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Old 11-06-2007, 10:57 PM
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Hey everyone... Check this out... It's a custom 50 ply, 8 X 14", custom lacquered maple snare I just built. Here are the pics of it. It sounds amazing. Maybe I will sell it... Noooo. Let me know what you guys think.













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Old 11-06-2007, 11:03 PM
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my god 50 plys it must be beastly any chnace of getting a sound clip.how did you price it
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:14 PM
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Whooooooaaa! Have there been complaints of hearing loss in your neighborhood?
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:14 PM
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The shell is insane! I've never seen a 50-ply shell. How thick is it?

When you say you "built" it, I assume you selected the components and put them together - you didn't actually make the shell?? If you bought it, who made it for you and were the holes pre-drilled?
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:17 PM
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my god 50 plys it must be beastly any chnace of getting a sound clip.how did you price it

I am working on recording it this weekend. I will have to post the link to that too when I do record it. Most of the cost of that came from what it actually cost me for materials. I looked for all the most expensive parts and custom stuff too.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:26 PM
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The shell is insane! I've never seen a 50-ply shell. How thick is it?

When you say you "built" it, I assume you selected the components and put them together - you didn't actually make the shell?? If you bought it, who made it for you and were the holes pre-drilled?
The shell is 1 5/16" thick. I purchased the shell through keller. I did buy the components. I did all the drilling myself and I did all the lacquering myself. Because it was thick, I had to buy all custom bolts for the whole thing.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:03 AM
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So you have a 11 3/8 ths inside diameter snare that weighs a ton. I'm not sure what the advantage is to 50 plys.
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I thick, heavy shell will cut down on richness of tone and produce more volume, HOWEVER, a deeper shell will give you back that richness of tone. If you're going to have a thick shell, it should be deep as well. This snare is so deep it has the dimensions of some of those short-stack floor toms. I think it should have no problem giving a rich tone with extreme volume. When correctly tuned, I'll bet it has more punch than Mike Tyson and more crack than a plumber's butt.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:18 AM
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When correctly tuned, I'll bet it has more punch than Mike Tyson and more crack than a plumber's butt.

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HOLY SNAP! that snare is thick.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:20 AM
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In the words of my brother: "Jimminy Crickets!!!" That's a thick snare...how heavy is it??? Must be a beast to set up and transport.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:46 AM
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From the third table back from the stage, will it matter?

Honestly, I doubt it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:48 AM
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Really worth 2200$? Must be a really nice snare.

How much did it cost to build?
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:52 AM
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haha thick enough..

I'd like to hear it
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:26 AM
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$2200? Good luck with that...unless you have a fancy badge that says ocdp or pork pie, you will be lucky to get over $500 for that monster. I am not a fan of the crazy ply snare but I do love the strainer, and the lugs. Where did you get them at? It would look great with some diecast hoops too...
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:37 AM
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:43 AM
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I wonder how the sound of something as explosive as this, blend in with a regular kit?
Would it overpower the overall sound making the rest of the kit sound wimpy?
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:01 AM
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that is AWESOME, so beefy!
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:14 AM
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Sound like more money than sense....sorry dude with so many great snare drums and custom snares on the market for that kind of cash I cannot see the sense....
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:38 PM
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. I looked for all the most expensive parts and custom stuff too.
Why? Why not the best looking, or best working?
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:35 PM
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Considering those lugs are meant to be expensive, they don't really look it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:42 PM
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wow, that must serius sound like a cannon.. nice..
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:08 PM
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...I don't get why so many people here are jumping all over you over this ?

You built a nice snare drum to your specs paying your money for something that gives you pleasure, plus a feeling of accomplishment, (and severe tinnitis possibly).

From your pics, it shows the pride that you took in building this.

Very nice work theberzh.

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Old 11-07-2007, 02:35 PM
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Looks well made. And the finish is nicely done. I agree however that die-cast hoops would add to its brutish look.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:41 PM
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I like the shape of those lugs, and the fact that there's 24 of them on one drum :)
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:41 PM
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Hey, tone down the language and the attitude or it won't be such a beautiful day in the neighborhood for you around here.

I think the snare looks nice, 50 plies...wow. But inquiring minds still want to know how you came up with $2200? I'm thinking it might be a typo and you meant $220. That would make more sense for a drum you built yourself.
I think the drum could fetch that much if it came from a well-known builder or Keller customizer. If it's just some unknown hobbyist ordering a custom shell from Keller and finishing it with high-quality parts, it might just get half that - even if they do a top-notch finishing job as berzh has done.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:44 PM
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I think the drum could fetch that much if it came from a well-known builder or Keller customizer. If it's just some unknown hobbyist ordering a custom shell from Keller and finishing it with high-quality parts, it might just get half that - even if they do a top-notch finishing job as berzh has done.
I could see retail being that much, but even then I think that's pushing it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:44 PM
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The drum looks very nice. I'm curious as to how it sounds at different tuning ranges. I think Mr. Rogers just threw himself under his own trolley car.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:21 PM
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I could see retail being that much, but even then I think that's pushing it.
Agreed. In the $2,000 range, people expect exotic materials or unusual construction methods, in addition to impeccable craftsmanship and a pedigree. Fifty plies is hell of cool, but it doesn't meet that standard.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:30 PM
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Agreed. In the $2,000 range, people expect exotic materials or unusual construction methods, in addition to impeccable craftsmanship and a pedigree. Fifty plies is hell of cool, but it doesn't meet that standard.

