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Old 02-04-2008, 01:44 AM
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Okay, here they are. I picked these up for $150. Included were:
' 67 5 x 14 Acrolite
' 71 9 x 13 tom
' 71 16 x 16 floor tom
' 71 14 x 22 bass drum
They were in pretty rough shape, it took me a solid week of stripping all the hardware and cleaning. The only pieces missing were the bass drum spurs, tom tone control, and six tension rods for the tom. They aren't perfect, 3 sets of holes drilled (filled extra holes with carriage bolts). I stripped and re-painted the bass drum hoops. The logo on the front head is just temporarily taped on , I'm picking up the correct size logo (1 1/2" x 8"). They are a little faded, I was going to re-wrap, but after cleaning them up they look pretty good. This is going to be a player's set anyway. Here's some before and after pics. Also, here's an attachment for some additional pics. Sorry about posting this again, I posted it in the wrong place before. http://www.flickr.com/photos/1898087...7605876303213/
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:49 AM
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Really ! All this for 150$

Why I cant find any deal like this :-(

Very nice and you did a great job cleaning them though.
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:51 AM
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Nice deal! No doubt they must sound fantastic... Post some sound clips!
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Nice refurbish job Mendo. They look great. Too bad about all of the holes but you did a good job filling them. Other than re-wrapping you covered them well.
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:53 AM
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cool drums! Although, I think the finish faded a little too much for audience approval. Ever plan on getting it refinished? Doing it in fresh silver sparkle will make it look amazing, plus it will up the value.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:22 AM
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cool drums! Although, I think the finish faded a little too much for audience approval. Ever plan on getting it refinished? Doing it in fresh silver sparkle will make it look amazing, plus it will up the value.
I'm going to play them for a bit before I make any hasty decisions. Alot of people have said they are actually worth more if it has the original wrap. If I find some add ons, I might think of re-wrapping. Personally, I don't give a crap about audience approval.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:22 AM
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wow you did a great job on the drums, they look great! Even better, they were at a great price.
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That rules!

What all did you do? Did you re-paint the hoops?

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Old 02-04-2008, 08:31 AM
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You've done a really spectacular job of renovating those drums. Great work. You seem to know your stuff.
Do you know what the holes on the top of the bass drums were for? I see a rail-mount that appears to be original.
Also, what are the shells made of, maple, or do you know?
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:26 AM
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Great find and a great job! All that elbow grease is paying off, big time.

Did you have to do much clean up on the Acro?

That kit looks so killer with the 6.5 Supra, too.

Classic tubs, man!

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Old 02-04-2008, 04:50 PM
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benadrian,
Yeah, I repainted the hoops. The guys over at GhostNote gave me some tips, it was my first refinishing job.

jay norem,
Apparently whoever owned these drums didn't know where they wanted the rail consolette, and it looks like they moved it around a few times. All the sets of holes are spaced the same. As far as the shells, I think they are maple / mahogany / maple. I'm sure LVDC will confirm for us. They have the clear interiors.

Colonel Bat Guano,
The Acro also had quite a bit of rust. I didn't get a chance to snap any before pics. The Supra sounds really good with this kit. And to think I almost sold it.

Overall I'm really happy with the sound of the drums. I'm going to pick-up a non-ported bass drum reso head so I can swap out when needed. I've got a couple Ludwig logos on the way, which are the correct size.
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:06 PM
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Absolutely stunning! Fantastic job you did.
Congrats on an awesome find. Wonderful piece of drum history.
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:28 PM
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Wow, those are beautiful! I actually like the way you pluged the holes. Looks cool. Congratulations.

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...very nice Mendozart.

I hope you get as much enjoyment out of playibg them as you probably did restoring them.

Very nice indeed.

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Old 02-04-2008, 05:59 PM
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...very nice Mendozart.

I hope you get as much enjoyment out of playibg them as you probably did restoring them.

Very nice indeed.

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It actually was pretty fun bringing them back to life, so to speak. I've definitely got the vintage bug now, lol.
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Wow Greg!

Great find and nice job cleaning those old tubs up. I used carriage bolts to patch holes on my old Ludwig kit too. :)

Really cool kit!
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:19 PM
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Nice score. What have you got for a bass batter and any muffling?

Any recordings in the near future?
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:49 PM
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Wow Greg!

Great find and nice job cleaning those old tubs up. I used carriage bolts to patch holes on my old Ludwig kit too. :)

Really cool kit!
Thanks Fred,
Probably brings back some memories eh.

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Any recordings in the near future?
I'm running it wide open with the coated PS3 batter / Evans EQ3 reso. I might go with a full reso head (Aquarian Force II) with a rolled up towel just touching the reso. As far as recordings, I'm not set-up for anything right now. Steady Freddy is set-up for recording, how's about it Fred?
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,I'm not set-up for anything right now. Steady Freddy is set-up for recording, how's about it Fred?
That sounds like fun. It's about time we meet anyway. PM me and we'll figure something out.

