but like to fool around with other methods.

I should try that.


I know first hand what happends when your hands gets sweaty...
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:51 AM
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There have been more than one thread or post on this forum about how tight to grip sticks etc. and the best advice is to grip them as loose as possible as long as you can control them and not drop them. Gripping tightly is not good technically or physically as one will find out when the hands and arms begin to ache. So if you have some sort of grip material, whether it be sprayed on, dipped, finish sanded off or the lovely balloons, squeezing the sap out of the sticks won't be necessary.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:03 PM
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OK kids. After a couple of days it has been determined that this method is inferior to the Plast-Dip product. A failure for the old coot. Back to the garage, I mean workshop.
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OK kids. After a couple of days it has been determined that this method is inferior to the Plast-Dip product. A failure for the old coot. Back to the garage, I mean workshop.
How was it inferior? Did the balloons break/wear away?

The main problem with plasti-dip is that it rubbed off. I am going to try that again by putting three or four layers of plasti-dip, instead of one.

I think you are on to something and it's good you're doing more research into it. I see a lot of commercial sticks that have plastic coating and it stays on - there must be some way to do that at home. Keep trying and we'll compare notes.
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Have you guys tried any of the wax products for sticks? I know I'd play lighter if my sticks would grip better...sanding them doesn't seem to help.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:27 PM
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How was it inferior? Did the balloons break/wear away?

The main problem with plasti-dip is that it rubbed off. I am going to try that again by putting three or four layers of plasti-dip, instead of one.

I think you are on to something and it's good you're doing more research into it. I see a lot of commercial sticks that have plastic coating and it stays on - there must be some way to do that at home. Keep trying and we'll compare notes.
The balloons didnt want to stay put. They kept rolling down from the open end. I think the key with the Plasti_dip may be to sand the stick lightly then wipe off before dipping. I think it may also be helpful to not have handled the sticks too much with body oils etc. Thanks for the encouragement DMC.
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:54 AM
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Darn - I thought condoms for drumsticks was going to be a real break-through!! Total Grip Protection!!

Keep Innovating!
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The balloons didnt want to stay put. They kept rolling down from the open end. I think the key with the Plasti_dip may be to sand the stick lightly then wipe off before dipping. I think it may also be helpful to not have handled the sticks too much with body oils etc. Thanks for the encouragement DMC.
I would try the balloons with some sort of adhesive on the stick, but that might dissolve the balloon material. Maybe coat with plasti-dip, then put the balloon on? The coating would keep the balloon for slipping off, while the balloon would hold up better to playing (maybe, but balloons are pretty fragile and I could see them wearing away at the fulcrum points).
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I think I will just go into seclusion and not come out until I have a proper, inexpensive, method, or until my beard reaches my feet.
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Well this is certainly interesting. I've never really had problems with slippery sticks except for the painted kind (i.e. Vic Firth Buddy Rich models) and sticks taped with electric tape (for marching band). I have used masking tape several times which works quite well and is easy to remove or replace. Medical tape (the cloth like kind) works the best but if played on the dents sort of begin permanently attaching it to the stick and its hard to get off later. I've tried a Zildjian Dip stick before and couldn't stand the stuff. Not enough freedom for me and then it started coming off which was fine. I vote for keeping it simple...tapes and whatnot if anything. The dip coating sounded promising though.
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I think I know what I'm going to buy the next time I'm in the pharmacy
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Hi Folks,
As a pro drum tech this has often been a problem and more so for some of the hard hittin metal bands ..... I like the balloon idea , im gonna try that ....
However my sollution for this is a piece of sand paper , tkae the varnish off the sticks around the grip area , this works 99% of the time for me . You could also use climbers chalk .. although this makes work for guys like me having to clean the hardware and hoover the drum carpet after the gig
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Old 02-24-2008, 12:43 AM
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http://stickstuffgrip.com/shop/produ...4572f707b94d15 check that stuff out.
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Interesting. Other than the fact that its twice what I paid for the Plasti-Dip product, I do like that it comes in clear. And I am confused as to how with a 6 inch can you can dip up to 6 to 6 1/2 inches up the stick??
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The can is 6" tall.
That leaves some room for tilting the stick in the can.
Which means you can cover more stick, because more of the stick is in the can.
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Understood. But that lasts for about 4 sticks as you use the product. Thats how I did mine to get the first few pairs high enough on the stick.

Also you can't tilt the can when its new and full or it will no longer be full. I am still searching for the perfect cylinder to pour the Plasti-Dip product into that is about half the diameter of the can the product comes in.
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This doesn't solve the problem for those playing traditional grip though as it doesn't go high enough....
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