holz kit - 6" or 4"?

KONA · #1 01-29-2008, 04:28 AM

I bought a 4" Holz for my 22" ebony reso head. I haven't cut the head yet. I'm thinking maybe I should have ordered a 6" (just from looking at other drums on the 'net').

Does anyone have experience with this?

The main reason I'm cutting the hole is to releave some of the back-pressure and hopefully cut down a little on "beater-bounce." There is that added feature of having access for a mike if I want that at some point.

Thoughts?

aydee · #2 01-29-2008, 04:32 AM

I'd start with a 4". You could always recut it to a 6" if you didnt like the sound/feel.

KONA · #3 01-29-2008, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by aydee

I'd start with a 4". You could always recut it to a 6" if you didnt like the sound/feel.

aydee - how ya been doing there?

Yes.
That's what I was thinking also. I just thought if I was gooing for a 6" (after forum response and pondering it all) I would just take the 4 back and trade up for the 6".

aydee · #4 01-29-2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KONA

aydee - how ya been doing there?

Yes.
That's what I was thinking also. I just thought if I was gooing for a 6" (after forum response and pondering it all) I would just take the 4 back and trade up for the 6".

You dont need to put on the Holz. Just cut your reso to 4" and hear/feel the difference. If that works for you, then put the holz on. If not, cut it bigger and then exchange it.

KONA · #5 01-29-2008, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by aydee

You dont need to put on the Holz. Just cut your reso to 4" and hear/feel the difference. If that works for you, then put the holz on. If not, cut it bigger and then exchange it.

Right

I see right above my post there is a hole-cutting thread.

I'm reading through that right now.

Cheers

harryconway · #6 01-29-2008, 09:36 AM

On a 22" kick, I think the 4"HOLZ will be plenty of port.

drumr0 · #7 01-29-2008, 02:53 PM

I put a 6" holz on my resonant and wish I would have put a 4" on it. I like a little more boom.

mind_drummer · #8 01-29-2008, 05:22 PM

4" holz for sure ! Dont kill that bass drum... lol

danander11 · #9 01-29-2008, 08:35 PM

I read an article some time back that said that a 4" hole should be the max, if you want to retain the sound of the front head. Going above that effectively negated any tonal advantage you would get from the reso..

I love having a full head on the front, the sound is rich and full.. so I guess my opinion would be the same as the others on here.. go 4".. if you are still unhappy, open it up.

Peace!

#10 01-29-2008, 08:37 PM

I've always used hole templates from Remo and Aquarian which are 5" and I've never had a problem with it. I think 6" would be a bit much for me, so I'd personally go with the 4 if that's all you have to choose from.

cdrums21 · #11 01-30-2008, 03:37 AM

I have a 4" hole in my front head at the 4 o'clock position and it works perfectly. It keeps enough boom and the batter head feels really good when struck. Make sure you don't put the hole in the center of the head. It will take a bit too much of the boom away, and it looks gay IMO.

danander11 · #12 01-30-2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cdrums21

and it looks gay IMO.

ROFL!!!!!!!!

I haven't heard that one in a long time...

KarlCrafton · #13 01-30-2008, 10:26 PM

The 4" is the one I use.
It keeps most of a full reso head sound, and it still feels good.

KONA · #14 01-31-2008, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cdrums21

Make sure you don't put the hole in the center of the head. It will take a bit too much of the boom away, and it looks gay IMO.

Ya - I probably won't put the hole in the centre of the drum "not that there's anything wrong with it".

I will hold off for now with the hole cutting. I've only been back into the game for a few months now and I will see how the pedal feels in a few months or so. I really like the sound of my bass drum as it is - lots of that really deep bass boom that's controlled with that EMAD head that came with the drum. Like I said earlier the only thing I don't like is that the beater bounces a little too much and the 4" hole, I hear, may control that a little.

And thanks for all the help everyone....

cdrums21 · #15 01-31-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KONA

Ya - I probably won't put the hole in the centre of the drum "not that there's anything wrong with it".

lol good one! I haven't seen that Seinfeld episode in a while...

GRUNTERSDAD · #16 02-03-2008, 12:17 AM

I just posted this elsewhere Kona, but couldn't cut the black head so I bought a PS3 and cut
that one instead.