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Old 07-05-2007, 10:24 PM
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I just got myself a new snare head 13" remo emperor head...i've played for less than an hour and i can already see through the head the coating wearing away like no tommorow. I thought the coating would at least last me a bit longer. I don't even consider myself a "hard hitter"
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:25 PM
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Yeah, it seems like Remo can be sort of hit-or-miss when it comes to their coating. I've had Coated Ambassadors on my toms for a few months now, and they still have a lot of life left in them. But I tried a Powerstroke 3 on my snare and it started coming off right away. With that in mind, my next head change will be Evans. They're supposedly very consistent and I love the sound I'm getting with a G1 on my snare.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:43 AM
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yah it hink i'll try aquarian or evans next too...though i did hear some good thigns about remo fiberskyns...did you have any experience with those heads?
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:52 AM
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I've only had good experience with remo. I put a coated ambassador on my snare, at the same time I put some Aquarian texture coated heads (satin finish) on my toms. My snarehead still lives while my toms have had their best days. And having heard aquarians are known for their durability, I'm the last to crack remo (not speaking of sound, but of durability only!)
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:15 AM
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remo sucks, go with evans.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:01 AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Remo's coating doesn't stack up.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:57 PM
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Definitely Evans. They sound WAY better.
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:01 AM
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I have Evans G2 coated on my toms, power center reverse dot on my snare and EMAD2 clear on my kick.

I'm very pleased with them!

I have them for about 2 months and the coated is still there and living long.

In my opinion remo loose the tone apparently "quicker" than evans, but that is my opinion...so i will go with evans for a long time.
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:39 PM
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About fiberskyns i have never proven them. but i think that are jazz focused.

i only know that they are warm, and dark
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:25 PM
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Try a Remo Reneissance head it has a crisp,dry sound even more then the Evans Genera Dry I personally love the head for a snare drum and i'm just not saying that because it's a Remo head i've played all brands.

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Old 07-12-2007, 07:29 PM
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remo sucks, go with evans.
Wow what an educated post. Give me your reasoning. I bet none of it's valid, especially coming from someone with a name such as BoxcarDrummer182. Go play to your Boxcar Racer/Blink 182 tracks and save the responses to forum posters worth a damn.
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yeah that's why all those pro drummers out there are still using it...
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:03 AM
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I recently ordered three J1 heads for my 13" ludwig piccolo ....only one arrived ... I put it on and was immediately very dissapointed... not what i was expecting at all! I tried to stop the other two from shipping out but was too late...they were already sent... BUMMER!

I don't get it etched? seems so, just barely.... all the advantages of cowhide with none of the problems?

well i don't use cowhide but these thing are just a shade better than trying to work your brushes on a clear uncoated head...

more dollars not well spent.
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Old 07-16-2007, 08:09 PM
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:57 PM
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I haven't been happy at all with Evans heads I've had. I just cant get them to sound right or feel right. I can say that Evans heads are the most consistently made and durable heads though. I tried Aquarian Texture Coated heads on my four toms and snare. These are the ONLY heads I've seen in 10 years of playing to actually start flaking off their coating. I've seen Remo coated heads wear down, turn black, and then have a bare spot but never flake off into white dust all over the place. I recently got Fiberskyns on all my drums and was amazed at the sound. I can say that Remo's durability or quality may not be all that wonderful these days but I prefer the sound and feel compared to Evans. There are exceptions such as Remo Pinstripes which I have seen on various kinds of drums over the years, none of which sounded good at all and Evans g2 Coated heads which I had on my set for 2 years and while they never wore down they were hard to keep tuned, had an attack like paper, and gave weird overtones on the drums. For my maple drums, I prefer coated ambassadors, or Fiberskyns. (clears are fine too but I'm not into the plastic attack thing).
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:40 AM
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Biggest burn ever...Blink sucks
Blink Rocks!!!!

And Remo heads are the best on the market, and forever will be, they offer everything for every player new or old.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:48 AM
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I think all 3 ( Remo, Evans, & Aquarian ) have had their share of bad coating at times. Aquarian seems to be the most service friendly, as you call them and they send you a new head. I've tried all of them recently the last few months and I always come back to Remo Ambassadors. I'm talking about toms and snares. SKII's are awesome on bass drums.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:12 AM
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for a company that spends millions of dollars designing products, and countless hours testing them, i highly doubt that any of them "suck". as many have already stated, its clearly just a matter of the manufacturing process going wrong along the way, no biggie
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:37 AM
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Iron Cobra said it best. I have had all three brands before (Remo, Evans, Aquarian), all three have been great at times, and all three have produced some turds...even within the same model. I have had Remo Emperors just take a dump after two weeks of playing, and I have had some that last for a year. Oh, and all three sometimes have the coating crap out, sometimes they don't.

