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Old 01-26-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Remo vs Evans?

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What's the difference between Remo vs Evans?

NOT: which do you prefer...
BUT: what is your experiences about the DIFFERENCES between the two brands (comparing equal heads with the same thickness and coating).

Where I live, Evans is a more expensive head. And I once heard, that Remo has got more tone, which I guess leaves Evans as a more controlled head?

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:55 PM
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Hmm. No respons.

Let me put it this way then: Clear Ambassador vs Evans G1? What's the difference?
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:18 PM
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:38 PM
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lol, thats a bit of a sarcastic response.

Okay i can answer about the 2 companies with all that i know, but not that much experience comparing the heads myself.

Remo use less technology, have simpler designs, and more of a basic approach.
Some say they have better hoop tension and stay in tune longer. However, they dont seem to have as good quality control as evans. Coating wears quite quickly. Heads feel heavier than evans according to some people, but thicknesses are similar.

Evans are more influenced by technology, they have some better designs than remo (e.g. EC2 over pinstripe). Some say they generally have a darker, dryer tone than remo but it mostly depends on the specific head type. Quality control generally better. Longer lasting coating, heads feel slightly less tough (contreversial oppinion :S)

An evans head is normally more expensive than a remo head.

e.g. remo £10, evans £12, or about that ratio.

thats all i know, i dont know if others will agree, but this is just one 14-year old's knowledge!

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Old 01-26-2007, 10:49 PM
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I have found that similar heads from the two companies are not a lot different, but there IS a difference in sound and feel. It is very subtle and hard to describe in words. To me, Remos feel (and sound) a bit livelier, and a bit less boxy than Evans.

I have heard TONS of stuff on the net about Evans being a more durable head, having more durable coating, better quality control, etc. All I can say is that my experiences don't show the Evans heads or coatings to be more durable; in fact, I have found them less durable when comparing the Genera snare drum heads to the coated Ambassador. However, their quality control is very good. I think Remo's quality control problems are perhaps overstated, though - at least, I've not gotten bad heads from Remo. Admittedly, I don't use many two ply heads, and that seems to be what I hear people complain about most. So, who knows.

Hope this helps.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:15 PM
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i have to dissgree with the coating thing! if you rub your hand over a coated ambassador after you have used it for a couple of days it will feel pretty smooth, whereas my evans genera heads still feels rough after a week.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:43 PM
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i have to dissgree with the coating thing! if you rub your hand over a coated ambassador after you have used it for a couple of days it will feel pretty smooth, whereas my evans genera heads still feels rough after a week.
That's why I posted that my experience was different than many! I trust your observations, but I also trust mine. I think we just got different results.

I have two snare drums that I use with my kit, and I've done two side-by-side comparisons, changing heads the at the same time. The Evans heads simply wear faster for me - they also show a deeper "pit" after a given amount of time. Not an overwhelming sample, I know, but enough to convince me.

I think what it all shows is that different users are going to get different results. There is nothing like trying things out for yourself!
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:50 PM
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i did just check my genera, and it has worn smooth now, with a bit of pitting, just because i shared it with other bands at our last gig.

I will have to wait the full life of the head to see what happens.

I agree that different people will have different experiences, i didnt want to sound argumentative, i was just interested to know what circumstances you tested in. Its all part of the learning process :)
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:57 PM
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it may be all in my mind, but i too have my preferences:

toms - evans. Both the G1's and G2's just seem to carry a more projected, deeper tone than the ambassador/emporers. Also, i never have a problem tuning my evans heads -- but i can sometimes wrestle with the remos.

snare - remo. I have tried the G1 and HD dry from evans, but i personally find that nothing compared to a simple coated ambassador. Yes I do agree that the coating does typically wear faster than the evans, but the sound is what matters.

kick - neither. I am a fan of aquarian superkicks (one, two or three). I have tried the others but was not happy.
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:15 AM
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it may be all in my mind, but i too have my preferences:

toms - evans. Both the G1's and G2's just seem to carry a more projected, deeper tone than the ambassador/emporers. Also, i never have a problem tuning my evans heads -- but i can sometimes wrestle with the remos.

snare - remo. I have tried the G1 and HD dry from evans, but i personally find that nothing compared to a simple coated ambassador. Yes I do agree that the coating does typically wear faster than the evans, but the sound is what matters.

kick - neither. I am a fan of aquarian superkicks (one, two or three). I have tried the others but was not happy.
I have to agree on the Aquarian superkicks (as well as the EMAD Evans - most sound engineers give me a bewildered look). I have staunchly used Remo for quite some time now with occassional forays into the other brands. Remo Ambassadors just produce the sound I am looking for right now.

