What's the drummer's version of a guitarist's "Stairway to Heaven"??

delta · #1 04-29-2007, 11:01 PM

Maybe confusing... I'm trying to get opinions on this. Think about it like this, you could go into a guitar store and start playing Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" and you'd get stared at by about every guitarist like "what the hell are you doing". Well maybe not, but that song has been unofficially banned in guitar stores because of the sheer amount of new players learning that song and wanting to showcase their "skills". Remember Waynes World?

Anyway, I was curious to what's the drummer's equivalent? "Fifty Ways to Lead Your Lover" perhaps by Steve Gadd?

figure_02 · #2 04-29-2007, 11:15 PM

You mean like a very famous lick or groove that lots of drummers learn and do different and maybe not so good?

Deffo Rosanna...

driver · #3 04-29-2007, 11:25 PM

Any 13 year old kid doing his best try double bass blast beat!

#4 04-30-2007, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by driver

Any 13 year old kid doing his best try double bass blast beat!

I do believe I'll second that.

DogBreath · #5 04-30-2007, 01:27 AM

I'm gonna say "Wipeout," or possibly "Moby Dick."

jangus · #6 04-30-2007, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DogBreath

I'm gonna say "Wipeout," or possibly "Moby Dick."

Nah, it can't be Moby Dick. Stairway is a song that people that lack talent play to make it look like they know what they're doing. I've never seen a bad drummer try to play Moby Dick. But Wipeout is a good suggestion. However, I'm with the double bass blast beat noise.

hawk9290 · #7 04-30-2007, 02:01 AM

I'd agree- Wipeout and blast beats - ironically I struggle to play either of them because I have very poor wrists and can only get out short bursts of notes at higher speeds (I can play Wipeout double-stroked, but thats not really authentic). But hey, thats why I stick to anything but death metal and wipeout!

Michael G · #8 04-30-2007, 02:03 AM

A simple rock beat snare 2 and 4 bass 1 and 3 etc played as fast as they can with offtime monotonous fills?

Bobhead · #9 04-30-2007, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by delta

Anyway, I was curious to what's the drummer's equivalent? "Fifty Ways to Lead Your Lover" perhaps by Steve Gadd?

Its bad only when they play 50 ways without the using the HH foot, but rather do doubles with the hands, of course, missing the point of what Gadd was inventing. That's when you shake your head.

The songs that non-drummers always ask to hear or try to play themselves, are also very reconizable: Sunday Bloody Sunday and Honky Tonk Woman.

Pretty cool grooves.

drumminjohn · #10 04-30-2007, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DogBreath

I'm gonna say "Wipeout," or possibly "Moby Dick."

Hahahaha definetly wipeout.. I love it when it just falls apart halfway through haha

bballdrummer34 · #11 04-30-2007, 03:02 AM

Its that one James Brown beat, notice on the Clyde Stubblefield site it says "World's most sampled drummer" Its the beat used on "Get on the Good Foot" cept loud, fast, and uneven. You'll know what im talking about when you hear it.

#12 04-30-2007, 12:03 PM

Paradise city, G-N-R

figure_02 · #13 04-30-2007, 12:58 PM

I cant belive why no one else have said Rosanna...It's the most well-known beat in the world..me thinks.

handito · #14 04-30-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobhead

Its bad only when they play 50 ways without the using the HH foot, but rather do doubles with the hands, of course, missing the point of what Gadd was inventing. That's when you shake your head.

The songs that non-drummers always ask to hear or try to play themselves, are also very reconizable: Sunday Bloody Sunday and Honky Tonk Woman.

Pretty cool grooves.

So, what was Steve Gadd "inventing" except for a GREAT groove?

ANIMALBEATS · #15 04-30-2007, 02:16 PM

No, its the triplet of Moby dick. I assure you.

G

#16 04-30-2007, 02:56 PM

I always like to get a good feel for how the bass and snare sound together, so I usually do a measure of "when the levee breaks!" :)

gmrakich · #17 04-30-2007, 03:15 PM

The end of Rock and Roll.........

druid · #18 04-30-2007, 04:28 PM

it definitely was at one time....Tom Sawyer.

Not so much anymore...and much of the time if I go to a guitar center and sit down to play some medium grooves I become quickly annoyed by the kid who sits down bashing fast slow...out of time noise and calls it drumming...and it happens often. Really irritating to hear someone who is simply not listening to themsleves and realizing how bad they are...in a bad way ...not a good way;-)

mikeybbdrummin · #19 04-30-2007, 06:35 PM

I would say someone that is just learning double bass that wants to show how fast they are. They may be fast but they are usually sloppy w/no control and have nothing to offer as a drummer. Or...................Hot For Teacher. .....................VERY recognizable.

intooder · #20 04-30-2007, 09:11 PM

"Smoke on the Water" - I've seen many butcher it.

BellsOfRhymney · #21 04-30-2007, 10:09 PM

Yep, one is definitely "Fifty Ways" ...for what reason I'll never know.

tamadrummer132 · #22 04-30-2007, 10:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alN4-d89lEE

that..?

drflam · #23 05-01-2007, 12:00 AM

In my experience, "wanna be" drummers ALWAYS play this beat.