If the parts cost him 2000$, well, he's been riped off !
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:40 PM
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All criticisms aside -

For the sake of satisfying our curiosity, theberzh, how did you arrive at $2,200? Can you show us a BOM?
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:35 PM
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Ok.. couple things...

Congrats on your first "custom built" drum! Welcome to the addiction.

That being said... there are quite a few people here that put together their own stuff and while I understand that you putting $2200 in there was to catch attention, it's over the top, and just plain silly. Why? Well... just a quick look shows me that you had some issues with the drilling holes busting out on ya.. you sanded them down but they're still visable. In the future, consider putting a backing piece of wood in there so you don't have that problem. Not sure what drill bit you used but I suggest a good brad point bit. Also, consider using a unibit to go back in and countersink the holes a bit. The "expensive hardware" you used is just typical over the counter stuff and nothing custom... so with the exception of the Trick strainer it's nothing special. I'm pretty sure I can buy those rims for about $7 each at my wholesale cost. ;)

So... in conclusion... an attempt to brag is a bit silly but it is always nice to see someone get addicted to drum building.
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:55 PM
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Ok.. couple things...

Congrats on your first "custom built" drum! Welcome to the addiction.

That being said... there are quite a few people here that put together their own stuff and while I understand that you putting $2200 in there was to catch attention, it's over the top, and just plain silly. Why? Well... just a quick look shows me that you had some issues with the drilling holes busting out on ya.. you sanded them down but they're still visable. In the future, consider putting a backing piece of wood in there so you don't have that problem. Not sure what drill bit you used but I suggest a good brad point bit. Also, consider using a unibit to go back in and countersink the holes a bit. The "expensive hardware" you used is just typical over the counter stuff and nothing custom... so with the exception of the Trick strainer it's nothing special. I'm pretty sure I can buy those rims for about $7 each at my wholesale cost. ;)

So... in conclusion... an attempt to brag is a bit silly but it is always nice to see someone get addicted to drum building.


http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=31353 and find me a link to where you can get those rims for $7 and post it right here.
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:56 PM
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I think the drum could fetch that much if it came from a well-known builder or Keller customizer. If it's just some unknown hobbyist ordering a custom shell from Keller and finishing it with high-quality parts, it might just get half that - even if they do a top-notch finishing job as berzh has done.
Thank you. It was a pain in the ass to finish and get it that nice.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:01 PM
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I can get those rims cheaper than $7... My regular wholesale is around $7. Keep in mind some of us build just one or two drums... lol

You'd have been better off getting a thick stave shell... would have saved you some money and gotten the same results. It's a learning curve... =)
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:49 PM
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Sweet Jimminy Christmas Ghost! That thing will probably leave a crater on the floor beneath it after a hard rim-shot!

I've never seen anything like that...it's beautiful...I'm tearing up a little...*sniff*

It's unfortunate that you'll need a forklift to hold it in front of you, to play it.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:51 AM
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THAT SNARE LOOKS AMAZING! Geez bro, you really have gone insane! 50 PLYS! :p ah ha, that looks like so much fun to play. Sound clips, please :D
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Sure 50 plies might not be necessary, but neither are 5 drum kits (or more than one good one, at that), or flat screen TVs, or a Dodge Hemi, or designer clothing, or dinner at Morton's- I could continue for a while on this. You all should appreciate his creativity and originality (I've personally never seen a snare such as this), and I for one say mighty fine job! It fits the kit perfectly, I'd love to just go 'Animal' on it for a while...
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:43 AM
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How did this cost you over $1000 to make? Surely all the hardware and the shell, plus whatever you paid for finish doesn't cost that much.
Postage for the shell and medical bills incurred from the hernia he got picking it up.

Anyway, I'm bored, so here's how I see it (prices are rough estimates):

~Drum shell - $600
~Throw-off - $75
~Hoops - $30
~Butt plate - $5
~Vent hole - $4
~Lugs x24 - $100
~Snare wires - $10
~Heads - $30
~Clear coat - $8
~Shipping - ...maybe $50?
~Nice snare - Priceless

Adds up to a little less than a grand, though the estimates are a touch high. Then sandpaper, tension rods, gaskets, but those don't add much. Not that it matters in any way, I'm just bored.

Nice looking drum, by the way. Can't wait to hear the sound file.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:26 PM
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Postage for the shell and medical bills incurred from the hernia he got picking it up.

Anyway, I'm bored, so here's how I see it (prices are rough estimates):

~Drum shell - $600
~Throw-off - $75
~Hoops - $30
~Butt plate - $5
~Vent hole - $4
~Lugs x24 - $100
~Snare wires - $10
~Heads - $30
~Clear coat - $8
~Shipping - ...maybe $50?
~Nice snare - Priceless

Adds up to a little less than a grand, though the estimates are a touch high. Then sandpaper, tension rods, gaskets, but those don't add much. Not that it matters in any way, I'm just bored.

Nice looking drum, by the way. Can't wait to hear the sound file.
All the prices except the shell and shipping seem reasonable. I don't see why a raw keller shell, even if the edges have already been cut, would be $600. I know it was just an estimate, but if it was that much or close I'll be very surprised. Shipping would only be about $20 too.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:32 PM
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a 20 ply will run you about 120 from most builders... You need 3 more plys after that so that's going to add up pretty quick. I figure a shell cost would be between 300-500 depending on how it was done.
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