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Well based on my experience....behind the set I found more tone from the evans compared to remos. Though from a bit of a distance the remo's prevailed.

I think people just try around on brands and stuff and they find something that works for them and stick with it.
Theres no magical drum head that works for exactly every application and every drummer out there.

Idk i guess i was gettin a wee bit off topic there.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:03 AM
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i really like the sound and idea of the EC2s and EMAD, and there's not a clear remo equivilant, so its evans for me. im still searching for the right snare head for me though
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:54 AM
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it may be all in my mind, but i too have my preferences:

toms - evans. Both the G1's and G2's just seem to carry a more projected, deeper tone than the ambassador/emporers. Also, i never have a problem tuning my evans heads -- but i can sometimes wrestle with the remos.

snare - remo. I have tried the G1 and HD dry from evans, but i personally find that nothing compared to a simple coated ambassador. Yes I do agree that the coating does typically wear faster than the evans, but the sound is what matters.

kick - neither. I am a fan of aquarian superkicks (one, two or three). I have tried the others but was not happy.
You compare G1/G2 with Ambassador/Emperor... this is one thing I've never understood: What's the diference between Evans G2/Remo Emperor and Evans EC2/Remo Pinstripe?
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Old 01-27-2007, 11:21 AM
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As i have found out from a thread i posted, G2's And Emperors are pretty similar. On the other hand, even though pinstripes and EC2's are both heads for a similar sound, EC2's are much better than pinstripes unless you want you drums to sound really dead.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:29 PM
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:40 PM
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As i have found out from a thread i posted, G2's And Emperors are pretty similar. On the other hand, even though pinstripes and EC2's are both heads for a similar sound, EC2's are much better than pinstripes unless you want you drums to sound really dead.
But what's the diference? EC2, Pinstripe, G2 and Emperors are all 2 ply, so what is the diference between the EC2 and the G2, and the Emperor and pinstripe?
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:48 PM
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Oh, sorry osh!

G2's and emperors are just simply 2 plies of film which aren't glued together in any way.

In Pinstripes, the film is glued together at the edge (from the stripe outwards) to remove overtones.

The EC2's have a silver strip near the edge of the head, stuck to the underside, also to remove overtones.
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:21 PM
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Oh, sorry osh!

G2's and emperors are just simply 2 plies of film which aren't glued together in any way.

In Pinstripes, the film is glued together at the edge (from the stripe outwards) to remove overtones.

The EC2's have a silver strip near the edge of the head, stuck to the underside, also to remove overtones.
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:38 PM
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Us welshies ought to stick together eh? lol
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remo is a great company however evans i feel has always been one step ahead....overall as far as sound goes they about even out remo is great for more tone full sounds and evans is perfect for warm beefy fat tones with quick decay however evans got this edge by making all their heads more durable so in order to have a response to evans success fans and company started admitting that evans were more durable but remo had the better sound so people believe that you have it one way or another and you cant be the best at both but i assure you trying different brands and models of heads on the same sizes drums and with precision tuning evans has turned out the best in every environment/situation
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From my experiences working in a music shop, and selling and using both Remo and Evans heads I would say...

...Evans seem to be more consistent from head to head. If you pulled out 5 clear G1 heads and 5 clear ambassadors and did a tap test, you're probably going to hear 4 out of the 5 Evans heads sound very similar, where a lot of the Remo's will have minor variances. If you're after consistency, and you like Evans sound, no reason to switch. Some people might like the individuality of each Remo head, it all depends.

As for durability, I find them to be quite similar, but I do seem to get a better longevity from Evans heads in the tone department. Remo heads sound seem to have a "sweet period" where they sound their best after being broken in, but then the tone dies quicker. Interestingly enough, D'Addario strings currently own Evans heads and I have heard numerous guitar players say that D'Addario strings sound good longer than any other string. Maybe they use some technology that helps them get the results they want.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:12 PM
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I tried Evans many times and always came back to Remo.
Evans seemed too plasticky and would not seat nicely on the bearing edge at low tension.
Maybe I should give them another try?
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:13 PM
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I tried Evans many times and always came back to Remo.
Evans seemed too plasticky and would not seat nicely on the bearing edge at low tension.
Maybe I should give them another try?
This is my experience with Evans... They sound "thwacky" or plasticky to me as well... I could care less how fast the coating wears off the center of the head - I rarely play with brushes. If there is any actual difference - it would be in the formulation of the mylar used, and the collar design.