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Mendozart,
Great work! Now that's my idea of a good time. Taking what seems to be an old junk kit and making them shine once again. I'm always looking for deals like that, but I've never scored one that sweet.
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What a great job and it looks like you had fun doing it. This old kit is happy once again!
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I'm going to play them for a bit before I make any hasty decisions. Alot of people have said they are actually worth more if it has the original wrap. If I find some add ons, I might think of re-wrapping. Personally, I don't give a crap about audience approval.
In most cases that is true, however in your case the color has faded to a less desirable silver, while in other cases like mine there is only a slight fade which actually is more liked then the fresh silver. Or at least I find it less desirable, maybe people would like it.

Also this isn't fair my drums are the same and didn't get near as much attention! :(
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:51 PM
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In most cases that is true, however in your case the color has faded to a less desirable silver, while in other cases like mine there is only a slight fade which actually is more liked then the fresh silver. Or at least I find it less desirable, maybe people would like it.

Also this isn't fair my drums are the same and didn't get near as much attention! :(
Like I said, I really don't care what people think of the drums. They sound good to me and it really isn't about how the drums look, but how they sound and how good the drummer can make them sound. I'm probably getting a little more attention because of the rediculously low amount of money that I paid for them.
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. I'm probably getting a little more attention because of the rediculously low amount of money that I paid for them.
...that plus the pride you took in the work that you did on them.

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This drum set has really been a Godsend. I wasn't even looking to buy any vintage drums right now, but these just fell into my lap. I always regretted getting rid of my very first drum set, which was a Ludwig black panther set. I was so naive way back then and traded them for a set of CB700's because they were bigger and there were more drums. So when this oportunity arose I felt blessed and it's been a joy to restore. These drums were screaming for attention and luckily they came my way, for I have put some major TLC into them.
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WOW Mendo.......NICE JOB!!

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Excellent deal and great job on the refurb!!! It looks like you got your money's worth and then some!! They look great!!
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Geez, you're lucky! 150$! What a great deal, and great job you did cleaning the kit up! Look's amazing!
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Hey fusssion,
I was just reading the P.M. that you sent to me, and I like the description of the color of my drums. I will now refer to these as my "ginger ale fade" Ludwigs.
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Just a little review since I have them playable now. I ended up taking the Evans ported reso back and bought an Aquarian Force II for the bass drum, much better sound now with the full reso. The toms both had a little tone control rattle problems, took care of them. These drums sound really good and are really easy to tune. They are definitely gig worthy now. The only other thing I want is the bass drum mounted cymbal holder which I will be picking up shortly. I can now see (and hear) all the fuss about the older 3-ply Ludwigs, just a real classic sound.
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Beautiful drums! It's hard to believe that those are the same drums.

Could you please give a description of your cleaning procedure? it's obviously a good one.
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Beautiful drums! It's hard to believe that those are the same drums.

Could you please give a description of your cleaning procedure? it's obviously a good one.
Actually, I owe alot of the clean-up to LVDC, he has some great write-ups on this website. I've also had my share of detailing work in the past. The main part is to strip the shells of all hardware and do some tedious cleaning. I used Mothers pre-wax cleaner on the wrap, then followed up with Mothers cleaner wax. LVDC swears by Flitz polish for the chrome , but I didn't have any. I used good old SOS pads on the severely rusted parts, and no matter what some may say, they don't leave any scratches.
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I've got an old Ludwig marching snare Im working on restoring... As you can tell, Im new around the forums, so when you say LVDC..? Can somebody throw a link my way?
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I've got an old Ludwig marching snare Im working on restoring... As you can tell, Im new around the forums, so when you say LVDC..? Can somebody throw a link my way?
He's a member, Ludwigvondrumcrazy.

He's the forum's Jack Lawton.

http://drummerworld.com/forums/membe...poster&t=35431
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He's a member, Ludwigvondrumcrazy.

He's the forum's Jack Lawton.

http://drummerworld.com/forums/membe...poster&t=35431
SmoothJazz put the link to Harry Conway, who is another Ludwig aficianado. Here's a couple links, one to LVDC and another to a good Ludwig thread. There's 3 pages, but some very good info, including some of LVDC's cleaning methods. http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/member.php?u=5102
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you know actually it was a link to LVDC's member page and then it switched to harryconway, that was weird.
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Well, it's been a bit since I picked up the Luddies and after a few gigs I could say that these are some pretty cool drums. I'm really digging the vintage vibe. So, about a month ago I was perusing the ebay auctions and I see a 12" Ludwig tom that's faded just like mine with a date stamp of April 2 1971. That's just 10 days before mine were made. The amazing thing is I got outbid for the drum and lost the auction. I sent an e-mail to the winning bidder and he said he was just looking for some orphans to re-wrap, so he says just pick him up another 3-ply tom and we'll swap. What a guy! What's pretty amazing is there are two more toms on ebay with the date stamps of April 15th & 16th 1971, with the same fade! Here's the links to the other two drums. I wonder what was up with the wrap during ' 1971?
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Holy extra holes in the kick Batman...Looks like it had a run in with Tony Soprano

Nice find, great buy.
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Holy extra holes in the kick Batman...Looks like it had a run in with Tony Soprano

Nice find, great buy.
That's funny. Yeah, this won't be mistaken for a collector's kit, but it sure sounds good.
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That's funny. Yeah, this won't be mistaken for a collector's kit, but it sure sounds good.

To me it is better to find a player than a mint kit. The player will gig while the other mint kit gets polished once a month with a cotton diaper.
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