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Old 06-29-2015, 07:30 PM
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Guys, I have a dilemma.
So my band is recording our first EP thingy, but we ran into a couple of issues.
My guitarist is completely capable of recording guitars and the such in hi-fi, but drums have become a problem. None of us own proper equipment and my e-kit doesn't sound realistic enough.
How blasphemous would it be for me, the drummer, to use a drum machine on the recording?
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:23 PM
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Anything preventing you from running the eKit into a VST?
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It would be extremely blasphemous to use a drum machine just for the sound.
Figure out how to use a vst like Calan mentioned, and do that.

Don't let the flat Earther's bully you into a drum machine.
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You could use both. Do what works best for the song.

I'm primarily a synth/guitar guy, so I don't have a bias either way in regards to drums/percussion.

Connect your ekit's brain into a soundcard via midi, and enter in your playing that way. Then find a good sampler pack for your drum sounds. I like the Abbey Road 60s/70s drums from Native Instruments. They work in a sampler like Kontakt. I believe Native Instruments has a free player.
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Thanks for the replies.
I hadn't even thought about using MIDI and libraries and all that good stuff. Thanks, all I need is a MIDI-USB cable, correct?
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Wait a minute, are you sure you can't record real drums? HOw are you recording stuff in the first place? We'd need to know that. And even if you don't have alot of gear, you can make outstanding recordings with just two mics. I've put a nice overhead mic and a mic in front of the kick drum and gotten great results.

Are you guys recording into computer? Tape? How?

One cool thing Stewart Copeland did with the police, was let the other two guys use a drum machine so they could record, and then he would overdub real drums later. You guys could do that too.
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Wait a minute, are you sure you can't record real drums? HOw are you recording stuff in the first place? We'd need to know that. And even if you don't have alot of gear, you can make outstanding recordings with just two mics. I've put a nice overhead mic and a mic in front of the kick drum and gotten great results.

Are you guys recording into computer? Tape? How?

One cool thing Stewart Copeland did with the police, was let the other two guys use a drum machine so they could record, and then he would overdub real drums later. You guys could do that too.
My guitarist has an AI and an iMac, and I have a USB mic. The USB mic works fine for Youtube, but it doesn't work very well for other things. It might just be because I'm a bad producer, but I don't really want to pay someone to do it.

And we are recording into a computer.
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A drum machine will sound less realistic than you playing your e-kit.

Most drum machine grooves are rigidly quantized, and while you can fudge it a little,
there won't be the nuances that naturally come with playing live - even if that live playing is done on an e-kit.

Sometimes a rigidly quantized feel is what someone's going for. Depends on what kind of stuff you're doing.
If you're recording guitar though, it doesn't sound like you're after a techno type vibe.
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A drum machine will sound less realistic than you playing your e-kit.

Most drum machine grooves are rigidly quantized, and while you can fudge it a little,
there won't be the nuances that naturally come with playing live - even if that live playing is done on an e-kit.

Sometimes a rigidly quantized feel is what someone's going for. Depends on what kind of stuff you're doing.
If you're recording guitar though, it doesn't sound like you're after a techno type vibe.
Nah, we are playing Athiest/Cynic type metal, so...
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Ok, new intentions.
I'm going to use my next paycheck and such to buy a little bit of recording equipment. I am a newbie at this, so don't make fun of me.
What do I need? For example, a 4-mic setup. Obviously, 4 mics, and an AI. Is this all?
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