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#202
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A percussionist/drummer friend of mine has 15" Sultan hats. They sound amazing.
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#203
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I'm building up a new jazz kit from the ground up. I'm looking for two things:
1: a way to get some top notch cymbals (hats and a ride) at the best bang-for-buck 2: a ride that is very versatile, providing a definitive sound with nice wash and a nice crashability (for a ride) for use in acoustic jazz. Does Agop fit both of these categories? If so, what models/sizes should I specifically be looking for? So far, I've the closest I've come is 20" Zildjian K Customs of various sorts...but I'd like to find something a little more affordable (and maybe something I can find used). Thanks! |
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#204
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Check over the extensive sound files at CymbalsOnly.com, The Cymbal Shop and Heartbeat Percussion in regards to various Istanbul Agop rides suited for jazz and see what tickles your fancy :} http://www.cymbalsonly.com/cymbals/agop/agop.htm http://www.thecymbalshop.com/shop/home.php http://www.heartbeatpercussion.com/cymbals/index.html |
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I really like this cymbal - the two rivets are just the right amount of sizzle for me.
It's heavy enough to have great warmth and it has some nice ring to it too and the wash is not overwhelming for me. I'm very happy with it. ISTANBUL AGOP Mel Lewis 21" Signature Ride with two rivets.
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Love my 21" Mel Lewis 2 rivet ride too. Enjoy! |
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20" Traditional Sizzle ride [6 rivets} 2175g
front and back: Last edited by Steamer; 01-25-2009 at 10:28 PM. |
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13" Mel Lewis 1982 high hats
top-740 bottom-770g front and back shots: Last edited by Steamer; 01-25-2009 at 10:29 PM. |
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Just curious - why do the ML 13" hats come in two weights?
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The top is just slightly lighter than the bottom on this particular 13" ML 1982 pair Kona. Makes for a dandy combo of a crisp foot chip { little heavier bottom} and splashy airy wash { lighter top} that certainly delivers the rich sounding HH goods. |
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Have you ever tried a 10" bell (Alchemy for instance) top hat and a 10" splash on the bottom? It makes for a really interesting sounding mini hat combination. I want to go over to Heartbeat one of these days and try some.
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Hey wait to see what new goodies Heartbeat has coming in after NAMM for your next visit Kona :} |
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I think a 10" Sizzle Bell with a 10" splash (bottom) would be interesting. My Alchemy Bell gave the hat a "deadly" high pitched ring (with fast choking) that was a very nice effect on some up-tempo latin/jazz rhythms. Just playing around with it is a lot of fun.........Can't have too many cymbals around. I just love these Istanbul cymbals. Actually, I haven't heard too many cymbals over the years that I really didn't like - except maybe the "metal-cut-outs" I had with my first kit in 1965. But - they're probably "collectible" now as I'm sure those old Japanese drums from back then are too.
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22" SE TW 2470g
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Great new photo from the factory showing the traditional hand shaping and hammering of a Turkish pie courtesy Istanbul Agop USA
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Stan, that`s one of the most beautiful Agop photos I`ve seen so far.
They simply represent a very individual kind of cymbal maker...pure art! It`s simply incredible, I`m really excited about their new lines and signature pies, especially about the Matt Chamberlain ride. =) Thanks a lot for sharing the photo! Karl |
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20" SE Jazz Ride 1805g
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Oh for those interested the new 09 Agop catalog with all the new pies is available to view online now :}
http://www.istanbulcymbals.com/new-c...g-for-2009.pdf |
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Nice looking goodies for sure. Obama where is my stimulus check.?
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LOL! Good one Gruntersdad :} |
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man those cindy blackman sigs looks pretty sharp how much do you think they run for.
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I went to Cymbalsonly web site and I really like the Cindy Blackman rides. Gotta save some money, or get lucky on eBay.
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I was just thinking, Those guys that make the cymbals get paid to sit around and get hammered all day! Sorry about that! I had a weird day.
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Here's a pic of Cindy with Carmine Appice taking a photo of one of her new OM Signature Series pies at the Agop booth at NAMM 09 to further wet you appetite Gruntersdad :} |
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Thanks Stan...I really needed that. 8+)
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Glad to help buddy.....:}
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#228
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22" SE Jazz Ride 2025g
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22" #024 06 LE with 6 rivets added by me
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20" Istanbul Agop Traditional China Pang 1475g. A real RARE bird indeed!
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Jesus christ Stan. I'm so jealous.
I tried some SE Jazz rides and 25th Anniversary rides in London last year and I think I wee'd a little. I'm not even joking. I think the SE's really do it for me. That really satin sort of traditional finish and the incredible looking hammering is just amazing. But the sound...OHMYGOD it's heaven. Lloyd. |
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Hey check out the rest of the new Lenny series which is some variations on the regular SE's. The new crashes and hats will make you........ well lets just say be sure to be equiped with some "Depends" before testing them Lloyd:} |
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15" Cindy Blackman OM high hats 993g top and 1027g bottom
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I liked the sounds of the Cindy line. From the website they had the most agreeable
sound to me. Good choice.
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Lots of old factory "dirt" in their sound and a very nice crisp foot "chic" combined with an open dark sloshy wash. Yummy!! |
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22" 06 LE Original Bell {high bell} 2550g
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Some close up shots of the big beautiful clear musical bell on the 06 LE 2550g Original {High Bell} ride.
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Underside shots of 06 LE Original Bell
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Photo pictorial of another recent Istanbul Agop find from a recent factory shipment to Heartbeat Percussion here in Canada. A very lightweight Epoch ride at 2635g.
Very different than the much heavier earlier samples but equally a total Epoch gem in its own unique right. Great woody stick click stick with a lush wash. Lots of "air" floating around the stick at this weight combined with some sweet warm Agop Turkish trash. Love it! |
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You're killin' me, Stan!
I haven't bought a cymbal in ages. Once we get settled in the new house, I'll have to figure out what to sell so I can buy an Epoch. I haven't played a production model but I do own one of the prototypes.
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