I also feel like Evans heads don't do as well as Remo at lower tensions... they always seem dead to me at JAW tunings.

Again - though the OP wants to know what the actual physical differences are - so if anybody knows - please chime in.
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:18 PM
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The difference in tone between clear G1 and cl;ear ambassadors is nil. I could not tell them apart in a blind test. The coating used by each is different so you get a more noticeable difference there..

I have a set of Clear G2's that are not bad. I rarely go the 2 ply route though. From simple tap tests when I made the purchase, the emperors "seemed" to resonate a bit better but the difference was minimal.

As for Pinstripes vs EC1/2, I did not like the sound of them. no high end and rather dead sounding. I have not used the pinstripes since high school band when they were popular on quads. Never used them on a kit.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:26 AM
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I find that Evans G1's sound great as soon as you put them on where Ambassadors take a little breaking in. I like the sound of both and sometimes have a hard time deciding which one to buy. Right now I favor Aquarian Satin Finish for my wood snares but did not care for them on my Black Beauty.
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:36 PM
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Here's what I've found...Remo's coating DOES wear away more quickly, but both heads seem to be equally durable. Evans' heads DO sound great right away without the "break in" period and hold their tone longer. Also, Evans is way ahead of Remo in being innovative and offering very useful options for drummers. However, Remo offers heads in all sizes. For example, I prefer a single ply or two ply head on my 26" bass drum without any pre-muffling, I can get that from Remo but not from Evans. Evans caters to drummers who use 22" kicks or smaller and I wrote them to complain about it. Evans responded within a couple of days and told me that since larger bass drums aren't as popular, they no longer make G1 or G2's in larger sizes...that bothers me to no end. I also used to get buzzing noises from Remo's two ply heads on my toms and that's when I switched to Evans, which does not have the annoying buzz like the Remos did. So, all in all, Evans is the better choice, especially if you prefer the standard kick drum sizes. I'm a little late posting for this, but, maybe this helps. Merry Christmas to all!
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i agree with evans having a more "plasticy" sound. If you take a g2/g1 in your hand and hold it from the mylar between your fingers and shake it you"ll notice that theres a lot more movement going on with the film compared to an emperor/ambassador which have a tighter feel to them. I think the plasticy, flappy sound you get on evans heads is attributed to this "looseness" of the mylar. I Dont know exactly what is giving each manufacturer these characteristics. Maybe its the film...maybe its in the hoop.
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just noticed this thread is really old!
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I have found that similar heads from the two companies are not a lot different, but there IS a difference in sound and feel. It is very subtle and hard to describe in words. To me, Remos feel (and sound) a bit livelier, and a bit less boxy than Evans.

I have heard TONS of stuff on the net about Evans being a more durable head, having more durable coating, better quality control, etc. All I can say is that my experiences don't show the Evans heads or coatings to be more durable; in fact, I have found them less durable when comparing the Genera snare drum heads to the coated Ambassador. However, their quality control is very good. I think Remo's quality control problems are perhaps overstated, though - at least, I've not gotten bad heads from Remo. Admittedly, I don't use many two ply heads, and that seems to be what I hear people complain about most. So, who knows.

Hope this helps.
I've had a lot of use with the two difference companies and this is about exactly how I feel about them. I've never seen an Evans head uncrimp, but I have seen it in a Remo but I much prefer the feel of the remo.
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i really like the sound and idea of the EC2s and EMAD, and there's not a clear remo equivilant, so its evans for me. im still searching for the right snare head for me though
I also like the EC2's and for the snare head I like the evans power center.
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first of all it really depends on what genre you play, how hard you play and what kind of snare response you want to achieve. if you want a more lively sound, to show off the really nice sound of perhaps a wood snare go for the ambassadors, if you don't enjoy overtones very much go with the evans genera HD dry if your snare is overtly ringy (which is usually due to off-tuning, so just tune up the snare properly and see if this helps). if you go through heads like a mofo and hit very hard then you might be interested in a evans hybrid (expensive!) which allows your head to last longer at the same time not giving up to much of your snare's response/attack.

personally, I play technical death metal -- I just like using good ole remo ambassadors, they have so much give and are the least "invasive" head to the snare's natural sound. evans heads tend to mute tones and take away much needed attack (for extreme metal).

