Brass workhorse

Jazz · #1 12-30-2007, 08:15 PM

I thinking aboutpicking up a metal (probably brass) workhorse. I've been looking at the pork pie big black brass and the worldmax black dawg. Is there any major difference between these two?
I'm really open to suggestion. I know a lot a people really like slingy cob's (there's one on ebay right now) and rogers powertones.
So, I guess I'm really asking if there is a snare of this this syle in the ~$200 price range that sticks out above the others.

Jazz · #2 12-31-2007, 05:08 AM

ooooh- I just found a powertone that looks nice :)

Pete Stoltman · #3 12-31-2007, 05:07 PM

If it were me I'd go with the Rogers first and the Slingerland second but then I'm a retro kind of guy. Played on both of those drums since back in the early 70's and they definitley fit the "workhorse" criteria. Sorry, don't have experience with the other two.

tomtom · #4 12-31-2007, 05:41 PM

In fact the "Big Black" and the WorldMax "Black Hawg" (6.5x14) are essentially the same drums (shells & lugs). I highly reccomend them, especially with die-cast hoops. With the DC hoops and 42 strand wires they are the same as Drum Paradise´s "Hitmaker", used by the likes of Aronoff, Colaiuta etc. in the studio. Same shell, same lugs, great drum.

punkdrummer1 · #5 12-31-2007, 06:20 PM

the pork snare's I think sound real good for the price. Not totaly breaking the bank aswell :D

Michael G · #6 12-31-2007, 07:10 PM

Both the Rogers and Slingerland snare are both exceptional snares, you should go with either of the 2! Scovit, a forum member here, as a youtube video of him playing a Powertone. And, they both can only go up in value since they are older, especially the Powertone.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ogpnm77qU10

Is that your sound?

I'll try and dig up sound sample of the Slingerland model, I am pretty sure Krupa played on one in some of his very last recordings before his death, I'll look into it more. edit: His was slightly different, mainly it was a 10 lug version. But either way you go, you won't be disappointed.

cornelius · #7 01-01-2008, 02:10 AM

If you're thinking workhorse, I'd say a Drum Paradise HitMaker or Pork Pie.

I MUCH prefer the sound of the old Slingy brass snares over the Powertone. The Slingy sensitivity and tone is very versatile. I could never get the snare sensitivity right with the flatter snare beds on the old Powertones. But, the Zoomatic strainers sometimes slip, and aren't as reliable as the Rogers hardware, so it's personal preference.

I also think the 60s Slingys with the brass hoops are a better bet than the 70's steel hoop models. BTW, one tweak for the Zoomatic, is opening it up and install in a spring to tighten the action and reduce slipping. http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/zoo...er_repair.html

The Ploughman · #8 01-01-2008, 02:24 AM

Get the Powertone, if you dont like it because they suck, send it to meeee.

I have two COB powertones, a 1963 and a 67 and 4 COB Dynasonics, a Worldmax in 4x14 with tubelugs choppers and clips. The worldmax is also a good drum.