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Old 09-05-2007, 08:14 PM
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Hey everyone,
inspired by some things I read here on DW and an article on making octobans I read on the internet I decided to give it a try. I wanted to get the basic materials as cheap as possible since it's just an experiment. So I decided to go for PVC rather than the more common acrylic. And since 6" PVC is an irregular size (very hard to find) in the Netherlands I went for an 8" diameter. I have made two octobans, one is 18"deep and the other 22". I equipped it with Remo Emperor, which is the only thing I regret. I can't really get the sound I want out of them (Yes, I did remember to make a bearing edge, so that's probably not the issue). I got some cheap noname lugs and screws, and Stagg tom brackets. I haven't got a stand yet though.

The standard PVC was a dark grey with some letters printed on them about the manufacturer, warranty and some production data. It was hideous. So I went to a paint store with one of my toms (I have a tama superstar custom in ocean fade lacquer, see signature line). It had to be mixed specially for me since they had nothing like it. The guy working there was amazed at the colour since it was not blue or green, but not really turquoise either. After a little experimenting he came up with the exact same colour and sold it to me at a small discount since he enjoyed the challenge of mixing that colour and we had a few good laughs discussing the colour and first few results.

Well enough with all the text, here's some pictures (sorry about the low quality):



The "natural" PVC colour



After spraying on a primer and the first layer of the ocean fade colour. I put some tape over the bearing edges to keep those clean.



The two finished octobans.
The darker parts at the top are simply made by spraying another layer of paint; the paint is actually quite dark but the first layer was very thin and on a white primer. Now they look a lot more expensive and luxurious.

So now I'm gonna look for a proper stand. I have a piece of metal tubing that fits in the brackets so I'm probably gonna DIY a stand for it, by buying a cheap cymbal stand, drilling a hole in the tube and welding the tube onto the cymbal stand.

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Old 09-05-2007, 11:11 PM
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thats wicked, who much did it cost you in the end?...do u have the link from the dw site?
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:25 PM
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They cost me about 200 euro's so far since I had part of it (most of the drilling) done by someone else with more experience. (the custom lacquer was expensive, even though I got a discount... ). The link to the webpage on how to make them:
http://www.robotics.com/tubetoms.html
The 200 euro's is without a stand but that's not gonna be very expensive if I DIY one.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:54 PM
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Hey man, that really looks great. Cool to see that a poor student like me can make those octobans. Where did you get the lugs and rims? I might want to give it a shot, but I wouldn't know where to get the stuff here in Holland :).
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:17 AM
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could you use a pearl ISS mount to mount them?
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:35 AM
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That's some sweet stuff, Phil! I wish I was crafty...sure would make things cheaper.
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:27 PM
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You can ask for lugs and hoops at most music stores, or you could visit www.groovefactory.nl and see what they have. They have some pretty cheap heads and deliver for free throughout the netherlands.
The brackets are 22mm holes, so the Pearl ISS mounting system would fit there perfectly.
Thanks for the compliments :) I'm very proud of my octobans!
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:39 PM
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I saw the same article a while back, and have been looking around for some appropriate sized PVC. I actually just ran into some last night! Hopefully I'll have some that turn out as nicely as yours did.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:27 PM
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You should ask good advice at a paint store about how to paint them, and generally be careful.
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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In a word,... AWESOME!! I never even thought about how easy it would be to make octobans before reading this thread. Now I suddenly have a new project.

Anyone every really compare the sound of home built vs the real thing?
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:26 PM
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The real Tama octobans are more naturally high-pitched because of the smaller diameter (they are 6" wide) and the harder material (I think they use fiberglass or acrylic). But if I tighten the heads a lot they have a very high-pitched but very powerful sound.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:10 PM
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They turned out very well.

Well make a Mike Portnoy out of you yet....
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:17 PM
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i'm so pumped to get started on mine...i think i'm going to get my sister to paint some psycedelic stuff on mine instead of trying to match the colour to my kit tho.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:15 AM
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I've also been considering some tribal patterns, plenty of stickers available.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:56 AM
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If I would ever do a project like this the color wouldn't be a problem; my drums are white :).