I have a pork pie maple snare, and i like a little bit of ring to it for blast beats, and the natural tone of the snare itself, and I dont hit TOO hard so they last me a few months.

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HOLY COW!!! This thread is 4 years old!!! And I'm responding haha!

Evans make great products with great quality, so does Remo.

I've heard people say Remos coating flakes off, but it's not something that happens to any heads I get.

In 35+ years I may have had one or 2 Remo heads pull out of the hoop (one of which was for sure a snare side), and a couple '"dead' Emperors. Any of which were replaced by the shop, no problem, and it was years ago (almost 10, so it really does qualify as "years ago").

For the last million years, I've picked every head before I even take them to the counter, so it never happens now.
The shop always seems to have all good sounding heads ("tap test"), so out of the set, I just pick the ones that sound best together to me.

I'd do that regardless of brand, so it's not a Remo vs. Evans thing, where one is more consistent.
I never buy heads online or at GC.

Personally, I just like the sound of Remo better.
I used to use Evans also, but that was when they had the UNO 58 heads available.

I also like that with Remo I don't have to have a freakin' dampening ring on my bass drum head if I don't want one. Evans barely offer a 26" head--which is what I play, and they ALL have a ring.
Remo offer MOST of their different heads up to 28" (so your whole kit can have a consistent sound)
Evans only had a few models that go past 22 or 24 for a bass drum--but they also have the dampening ring on them.

As for sound differences, on a standard coated or clear 1& 2 ply head, & FOR ME, I find the Evans to have have a slightly more "contained" sound.
Doesn't make them better or worse, it's just a little different, and I like the sound of the Remo offerings more.
Remo also sounds a little drier and crisper, which I also like.

Evans heads are great, and I like the sound of them when other people play them, but when I play, and on my drums, I like the Remo sound better.
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Hmm. No respons.

Let me put it this way then: Clear Ambassador vs Evans G1? What's the difference?
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I've played both Evans and Remo for several years. As far as coating on snare heads, I use a lot of brush work and I don't notice any difference in them loosing coating.

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The shop always seems to have all good sounding heads ("tap test"), so out of the set, I just pick the ones that sound best together to me.
I'm just curious. How do you do a "tap test" on an untensioned head?
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:53 PM
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I tend to find that Remo heads 'feel' a little thinner by comparison (perhaps a thinner coating?) and tune up high better. I like my heads quite old and I tend to keep them on my kits for years - the current crop is at least four years old! I play with Ambassadors all-around (and sometimes a Diplomat on my snares) and always found them to be perfectly consistent and high-quality. Never had a problem with flaking, either.

The only thing I will say against Remo is how quickly the heads get dirty when you play with brushes. That was something I noticed a few months ago when I was helping a friend out with a University recital. After about three hours of rehearsal, my snare head was an interesting shade of grey! Didn't affect the sound too badly though and the head is fine. Evans heads never got that dirty when I used to use them on my snare.

I don't know what it is, but I prefer Remo heads. Evans heads are great and if no Remo heads are available, I'm quite happy to use them. One of my kits uses Evans resonant heads (which really are great) all-around. There's not much between them really - just in my experience, Remo heads respond to my tuning needs a little better.
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I've played both Evans and Remo for several years. As far as coating on snare heads, I use a lot of brush work and I don't notice any difference in them loosing coating.



I'm just curious. How do you do a "tap test" on an untensioned head?
Hold the rim and tap the head and check the tone.

No tone, dead head. Pick a different one.
Works on anything up to an 18" well.

If a 2 ply sounds too flappy, or dull, pick a different one.
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Old 08-20-2011, 05:52 AM
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Old thread, but heres my 2cents.
Remo=best Tone period
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:17 AM
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Old thread, but heres my 2cents.
Remo=best Tone period
Hey... I thought you were using Aquarian super 2 heads and very happy with them? Curious if you had a change of heart?
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:42 AM
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Remo and Evans both use the same film, made by DuPont. I always wondered about that, and Rick (the president of Evans) confirmed it. They do sound different though. If you pinned me down I'd say that Remo is the dryer sounding head, by a small margin.
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If you're using brushes, for me, coating curability goes in this order - Aquarian, Evans, then Remo. I also find Remos lose tone more quickly. Still, that sweet spot period with Remos is alluring.

Recently bought a new Ambassador after not using them on my snare for a fair while. One thing I noticed is the coating seems more even than on the head I bought a couple of years ago that had some very rough patches that were catching on the brushes until being worn down a bit. Have they lifted their game recently or was that a one-off?
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