Fattest Snare Sound Ever Recorded?

mikei · #1 11-28-2007, 06:51 AM

My God,

I was listening to the Eagles today really, really loud in my car today and I was really listening to the sound of the snare. HIS SNARE SOUND WAS SO FAT!!! Sounds like the batter is finger tight.

I dont think I have ever heard one tuned that LOW.

It sounded really good and fit the music (Witchy Woman).

Do you know of any other snares recorded that were tuned that low? If so, I want to hear it.

rendezvous_drummer · #2 11-28-2007, 07:01 AM

I don't trust myself- John Mayer

Steve Jordan's snare in that song is FAT!!!!!! One could even say it's "PH" phat!

psm1580b · #3 11-28-2007, 07:48 AM

Check out Faith No More... pretty fat sound.

Joe P · #4 11-28-2007, 07:53 AM

I once put snare wires and a snare bottom rim on a 14x12 floor tom.

'Nuff said.

#5 11-28-2007, 09:01 AM

Really , I have to disagree with the 80's sound (eagles)

The erm....'fatness.....you hear is not the actual drum sound, That really is a bucket of reverb applied to a snare that is muffled to death and it is horrible.

Jeff Almeyda · #6 11-28-2007, 11:16 AM

AC/DC

Back in Black. The kick and snare are almost the same pitch.

#7 11-28-2007, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendezvous_drummer

I don't trust myself- John Mayer

Steve Jordan's snare in that song is FAT!!!!!! One could even say it's "PH" phat!

I'll add Vultures to that list.

44Ronin - Well, personal opinion. There is nothing wrong with muffling a snare to death if it gets the sound. Some of my favorite classic drum sounds came from the drummer more or less playing a towel.

sticksnstonesrus · #8 11-28-2007, 03:15 PM

Mick Brown (Dokken)....always had a fatty snare. John Fowler (Steelheart) also super-fat snare.

Some Tommy Lee spirit is in the recollection of fatness....

#9 11-28-2007, 03:29 PM

Jeremy Taggart of Our Lady Peace has always had a fat snare sound. I fell in love with that sound from their first album Naveed and have done my best to duplicate it ever since.

cnw60 · #10 11-28-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikei

My God,

I was listening to the Eagles today really, really loud in my car today and I was really listening to the sound of the snare. HIS SNARE SOUND WAS SO FAT!!! Sounds like the batter is finger tight.

I dont think I have ever heard one tuned that LOW.

It sounded really good and fit the music (Witchy Woman).

Do you know of any other snares recorded that were tuned that low? If so, I want to hear it.

Don't know what Henley played on those recordings, but when I saw the Hell Freezes Over concert DVD, he was playing an old Supraphonic. It was interesting because whenever Henley was behind the drums (which were DW), the Supra was there, but whenever Henley went out front and Scott Crago took over the drums, he switched to a DW snare that matched the rest of the kit. Henley's Supra looked OLD too - so it wouldn't surprise me if that's what he used back in the day.

...and Cobham's snare on the Red Baron has a nice sound IMO..

Muckster · #11 11-28-2007, 04:34 PM

I definately feel that Henley gets the "fattest drum sound" award. Check out the snare on the Eagles' "I can't tell you why."

Those were the days when the sound engineers taped wallets to the snare.

druid · #12 11-28-2007, 05:31 PM

I've never really been a fan of FAT snare sounds....you can never make out the delicate stuff....and they are difficult to play due to no rebound....I prefer midrange to cracky sounds myself...but hey we all have our likes and dislikes.....I just don't like playing a drum that feels like playing a bowl of soup.

MykeyInChains · #13 11-28-2007, 05:33 PM

Give "Elvis Is Dead" by Living Colour a listen.

FATTEST snare sound i've heard.

rendezvous_drummer · #14 11-28-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fourstringdrums

I'll add Vultures to that list.

44Ronin - Well, personal opinion. There is nothing wrong with muffling a snare to death if it gets the sound. Some of my favorite classic drum sounds came from the drummer more or less playing a towel.

I was just about to put Vultures haha.

rendezvous_drummer · #15 11-28-2007, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinness

Jeremy Taggart of Our Lady Peace has always had a fat snare sound. I fell in love with that sound from their first album Naveed and have done my best to duplicate it ever since.

Really think so? I always thought he had a ringy snare sound.

Steady Freddy · #16 11-28-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muckster

I definately feel that Henley gets the "fattest drum sound" award. Check out the snare on the Eagles' "I can't tell you why."

He's also hitting the 12 inch rack tom on the back beats. That adds a lot to the sound.

DW came out with a ballard snare. It's a 16 X 10 on legs like a floor tom. That thing should be awesome for the classic fat snare sound.

sticksnstonesrus · #17 11-28-2007, 06:31 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Zuiderwijk

Just listening to the radio...

Golden Earring....Radar Love to be exact. I thought his snare sound was pretty beefy...almost muddy.

stasz · #18 11-28-2007, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sticksnstonesrus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Zuiderwijk

Just listening to the radio...

Golden Earring....Radar Love to be exact. I thought his snare sound was pretty beefy...almost muddy.

I'll second that song, definitely a nice snare sound there.

I just thinking about this yesterday... one of the others drummers in our basketball pep band has a nice snare, but he cranks it pretty high and he ALWAYS rimshots (seriously, all his backbeats are rimshots). It was kind of annoying me and reminded me how there has to be a balance between fat and low and high crackly rimshots.

Deathmetalconga · #19 11-28-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by druid

I've never really been a fan of FAT snare sounds....you can never make out the delicate stuff....and they are difficult to play due to no rebound....I prefer midrange to cracky sounds myself...but hey we all have our likes and dislikes.....I just don't like playing a drum that feels like playing a bowl of soup.