Really I could care less which brand I play. Aquarian has some interesting models that I am trying right now....it keeps me interested.

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Old 07-17-2007, 04:57 AM
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I've also had a bad first experience with Remo. I recently (or not so recently) popped on my first set of Ambassadors on my kit and the coating went poof in a matter of days (or hours of playing...)

I'll give them another chance, but I'm gonna test out Evans next. And perhaps Aquarian, when I can find a dealer round and about where I live.
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:00 AM
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I recomend you evans Over Aquiarin

you can test Evans first

i think they are the best
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:50 AM
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Here is another one of those Remo (or insert a random brand name here) sucks thread. Yes, Remo has had some problems with the coating prematurely wearing off. They have had a handle on it for quite a few years now, but it is possible for some of the older heads with the bad coating to exist for sale as I don't know that every store clerk has been diligently checking their heads.

The one exception is the coated PS 3. I don't understand why Remo insists on using a clear film for the coating to be applied to. The coated ambassador seems to use an opaque film.



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I used to play Evans power center reverse dot on my snare for years (because of the coating lasting way longer than Remo's) until, during a gig with 2 bands, I realized the snare of the other band's drummer sounded so much louder, more "open" with more crack.
It was the same snare than mine (yamaha maple custom) but with a Remo Ambassador !
Playing Evans for years, I forgot Remo's ambassador sounded so good on snare !
I think Evans drumheads can help bad snare sound better, but if you got a good drum, Remo is the way to go.
Forget about coating, and think about sound !
So, I'm back to Remo Ambassador on my snare !
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:54 PM
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Here is another one of those Remo (or insert a random brand name here) sucks thread. Yes, Remo has had some problems with the coating prematurely wearing off. They have had a handle on it for quite a few years now, but it is possible for some of the older heads with the bad coating to exist for sale as I don't know that every store clerk has been diligently checking their heads.

The one exception is the coated PS 3. I don't understand why Remo insists on using a clear film for the coating to be applied to. The coated ambassador seems to use an opaque film.



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Agreed 100% The new black box, larger Remo logo stock is some of the highest quality from Remo in a long time.

If anyone is buying new Remo heads insist on getting the new black box heads with the larger Remo crown logo. They are fantastic quality.
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:10 PM
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I used to play Evans power center reverse dot on my snare for years (because of the coating lasting way longer than Remo's) until, during a gig with 2 bands, I realized the snare of the other band's drummer sounded so much louder, more "open" with more crack.
It was the same snare than mine (yamaha maple custom) but with a Remo Ambassador !
Playing Evans for years, I forgot Remo's ambassador sounded so good on snare !
I think Evans drumheads can help bad snare sound better, but if you got a good drum, Remo is the way to go.
Forget about coating, and think about sound !
So, I'm back to Remo Ambassador on my snare !
I always refer back to Earl Palmer who didn't care about the coating; he was in it for the sound.


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Old 07-18-2007, 10:13 PM
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remo are amazing heads.....theyre slightly more difficult to tune....but if you can tune a kit then your sorted....and im glad i can...

i sometimes change them for aquarians on my snare...but man i cant put anythin other than remo on my toms...
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Agreed 100% The new black box, larger Remo logo stock is some of the highest quality from Remo in a long time.

If anyone is buying new Remo heads insist on getting the new black box heads with the larger Remo crown logo. They are fantastic quality.
I'm just reading your post. It's ironic that I just ordered some Remo heads specifying the retailer ship current production in the Black & Orange packaging. The date on any White & Orange packaging is 2002. It certainly stands to reason that any coating would deteriorate over a 5 year period. I recently changed my heads using Coated Emperors over Coated Ambassadors. Great sound and no problem with the coating.
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I recently changed my heads using Coated Emperors over Coated Ambassadors. Great sound and no problem with the coating.
im thinking about doing the same, are the ambassadors brighter than the emperors?
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Yes. Here is a link to Remo's web site, and specifically the Coated Ambassador head.

http://www.remo.com/portal/products/...mbassador.html

You should also be able to see a similar chart on the Emperor heads. I'm tuning the Ambassador, (resonant side) a quarter turn more than the Emperors on the batter side.
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:43 AM
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I had to change out a 10" tom head on the fly Saturday night! It didn't gewt the usually break-in opportunity. I did have to retune one time but other than that, the head held its tuning! Remo is really making some good heads these days!