Do you have soundclips yet btw?
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:52 PM
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No, I don't have any mic'ing equipment :( But you're welcome to come and have a look ;)
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:45 AM
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they turned out amazing!!!! I wish I could do something like that. Maybe something to look into the future about :D
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:44 PM
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Thanks for all the compliments :)
Unfortunately a scratch appeared on the 22" octoban yesterday... I had some paint left so I covered it up a little bit but it did leave an ugly spot... So I went to the paint store immediately and bought a clear paint to protect it... I hope that works!
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:45 PM
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I didn't think 6" tubing would be sooo hard to find.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:39 PM
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That's why I went for 8"... Way easier and it fits the name "octoban" better (octo = eight)...
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:53 AM
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i finally found some 6" today...good thing too seeing as i've already spent almost $200 on hardware for them.

p.s. if anybody living near guelph Ont. wants to build some i have 5 extra feet of pipe because they only sold it in 10' sections.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:13 AM
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That's what I love about making your own. They can sound good and look even better and you did just that. I bought the Tamas and they are expensive but I really don't make a whole lotta things hehe. And if I paint them I won't be able to sell them ever. Let's see a video of those please!!
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:49 AM
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@T.Underhill:
I wish I could make recordings but I don't have a decent camera or miking equipment... :(
By the way, great avatar! where do you come up with those?

@Pearl_Floyd:
That's great! What heads are you going to try? If I were you I'd go for pinstripes, or maybe powerstroke 3 (If you're a remo guy). The clear ambassadors have a decay that's just too big for my liking (nothing a little damping couldn't fix though but I don't like adding damping to my heads).
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:21 PM
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I wish I could make recordings but I don't have a decent camera or miking equipment... :(
By the way, great avatar! where do you come up with those?
Well post it when you have it :\ As a member of several forums (this one being the least geeky) I find all kinds of avatars, I don't create any of them. This one was originally a cat jumping out and knocking over the baby.
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Old 09-14-2007, 06:24 PM
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That's great! What heads are you going to try? If I were you I'd go for pinstripes, or maybe powerstroke 3 (If you're a remo guy). The clear ambassadors have a decay that's just too big for my liking (nothing a little damping couldn't fix though but I don't like adding damping to my heads).
i got emperors, but that was before i realized you already tried them and didn't like the sound. so i'll try the emperors and if i don't like them i think I'll take your advice and go pinstripes.

p.s. the pipe i got has an inside diameter of 6" so do u think i'll have a problem fitting the
6" head on?
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:11 PM
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That depends on the thickness of the shell, of course. Do the hoops fit around? If so, the ring that holds the plastic of the head should probably fit around as well. To make changing heads easier you could make the bearing edge like so:



(I hope that makes sense...)

But if the heads don't fit around the outer diameter it might be a problem.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:49 PM
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So if you didn't like the sound of the ambassadors, what would you have preferred? A drier sound with quicker decay? I'm an Evans guy personally, and I'm getting all the pieces in line to put mine together.
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Old 09-29-2007, 03:53 PM
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That's right, a drier sound with quicker decay. The portnoy-sound if you know what I mean. I'm guessing pinstripes or powerstrokes would have been better. Or an evans equivalent to that ;)
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:57 PM
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SOUNDCLIPS!!

They were recorded somewhat primitively... but these soundfiles will give a good impression of how they sound.
Attached Files
File Type: mp3 octoban_high.mp3 (111.2 KB, 801 views)
File Type: mp3 octoban_low.mp3 (111.2 KB, 676 views)
File Type: mp3 octobans_miced.mp3 (208.5 KB, 782 views)
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:26 PM
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Great job Phil! They look awesome with that custom paint job, and they sound great too.
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:32 PM
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I think they sound great! I can definitely hear a little excess ringing, though. Nevertheless, excellent job!!
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:40 PM
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Thanks guys! Those comments make me proud :D
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nice job... they sound pretty good.. probably even better in context.... and they look AMAZING with your set!
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Thanks :D Yeah they sound good along with my set. The high octoban seems to have a similar pitch to my 10" tom, and the low one to the 12" so they combine well in fills.
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Great idea, good execution. I'm surprised they cost so much, however. I guess if you would have done more of the work yourself that would have held costs down.
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Yeah I found out later that it was possible to get Magnum brand octobans for much less than I spent on my custom ones. Kind of defeats the purpose of building your own. Biggest cost went to paint and to the stand (more than 50% of the grand total). The stand is a Pearl T800W. Which is a great stand by the way, extremely sturdy.
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that's great news, do you have a link of a shop that sells those to the Netherlands?
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wow they are so coool. :)
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:51 PM
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that's great news, do you have a link of a shop that sells those to the Netherlands?
Yeah I got them from EIG in Nijmegen, www.eig.nl. But they don't have them anymore...

@Rossco: Thanks. I agree ;) I'm finding more and more ways to accomodate them in my playing.
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I'm always impressed with people who make their own equipment.

Nice job!
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