I like a crisper sound as well, but for some genres, like rock, a fat sound is called for and there's not much as subtlety (as we commonly think of it) on the drums. If you played a crackier snare on a lot of rock tunes, something would feel like it's missing.

Steve Zimmerman's (original Fate's Warning drummer) snare is fatter than a Wal-Mart check-out line.

DWfan20005 · #20 11-28-2007, 08:00 PM

Anything from the 60's or 70's has fat snare sounds in my opinion.

Jeremy Bender · #21 11-28-2007, 09:52 PM

The song "Hey Nineteen" by Steely Dan. It was steve Gadd, I think.

TopCat · #22 11-28-2007, 09:53 PM

Post links people, links! You know i'm too lazy to youtube that stuff myself.

Class A Drummer · #23 11-28-2007, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikei

My God,

I was listening to the Eagles today really, really loud in my car today and I was really listening to the sound of the snare. HIS SNARE SOUND WAS SO FAT!!! Sounds like the batter is finger tight.

I dont think I have ever heard one tuned that LOW.

It sounded really good and fit the music (Witchy Woman).

Do you know of any other snares recorded that were tuned that low? If so, I want to hear it.

The snare sound in "C'mon feel the noise" by Quiet Riot is awesome like that.

cnw60 · #24 11-28-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Bender

The song "Hey Nineteen" by Steely Dan. It was steve Gadd, I think.

Rick Marotta played on that one.

here's a great link that tells you pretty much who played on any Steely Dan track - http://www.granatino.com/sdresource/md1.htm#gaucho

stasz · #25 11-28-2007, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathmetalconga

I like a crisper sound as well, but for some genres, like rock, a fat sound is called for and there's not much as subtlety (as we commonly think of it) on the drums. If you played a crackier snare on a lot of rock tunes, something would feel like it's missing.

I totally agree. If you ever listen to Grand Funk Railroad, all respect the great drummer that Don Brewer is, his snare is always tuned nice and tight. I think that a lot of their songs would sound better if he had tuned it down a bit.

mikei · #26 11-28-2007, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendezvous_drummer

I don't trust myself- John Mayer

Steve Jordan's snare in that song is FAT!!!!!! One could even say it's "PH" phat!

Wow,

I just listened to it.

That is Jabba the Hut FAT

sticksnstonesrus · #27 11-29-2007, 12:51 AM

John Fowler (from Steelheart's debut album.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Nb9...eature=related

sticksnstonesrus · #28 11-29-2007, 01:01 AM

Mick Brown (live-fatness)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbxfBQHTc-s

Not live-fatness...same song....also a primo-example of water-shots off the drums...excellent stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Yno...eature=related

And let's not forget Bobby Blotzer (undoubtedly the hardest hitting drummer of the 80's)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5gMeXz2YMw

KzSgDrummer · #29 11-29-2007, 10:05 AM

Those two John Mayer/Steve Jordan tracks are so unbelievably fat..

Almost anything from the 70s will be super fat, but I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Gadd by name yet. He definitely had one of the best fat sounds to come from that era.. plenty of high-end snap too. Check out Grover Washington's album Winelight or Al Jarreau's This Time for his snare in all its cannon-like glory.

A song from Jarreau's album.. absolutely dreamy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpeczK1LpE0

Citizen Insane · #30 04-18-2008, 04:22 PM

The fattest snare sound ever recorded is Gavin Harrison's 14x5 recording custom snare on the song "halo" by Porcupine Tree. That snare sound is like getting punched in the gut by a professional boxer!

PaiceFan · #31 04-20-2008, 02:12 AM

I'd have to say Bonzo on Dy'er Maker has a pretty FAT sounding snare. No Duct Tape or wallets on that one.

bermuda · #32 04-20-2008, 02:22 AM

Bev Bevan's snare on any classic ELO track. Besides being loose to begin with, it's thickened-up with some tight echo.

I have a12x16" snare that gets close to that vibe acoustically.

Bermuda

#33 04-20-2008, 02:34 AM

This is fat, but it does have definition. It isn't the typical dull, lifeless, 80's or even extremely dry 70's fat.

A nice 14x7 Matt Sorum signature prototype, birch, Coated Emperor batter, Ambassador Snare Side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD0UDxYYNlM

sticksnstonesrus · #34 04-20-2008, 05:02 AM

Just because I hadn't see this thread in a while...and I didn't post it as a link before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIA4gcrk-50

The Keith Moon · #35 04-28-2008, 10:12 PM

Fleetwood Mac- Rumours album has fat sound except the song second hand news.

stasz · #36 08-17-2008, 09:44 PM

Resurrecting this thread after hearing this tune. Carolina Drama by the Raconteurs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXefkECoL6k

I DARE any snares out there to match the fatness of Patrick Keeler's on that track. It's not quite as punchy as some fat snare sounds, but I still love the sound. Snare wires sound killer too.

Nodiggie · #37 08-17-2008, 10:03 PM

Raw recording or gated and compressed? lol

stasz · #38 08-17-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodiggie

Raw recording or gated and compressed? lol

Well, the title says it: "ever recorded". It just has to sound fat through the speakers, even if it didn't in real life.

The Levee Breaker · #39 08-17-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Keith Moon

Fleetwood Mac- Rumours album has fat sound except the song second hand news.

I LOVE that Album. Rumours has got to be one of my personal favourite albums, and definitely one of the fattest snare sounds ever

rolander · #40 08-18-2008, 03:38 PM

harvey mason's snare sound on herbie hancock's 'headhunters' album immediarely springs to mind.........