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I had to change out a 10" tom head on the fly Saturday night! It didn't gewt the usually break-in opportunity. I did have to retune one time but other than that, the head held its tuning! Remo is really making some good heads these days!


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Absolutely! Just loving the full tone, nice attack (not overly slappy like Evans), the durability, ease of tuning...it's all there.

They have also introduced some great heads this past year that are for very specific markets but they are as equally great. I'm talking about the Powersonic and the Powerstroke X.

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Old 07-25-2007, 06:34 PM
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which is the best remo reso head?
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There is no best. It's what works for you, your sound, your feel, and durability.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:29 PM
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I just got myself a new snare head 13" remo emperor head...i've played for less than an hour and i can already see through the head the coating wearing away like no tommorow. I thought the coating would at least last me a bit longer. I don't even consider myself a "hard hitter"
Well...that is Remo.
When it comes to coating you need a bunch of luck. I have my Coated Ambassadors on my toms for exactly 10 months and the coating doesn`t wear off, the heads just get dirty.
I also have the Snare drum head but replaced it, felt oily because of the brushes.

And here an example: The old snare drum head still keeps its coating perfectly (It`s on my other snare drum), the new one wears off more...but it`s still cool.

My friend had no luck with his 12" tom coated Ambassador, it had no coating on some spots after a few days.

Overall I am very very impressed with Remo, those coating issues don`t convince me to play Evans or so. It`s the feel and sound of Remo heads: AWESOME. And the dirtier and more played they are the better they sound and feel...at least for the music I make.

In my opinion Remo is a good way to go. Maybe try one more of the same line and see what happens.

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i've actually switched to remo fyberskins...and its been working out pretty well...
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Somebody mentioned the new boxes and the new heads. How can you tell what exactly you'll be getting. I'm especially worried since few places sell Fiberskyns anymore. The last batch I got was the 2002 group. I usually get my drum stuff from Steve Weiss but they do not stock Fiberskyn heads. Where can I order new Fiberskyns?
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Agreed 100% The new black box, larger Remo logo stock is some of the highest quality from Remo in a long time.

If anyone is buying new Remo heads insist on getting the new black box heads with the larger Remo crown logo. They are fantastic quality.
Just to be the devil's advocate.. I picked up a set of emperors, new larger logo and box, not too long ago and thet were honestly the worst Remos I've ever attempted to tune. The 10" had a wrinkle that never went away no matter how it was tuned.

I switched to Aquarian a few weeks ago and first impressions are stellar. Great durability, great tone, they tune up nearly instantly and sound great. The coating seems solid so far.

Obviously this is the most abused piece of equipment for all of us after sticks, so every manufacturer's going to have weird coating issues or fluky heads.. but I haven't really seen anything to indicate a return to the old quality/consistency of Remo in the past.

Or maybe I'm just jilted by a long string of subpar heads and am just done with Remo. :) But a strong vote for Aquarian. Great heads.
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Well I'm caught in the struggle between Evans and Remo again. I think I'll wait and see if I can buy my second kit before I worry about heads. The only Evans heads I like the idea of is just coated G1 and Remo just Coated Ambassadors so it's pretty much even. One question though: Why are Evans Hazy res. heads clear? I had one years ago and it was actually a semi-opaque white thing. Odd that they call them Hazy still, I think the Orchestral versions are still hazy.
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Referring to the OP, why were you using an Emperor on your snare? That would effectively kill the tone.

Anyway, about Remo in general I find that they are the best-sounding heads I've tried. The Aquarian Satin Finish on a snare is a really nice head, but I still think the coated Ambassador is your best bet for definition and sensitivity. For the toms, nothing beats the coated Ambassador. The single-ply heads really bring out the tone and they don't shut the drum down. The Aquarian equivalent (single-play coated) is just horrible. It sounds like a coated Pinstripe.

The coating on the Remo heads does admittedly wear off quickly, but the sound of the head doesn't decline as a result. Of course it looks ugly to have the coating missing from all your heads in a 3-inch diameter circle, but the sound won't suffer.

Every Evans head I've played either kills too much tone or sounds too "plasticy".
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