Except it's really sloppy, and the kicks at the start are always rushed. If they're feeling confident they may even throw in a few out of time open high hats.

fat in the middle · #24 05-01-2007, 12:38 AM

my sharona
the Knack?

how bout 'stairway to heaven'

Class A Drummer · #25 05-01-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by drflam

In my experience, "wanna be" drummers ALWAYS play this beat.

Except it's really sloppy, and the kicks at the start are always rushed. If they're feeling confident they may even throw in a few out of time open high hats.

I agree completley. 100%. Probably one of the top 3 most annoying beats ever.

caprisun3484 · #26 05-01-2007, 03:27 AM

maybe a Blink song or that Longview tom beat

drummerchick435 · #27 05-01-2007, 03:42 AM

drumline or wipeout probably. and probably constant double bass too.

bballdrummer34 · #28 05-01-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by drflam

In my experience, "wanna be" drummers ALWAYS play this beat.

Except it's really sloppy, and the kicks at the start are always rushed. If they're feeling confident they may even throw in a few out of time open high hats.

THATS THE BEAT I WAS TALKIN ABOUT!!!!! It's a james brown beat, check my post earlier

drflam · #29 05-01-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bballdrummer34

THATS THE BEAT I WAS TALKIN ABOUT!!!!! It's a james brown beat, check my post earlier

Ah yeah I get your post now.

I couldn't be bothered using words to explain the beat so I just notated it heh. :)

dale w miller · #30 05-01-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by drflam

In my experience, "wanna be" drummers ALWAYS play this beat.

Except it's really sloppy, and the kicks at the start are always rushed. If they're feeling confident they may even throw in a few out of time open high hats.

THAT's it! I was thinking of that same beat. it's usually done at 155bpm or so too. the Suburban Funk Beat as i like to call it.

Just Drums · #31 05-01-2007, 08:08 PM

Guys....tisk tisk tisk.

It's ONE by Metallica.

=)

Chippy569 · #32 05-01-2007, 09:57 PM

Wipeout was good!

7-nation army by the White Stripes was i think my first "song" i learned.

Diaz · #33 05-01-2007, 09:59 PM

[quote=drflam;306874]In my experience, "wanna be" drummers ALWAYS play this beat.

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Originally Posted by thefeckcampaign

THAT's it! I was thinking of that same beat. it's usually done at 155bpm or so too. the Suburban Funk Beat as i like to call it.

this is completely every drummers YO I PALY DRUMS BEAT OMFGZZZ

delta · #34 05-02-2007, 05:25 AM

My lord... so I know now what absolutely NOT to play when I walk into a drum store.

oddrax · #35 05-02-2007, 05:43 AM

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In my experience, "wanna be" drummers ALWAYS play this beat.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4...rapcraput3.jpg

Except it's really sloppy, and the kicks at the start are always rushed. If they're feeling confident they may even throw in a few out of time open high hats.

hahaha that is true! lol

Ozzy Biz · #36 05-02-2007, 06:22 AM

I'll agree with Groove about "One", but the first song that came to mind for me was "Smells like Teen Spirit". Every 15 year old like to play (or try to play) the beat from the chorus. It usually comes out really messy to. You know the ones; 2 and four back beat with the snare on the 'a' of two and 'e' of three, with an awkward feeling 16th or two on the kick in there somewhere. I hear that one a lot, very rarely played solidly.

Mr. Pasquini · #37 05-02-2007, 05:11 PM

hell, I'm far more impressed when someone sits down and actually plays a 4/4 rock beat (snare on 1 bass on 3) solidly than when someone does a good blast beat. I hate people failing to impress me in Guitar Center.

bballdrummer34 · #38 05-04-2007, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pasquini

hell, I'm far more impressed when someone sits down and actually plays a 4/4 rock beat (snare on 1 bass on 3) solidly than when someone does a good blast beat. I hate people failing to impress me in Guitar Center.

o my gosh guitar center. its hard being in there sometimes

drummer_14_92 · #39 05-04-2007, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by drflam

In my experience, "wanna be" drummers ALWAYS play this beat.

Except it's really sloppy, and the kicks at the start are always rushed. If they're feeling confident they may even throw in a few out of time open high hats.

it could be useful if you start with that and mova a few things around, and about the people who try to impress others at GC they do the same things at my school, some 5th and 6th graderswill put a few hits on the snare and actually brag about their "skills", and they have none at all, I know not everybody will believe me but when i started in 6th grade(im in 9th now) I had enough background to already play a ride cymbal pattern of 16ths and bass on 1 and 3 and snare on 2 and snare eighths on 4, and im not joking i seriously could, and one guy who i was already as good as a few weeks later who has been playing a little longer said i was posing

Mr. Pasquini · #40 05-04-2007, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by drflam

In my experience, "wanna be" drummers ALWAYS play this beat.

Except it's really sloppy, and the kicks at the start are always rushed. If they're feeling confident they may even throw in a few out of time open high hats.

In all truth I like playing that on a kit I'm unfamiliar with just because it's easy to play with. I might be just a wannabe drummer but I find that a common beat like that brings a median between different settings. the difference is I'm in time with it and solid.... + I have my interesting fills and walking bass lines... it's annoying when people play that and believe that they are God.